Would this work? building computer


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    Sainix Well-Known Member This Topic's Starter

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    EDIT: Wanting to build my first computer for gaming. Mostly for wow and rts/fps games

    First time building, did some research.
     

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    bikeandestroyx Well-Known Member

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    Avoid tiger direct!!!! trust me, they take forever to ship have horrible support and RMA.
    But those all would work correctly!
     
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    Sainix Well-Known Member This Topic's Starter

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    Thank you for the reply =]!
    What site would recommend to use that is cheap and fast. only was using it cause i did not know of any good ones and Sli website suggested it.
     
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    Newegg.com

    John
     
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    I only use NewEgg I bought something from TigerDirect one time, they sent me the wrong SD cards, took a while to get it fixed which regarded in me just getting a refund.
     
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    Yepp newegg is the way to go. They might be a little more expensive than tiger direct but its worth it if anything goes bad. I would keep an eye on their sell shocker deals.
     
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    unless you want to practice building PC's, then okay, I can understand that.

    IMO, building your own PC is not worth it. I used to do it a lot and after seeing some of the prices online, you can get a cusotm built PC for around the same price as if you were to build it yourself. It might come out a bit more but I'd rather save myself the hassle of building it and then troubleshooting it. I'd rather spend that extra cash on having someone else do it.

    this is all, of course, in my own opinion. I'm sure most of you will disagree. I respect that, though.
     
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    No way. You save a decent amount of money by building your own rig. The rig I plan on building next year is only gonna run me somewhere around $800. The closest thing I can get to it will most likely cost me upwards of $1K. During these rough economic times, better to save a few dollars than spend where it's not necessary.
     
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    Sainix Well-Known Member This Topic's Starter

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    Building it because ive always wanted to build one myself and i need the exp.

    Yea ive been checking out newegg an a lot of the stuff is actually cheaper priced just some where the same or a tiny more so no biggy to me.

    any more feed back or info would be great, does the rig look pretty good. wanted a sli ready comp for gaming/graphics.
     
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    Sainix Well-Known Member This Topic's Starter

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    Should i get a full size atx rather then a mid size for Sli cards?

    And how many fans do you think i need, is temp gauge necessary?
     
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    If you're worried about temperatures i'd go amd for the processor and graphics card as they use less electricity and run cooler. Also most are better value overall. However, the case has enough fans, if you really are worried about temperatures you can add on a bigger heatsink and fan. Just a suggestion though. Also that mid size looks to be good enough.
     
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    it'll work i guess...the cpu and gpu are way to weak to play any sort of modern game with decent settings and fps...the 750w psu is overboard for that rig given.....i dont trust ultra as far as psu's though. what is your price range?
     
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    You can play crysis on a pentium 4, it's not really the cpu that matters too much on frame rates, it's mostly all gpu. But yeah, the cpu and gpu could be better, the 750w powersupply is overkill, and I actually have a good experience with those psus.
     
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    Sainix Well-Known Member This Topic's Starter

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    Oh i didnt know that i thought that amd ran hotter for some reason. ty for that info.

    My price range is just like 600 maybe 650 but i dont mind going over a lil imma just buy each part lil by lil.

    What is a good amd processor and mobo that have xfire

    what should i be looking for in a processor and mobo for gaming?

    Would a 550w psu be fine?
     
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    What is it that you will be using the computer for?

    If you're looking for value here's a list that ranks them according to value for the cpu. I'd recommend going for the amd phenom II x4 (940) or x6 (1055). The thing with amd though is their more for value than performance. Like the highest end amd processor doesn't touch the highest end intel, but in terms of price and power usage amd really does excel!

    As for gpus recent amd graphics card are pretty good in the value, and heat department too. You might try the 6800 series line (specifically the 6850) or even the 5700 series depending on how great of FPS you want in games. Also if you're going to be running two graphics card you'd probably want somewhere around 650+ watts. But that depends on the components you go for. Better to be safe though.

    I recently build a friend a computer with an amd 6850 card in it ($180) and an amd phenom ii x6 processor and it's fast for a great value. The tower part of it was around 800 and then I threw in a monitor, gaming keyboard/mouse from razor, speakers, headset, and a tv tuner card. http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos...855569710_100001151887665_224020_733955_n.jpg
    which brought the price with shipping and handling and tax and everything to $1080.

    Now as for a good crossfire motherboard it depends on the cpu you are going for. Also i'm not sure how the crossfire portion works but it might need to be both amd or both nvidia graphics card. I'm really not sure of this. However, you can get a motherboard that supports crossfire and pair it with the onboard gpu if it has one that supports it.

    Also on another note, the processor you have on that list you could get a better processor from amd at a cheaper price. When going on the lower end of things where you care about value, I really would give amd a shot. Unless you want top of the line performance where money isn't a factor where you'd probably go for an i7 then i'd go with amd.
     
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    One of the latest 95W quads would be a good choice imho; few games make use of four cores let alone six. Any of the major brands offer suitable choices for the motherboard.... look for the 890FX chipset, quality components and good power regulation over 'bling'.

    I'd suggest against XFire to begin with. By all means choose a mobo with the capability for the future, but in all honesty even AMD's mid-range GPUs will cope with anything you throw at them right now without breaking sweat.

