Why spend $ on a tablet with no SD card like the Fire when there are so many tablets with SD cards?General


Last Updated: 2011-12-21 19:20:13
  1. kennychaffin

    kennychaffin Well-Known Member


    Guess it depends. I think the Amazon infrastructure is more appealing than the B&N infrastructure even if the rooted nook is more open -- would still have to pay for netflix or other services..... your mileage may vary. :)

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  2. Topken

    Topken Well-Known Member

    The fire is far more open then the nook tablet. The bootloader on the nook is locked and theres no kexec exploit which means you wont be able to get anything beyond android 2.3 roms on it. As of right now I am paying attention to both camps becuase I am looking to getting one or the other. I can barely get enough money scraped together for one of these devices let alone trying to buy something that costs twice as much or more. The no sd card and limited space of the fire is a negetive to me as I have at least 6 gigs of books and the are neither nook or kindle books so yeah. Having an sd slot would be a major plus for me.
  3. saxrulez

    saxrulez Active Member

    Content is what is all about for myself and my wife(she will use it far more than I). She reads like nobody's business, and amazon prime is some awesome stuff with the lending. I don't tend to download movies or music. I typically use spotify for music listening. We both have 16gb SD cards on our phones. I've stored almost zero media on it and neither has she.

    If they had one with an SD card, I would buy it. They don't and I probably will never think about it again after I buy it!
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  4. kennychaffin

    kennychaffin Well-Known Member


    Be sure to check out the local (or non-local if you have access or pay the fee) library ebook borrowing as well! It's great!
  5. Whatstreet

    Whatstreet Well-Known Member

    The function of the SD card is replaced by Amazon Cloud. Your music and books can be downloaded at any time from the cloud service included with your KF. This is acceptable to me because I don't use the KF as a mobile device. It stays in the house where I have wifi.

    I started using that Amazon Cloud at its beginning on my Android phone. It works fine if I have a network connection, but sometimes I'm in places that have no cell phone service. Then storage on the phone is nice. But the KF does not fit in my jeans front pocket so I don't carry it around.
  6. saxrulez

    saxrulez Active Member

    I will definitely check that out. It's killing me waiting to buy it. I'm slowly siphoning money out of our bank account so that my wife won't see the purchase on our bank account(we both check it regularly online). I keep pulling out an extra $20 here and there so I can pay cash for it and surprise her on Christmas. :D
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  7. Graves935

    Graves935 Member

    TWO. HUNDRED. DOLLARS. All that needs to be said.
  8. Kmfiremedic111

    Kmfiremedic111 Well-Known Member


    Mine is LIGHTING fast! Faster than my ultra smart phone. I must have good wifi.
  9. kennychaffin

    kennychaffin Well-Known Member

    Definitely faster than the Xoom browser.
  10. jimhanseng

    jimhanseng New Member

    Obviously you don't have a Kindle Fire. I have an iPad2 and HTC EVO 3d and HTC EVO 4G and NONE of them stream video anywhere near as good as the Kindle Fire. AND the best is HuLu High Def. You are in no way limited on the Kindle Fire. I have: HBO GO, MAX GO, Netflix, Dish Remote, YouTube HD, HuLu Plus and more will come. I have iHeart Radio, Pandora, FoxNews Radio...

    What I don't have yet is XM Player. :(

    I am running Go Launcher EX and the Amazon Market. There are no limits. Yes I rooted and did some side loading of apps, but that was within the first day I had the thing. It was the easiest root ever and VooDo OT allows me to temporarily turn un-root so I can stream Amazon Video.

    This is not a replacement for the iPad but a compliment. They are totally different devices. iPad is horrible for content because Apple doesn't play well with others. iPad was released on 4/3/2010 and there is STILL no Flash player. There is no device out there that can come close at all to competing with the Kindle Fire anywhere close to the price range.

    It's only been out a couple weeks and folks are trying to compare it to a device that is working on it's third generation, and a device that costs 2.5 to 5 times as much. Reality is in order here. I like my iPad 2 for apps, but I hate it for reading or streaming and it is too heavy for long term holding. The Kindle Fire is a good size to use as a personal device for long periods of time. They are just different animals. I expect Kindle Fire to eventually sell just as many units as the iPad and yet have little affect on the sales of the iPad.

    You really can't go wrong for $199. This device us going to stand the Android tablet market on it's head.
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  11. grvthang

    grvthang Well-Known Member

    A lot has happened since I wrote that (the day after release, if you look); people have found all kinds of ways around what Amazon intended (myself included), so my statement about it not being good for much else was based on what was known at the time.
    I still believe everything else I wrote still holds - they didn't intend it for geeks; they made it to sell their content. I never compared it to an ipad, and I've always said it's a great deal for $199.
  12. Humpty Dumpty

    Humpty Dumpty Member

    Why did the chicken cross the road?

