Would you purchase again?General

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  1. Stuntman

    Stuntman Well-Known Member

    I tried both the iPad 2 and Eee Pad before finally deciding on the Eee Pad. I liked the iPad 2 a bit more because some of the gestures are more intuitive to me than on the Eee Pad.

    For instance, if you pinch zoom on a video, it goes full screen on the iPad which is what I want to do when zooming a video. On Android, it just zooms as much as you spread your finger. To go full screen, I have to tap that tiny button on the corner of the video. That button is designed for mouse input and not touch input.

    Another example is the mouse over gesture. On the iPad, you just tap on the object that has a mouse over capability and it shows the mouse over action. Anyone know how to do a mouse over action on Android? It took me over a year before I finally found out here on these forums. You tap and hold, but before the long tap action occurs, you swipe your finger away. It does the mouse over and the side effect is that the screen scrolls.

    The reason I got the Eee Pad was for the keyboard dock. The Eee Pad by itself is not as good as the iPad by itself. The Eee Pad with the keyboard dock is better than the iPad with any keyboard attachment.

  2. carhauler1969

    carhauler1969 Well-Known Member

    Another rezounding YES!!! :D Absolutely, I love my TF, combined with the keyboard dock it will replace my laptop. Battery life is amazing compared to a laptop, + it's Android so it's infinitely customizable, & tweakable. And yes my TF is rooted, as are all of my Android devices. ;)
  3. firstfan

    firstfan New Member

    for me it's absolutely YES.
  4. turbohobbit

    turbohobbit Well-Known Member

    I don't know. I think so, yes, although there are some minor annoyances with the Transformer. The lack of support the dock has for a number of different USB devices for example (such as mobile internet dongles) although I think this is Android rather than Asus? I'm also finding that when I type on the dock keyboard there is a fairly significnt time lag between hitting the keys and seeing them on screen.

    That said, it certainly does everything the iPad does - more in fact - and the dock is a real bonus. The other option for me would be a netbook and a Kindle so I guess I'm in a fairly happy place really.
  5. volcanicstrad37

    volcanicstrad37 Active Member

    For sure. Even with the Prime out and the 700 waiting I would buy again. Nothing is taking advantage of the Tegra 3 yet and probably wont be noticeable in apps for a while
  6. NexusTootsie

    NexusTootsie Well-Known Member

    I got a Gnex around the same time as I got this tablet. I considered my needs rather modest, but I'm finding there are different and endless uses for each so I'm only just easing into using one for one thing, one for another and both for quite a lot. The larger format of the tablet allows for image and video, the smaller of the phne, simple convenience and portability. Both are incredibly powerful.

    I haven't tried the GPS which I've read might be a little bit dicey, but to be hnest, I haven't found any issues insurmountable.

    I love the tablet for drawing, graphics, for reading full sized, for music and I'm only just gearing up to ramp the memory for serious music storage and videos. These devices are amazing! I was indifferent to all of this for the longest time.....we only had the barest of cell phones or any interest in them. Now I'm a believer.
  7. mihaelb

    mihaelb Well-Known Member

    I'm gonna have to go with a YES as well :)
  8. NexusTootsie

    NexusTootsie Well-Known Member

    ME TOO! We waited for hours. I've always wanted to do that... a black friday thing and now it's done and you couldn't pay me to do it again unless..............it was as good as this because it was so totally worth it. What a tablet. I LOVE it love it love!!!
  9. Treknologist

    Treknologist Well-Known Member

    I would buy it again without hesitation. It is an amazing tablet and the keyboard dock just makes it even better.
  10. kcarter3

    kcarter3 Active Member

    i have had a dell streak 7....sold it! didn't like. Samsung galaxy 7 liked but gave to son. I love my transformer.
  11. SamuraiBigEd

    SamuraiBigEd Under paid Sasquatch! Moderator

    I would buy another no problem, but the Prime is where my next purchase will likely go.
  12. vosg

    vosg Well-Known Member

    My YES turns into a big NO. My next tablet will not be from Asus. My TF was working perfectly with Honeycomb, but the ICS downgrade has completely messed it up.
  13. fldude99

    fldude99 Well-Known Member

    I second that. The lack of acknowledgement by Asus that there is a widespread problem has soured me. I was even thinking of the Asus ultrabook, but no longer.
  14. vosg

    vosg Well-Known Member

    I was thinking of getting the Prime. Will be looking at the other quad core tablets instead.
  15. AArs1

    AArs1 Member

    I agree. I was an enthusiatic customer of Asus and I was extremely satisfied with the Transformer, that is until what I saw with the Prime (BT and GPS still not working for many and their fix was to remove GPS from the spec list) and what happened to my Transformer after the ICS update.

    They mean well, no doubt, and they want to differentiate themselves with timely updates. But they have no clue about software testing and they want to use their customers who have paid upwards of $400 for their shiny things to do the beta testing for them. :( And they do not acknowledge the problem and do not bother assuring their customers that they are working on it with an expected fix date. Because I believe they themselves have no clue about the root cause.

    What they need to do is to fire their Android software development team and hire a few independent modders from xda. These guys do a fantastic job without full access to kernels and drivers and without compensation and how incompetent the Asus team has to be to not even do the same.