    Don't overlook the CPU cooling - the stock HSFs become noisy when running at speed. I'd suggest budgeting for a good heatpipe cooler and quality fan(s).

    If it's a quality PSU then yes. The trouble is that many don't deliver the rated power under all circumstances. For that reason I'd strongly suggest buying the likes of Corsair, Antec, Enermax etc. The entire system depends on the PSU, so any weakness here can have fatal consequences down the line. Like motherboards, good power regulation in PSUs isn't glamourous but it ensures reliability.
     
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    Sainix Well-Known Member This Topic's Starter

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    Making this for gaming want to run on at lest medium or high. would like to run ultra with no lag but im thinking that might be a lot

    mostly wow, sc2, some fps games and other rts.

    Is Sli/xfire worth doing?
     
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    From Newegg.com

    Newegg.com - ASUS Black 24X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 12X DVD+R DL 24X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 12X DVD-RAM 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM 2MB Cache SATA 24X DVD Burner - Bulk - CD / DVD Burners


    Newegg.com - Antec TWO HUNDRED S Black ATX Mid Tower Computer Case


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    Newegg.com - ASUS M4N98TD EVO AM3 NVIDIA nForce 980a SLI ATX AMD Motherboard

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    Newegg.com - Antec EarthWatts EA650 650W Continuous Power ATX12V Ver.2.2 / EPS12V version 2.91 SLI Certified CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC "compatible with Core i7/Core i5" Power Supply


    Newegg.com - OCZ AMD Black Edition 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model OCZ3BE1600C8LV4GK

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    Newegg.com - ARCTIC COOLING ACALP64 Pro 92mm CPU Cooler


    Subtotal: $707.91


    shipping???

    if i were to build a gaming rig with close to that price range right now this is the exact rig i would build. if there's one thing i've learned over the years is never go with cheap brand's...always bites you in the ass later.

    to get to your 650 range you could buy a mobo with only 1 pcie x16 depends on what you plan on doing in the future and that would drop 40-50 bucks(ASUS or Gigabyte) you could also drop to a 640gb hdd i think that would drop another 20-30 i think. but thats about all i would bend on if it were me. gl

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    looking it over i would probably lean towards the cheaper board it looks like nvidia is behind time's on the north bridge as far as sata 6gb and usb3....

    and to answer your question i'm a pretty hardcore gamer myself and a single card solution has always been good enough for me. it seems by the time it would be worth getting a second card to play my games it's not worth dumping money on the old tech. the last upgrade would have been useless for me to have 2x dx10.1 cards vs 1x dx11 card for example. .02
     
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    Took a look and really like the setup an the price is not bad
     
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    ive been wanting to build a computer for a while, but i think ill take computer repair at my school first. nice tower case btw
     
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    Sainix Well-Known Member This Topic's Starter

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    I think WoW and those games are more Cpu based rather then gpu, so what kind of cpu would be great for gaming? and im still wondering about the Xfire/sli
     
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    here's the mobo i'd go with:

    Newegg.com - ASUS M4A87TD/USB3 AM3 AMD 870 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 AMD Motherboard

    just realized that cpu is am2+...so i'd probably go with something like:

    Newegg.com - AMD Phenom II X4 945 Deneb 3.0GHz 4 x 512KB L2 Cache 6MB L3 Cache Socket AM3 125W Quad-Core Processor HDX945FBGIBOX

    or if you do wanna go over budget:

    Newegg.com - AMD Phenom II X6 1055T Thuban 2.8GHz 6 x 512KB L2 Cache 6MB L3 Cache Socket AM3 125W Six-Core Desktop Processor HDT55TFBGRBOX

    or

    Newegg.com - AMD Phenom II X6 1075T Thuban 3.0GHz 6 x 512KB L2 Cache 6MB L3 Cache Socket AM3 125W Six-Core Desktop Processor HDT75TFBGRBOX


    and it depends on the game. some are more cpu intense than others and the cpu does make a dif as far as your fps goes. as far as sli or xfire it really depends on you. spend some time on anandtech.com or tomshardware.com


    oh yeah and i was gonna add newegg.com and some other hardware sites do have black friday sales. so i would wait a week and see what goes on sale comfy from your home on the cursed day...
     
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    Sainix Well-Known Member This Topic's Starter

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    Im thinking of just going with a x4 because most games are not going to make use of the other cores.

    what is it on the cpu i should be looking for in gaming is it the ghz the cache ??

    ill check out those sites and read up ty

    Yep waiting till blackfriday/cyber monday
     
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    they can both make a difference. i would say look for the strongest cpu for the price really. tbh you could get away with a dual core but more and more games are being optimized for more cores. ghz does make a dif but it really depends on the game.

    AMD's Fall Refresh: New Phenom II and Athlon II CPUs Balance Price and Performance - AnandTech :: Your Source for Hardware Analysis and News

    if you look at the chart the slower clocked x6 beats the faster clocked 970 in some games..loses to it in others. but these comparisons are at lower resolutions :/
     
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    Sainix Well-Known Member This Topic's Starter

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    Thank you for that chart =]
     

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