    Why do people climb Mt Everest?

    Because they can...

    For $200 admission, geeks get the thrill of wringing every last zero and one out of some new device. I don't get it, but then I don't have to.

    What boggles me is the Kindle Fire owners who complain about what it doesn't have, or what it won't do. Really? Didn't Amazon publish an exhaustive list of specifications before releasing the Fire? I thought so. Besides, the geeks will get Fire to do things Amazon never planned for it, and that is the really good part of geekiness we all appreciate so much.
  13. BigCiX

    BigCiX Well-Known Member

    8 gigs for $199 for my 6 year old daughter who watches videos on nickjr and disney is a great value.
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  14. Bob Maxey

    Bob Maxey Well-Known Member

    The Awesome part requires that you spend more money. You get what you pay for, even in the tech world. The tiny screen is a deal killer for me.
  15. Bob Maxey

    Bob Maxey Well-Known Member

    I am sure Amazon did publish a features list. But I know that many people see what they want to see. The features list means very little to many people that simply assume what they are buying will work for them.

    Consider the lack of the Android Market. Some (like me) assumed that ALL Android devices have AM access. We are beat to death daily with phone commercials talking about AM access and the vast numbers of Apps. Amazon makes it a point in their product page to tell us the Fire can hold 80 Apps. It does not say no AM access until you start digging.

    We all assume things and sometimes we make mistakes.

    We need about a year to digest the sales figures. It cannot compete with Apple and the iPad, but it is an OK device for many people. I suspect people purchase the KF because they cannot afford the iPad; they would purchase an iPad if the price was lower.

    I do wonder what will happen if Apple were to release a two hundred dollar iPad that was about the same size as the Fire.
  16. kennychaffin

    kennychaffin Well-Known Member


    This may be true, but it is also certainly the status quo for any new product. It's become imperitive and on the shoulders of the consumer to figure out what they are NOT SAYING.
  17. Bob Maxey

    Bob Maxey Well-Known Member

    Were you aware that the Flash debate is no more? Adobe recently announced that they have halted all mobile flash development so in the not too distant future, Android will not have Flash. At least no future mobile implementations of Flash. The big push is to HTML 5. That said, I can display Flash on my iPad 1.

    Even Microsoft Windows 8 will not easily support Flash. Flash is dying.

    You are correct about competition. The KF represents a good value for a few hundred dollars. But in my view, that is misleading. Good value for the price does not mean better. Quality costs money and Amazon's device is made to serve paid stuff to users as cheaply as possible. Some of us are not tied to Apple because we jailbreak.

    Not sure if the KF will set the planet on fire or if sales will approach the iPad. One thing I know about Apple is they have a way of changing the game. Like I say, if Apple released a 7-inch iPad at two hundred dollars, the KF might not sell as well.
  18. kennychaffin

    kennychaffin Well-Known Member


    Maybe, but I still would never buy (or even freely enter) into an Apple controlled ecosystem.
  19. Bob Maxey

    Bob Maxey Well-Known Member

    But aren't you there already? It can be hard to use an Android phone unless you play with Google. I can avoid everything Apple with my iPad.

    Granted, I am jailbroken, but that process is easier than Rooting an Android phone in many cases.

    We are all tied to someone or something. And being tied to Apple is not a big issue for most users; it is often a silly complaint without merit. The iPad is well protected from problems unlike Android devices. Impossible to brick my device. This is doe to Apple's control.
  20. kennychaffin

    kennychaffin Well-Known Member

    The devil is in the details. There are significant differences.
  21. Bob Maxey

    Bob Maxey Well-Known Member

    For instance? And yes, there are differences. Are you referring to differences between rooting and jailbreaking?
  22. kennychaffin

    kennychaffin Well-Known Member

    No. But I'm not going there. You probably know exactly what I mean.
  23. Bob Maxey

    Bob Maxey Well-Known Member

    Why not go there? If I do not know what you mean, how the heck can I respond?

    That said, let me assume this: perhaps you are talking about Apple's closed nature and dislike for jailbreakers and Android's open nature that allows for more customization out of the box, with no need to root?

    Clarify.
  24. kennychaffin

    kennychaffin Well-Known Member

    Nope. I'll just say again what I said:

    I still would never buy (or even freely enter) into an Apple controlled ecosystem.
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  25. Bob Maxey

    Bob Maxey Well-Known Member

    Well then, it has been nice talking with you. Sortta.

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