    However, I would never buy iAnything, their walled garden is not for me.
  16. carhauler1969

    carhauler1969 Well-Known Member

    As with any new software release from any manufacturer there are always "bugs" that creep up simply because the software developers, & hardware manufacturers cannot predict how we the end users will utilize these devices with all of our apps, games, etc, etc. Some of which will create unforseen problems with this new software, it's inevitable. Look at Microsoft, when was the last time they released a version of Windows that wasn't laden with bugs & glitches? Apple? Dell? IBM? HP? Acer? Samsung?
    Why would you expect Asus to be any different?
    The first official ICS release for the TF wasn't bad, a few minor glitches really. Face unlock disabled by Asus was a mistake, imo. I have not tried the latest official release, but my TF is rooted & running the CM9 Kang + Onskreen Cornerstone build, which for me has been amazingly stable, & other than the known bugs which cannot be fixed until the kernel source is released I've had no problems with it at all.
    To say that you wouldn't purchase again due to software, or even some hardware issues is crazy. If you bought a car that broke down, would you never buy another car? Tablet pc's are really still in their infancy, they will get better with time, the way everything else does.
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  17. vosg

    vosg Well-Known Member

    If I was to buy a car, and the manufacturer replaced my engine with one that stalled every few kilometers, and did not offer a roll back, then indeed I would never buy a car from them ever again.

    The Asus issues with ICS are non-existant on other tablets like the Xoom, to name just one.
  18. AArs1

    AArs1 Member

    Probably a tablet that doesn't reboot itself and freeze three times a day. I could not understand the low expectations that many of you have for something you have paid a lot of money for. Why? This is as bad as what I see with iFans.
  19. AArs1

    AArs1 Member

    From the same company? You bet, I wouldn't. And they would be lucky if I didn't sue their asses.
  20. carhauler1969

    carhauler1969 Well-Known Member

    I have no issues with mine on ICS, just saying.

    I actually have very high expectations for all five of my rooted android devices, especially the TF, which is why they are all rooted. If your TF is freezing & rebooting 3+ times a day it's more than likely a setup issue, or an app causing the problem, not an Asus problem, but a user created problem. 99% of issues like that are user created, not pointing fingers, but it's a fact. Most likely an app you have installed that's not ICS compatible yet.

  21. vosg

    vosg Well-Known Member

    The problems also occur on Transformers that have only the stock apps installed.
  22. carhauler1969

    carhauler1969 Well-Known Member

    Could be, but it's still very early in the implementation of ICS, they'll get it sorted out I'm sure. I've not had any of those issues on mine, even when I was running the stock ICS software. The only reboots I've ever had were caused by me playing with voltages while over clocking.
  23. caravaggio

    caravaggio Well-Known Member

    Interesting mix of replies.

    Being an android forum, a majority of people here have obviously invested in a TF, and no one wants to admit they may have made a mistake. Those who did are, like me, lo-tech guys who don't want to have to continuously deal with technical problems; they want a device that works, that plays their movies, plays their music, provides them with reliable word processing, spreadsheets etc.. and doesn't keep doing mysterious things. I suspect those who reply with a resounding "yes" are techies who can work round these things if they go wrong, indeed even get pleasure out of that very process.

    My feeling is that the TF is still in its infancy and needs a lot more polishing before it will satisfy non-geeks like me.

    For example, I downloaded an app called Audiobooks Free, which worked well. Then I accepted some kind of minor firmware upgrade and ever since that the app has never worked. I don't know how to make it work. As a former Macbook user, I never had such problems.

    Three months ago, I decided it was time to get some kind of portable tablet/ipad and impulsively purchased a TF101. It seemed an impressive machine and, unlike the iPad, it had a removable keyboard dock with USB inputs and extra battery life. Now, I'm not a stupid person, but I have gradually discovered that living with the TF101 is a continuous battle with tech problems. Even the browser doesn't allow you to sort bookmarks in any sensible order. Only a question to this forum provided the amswer - which was to download an app which would do that. This forum, by the way, is a fantastic community of people helping each other. But it never seems to end and I don't want to have to spend so much time seeking solutions based on the generosity of other TF users. Why doesn't Asus provide real support for those who bought their products? Why should we have to depend on the benevolence of a forum of users (even though it is good and has saved me on several occasions from throwing my TF into the bin)?

    Now I have the frustration of reading about all those who have upgraded to Ice Cream Sandwich and are raving about it - while my device still says "there are currently no upgrades available for this device." If there is an upgrade it should be available to all.

    One thing I did find out. I used my TF for a month recently in the UK and could watch live TV from any channel using an app called Myplayer ( or BBC iPlayer). A friend who had an iPad couldn't do that. I gather it's something to do with Apple not supporting Flash player. But now I'm back in Asia, none of these apps work anyway because my ISIP is detected as being outside of the UK.

    So, on balance, for people like me who want a device for what it can do - and not for what it might do if you tweak it in some way - I am seriously considering going back to Apple. The iPad looks very attractive.

    Interested to hear if others have experienced similar frustrations - or is it only tech-savvy people who buy TFs?
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  24. AArs1

    AArs1 Member

    I have 6 android devices. HTC Aria (Rooted), Inspire, Atrix, rooted Nook Color on CM7.1, HTC Flyer and the TF (not to mention Logitech Revue) . I have no apps installed except the Gapps. All the setting are default except the live wallpaper that came with the tablet. I do know what I am doing. If the problem is user created for a significant percentage of customers that did not root the device and did not install non-market apps then it is NOT user created. Xoom on 4.0.3 does not have any of these issues.

    This is exactly the attitude that tells me NEVER to buy Asus again.

    That explains it.
  25. vosg

    vosg Well-Known Member

    Of course I also hope Asus gets these issues sorted out. Their first post-ICS patch regretfully didn't.

    I always wondered why Asus waited so long before releasing ICS for the transformer. I thought they wanted to be absolutely sure it was solid. It must have been for another reason...

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