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Old August 11th, 2012, 08:56 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Question Dear ADF - I could use some help rooting my HTC TB

So first off, I'm very new to rooting android Devices, but I am not new to the term "rooting" as I know that
Android is a derivative of Linux - and to gain "root" access is to gain administrative control over your device/utility/whatever you're working with.

So here's a few reasons as to why I want to root my device and a few of my worries about doing so - a list of "why I want to" and "what's keeping me from doing so".

Why I WANT to root my HTC Thunderbolt
  1. I'd like to be able to use my phone to it's full potential
  2. I've noticed HTC hasn't been doing much development for the Thunderbolt and I don't want to have to keep up with a new device when mine is perfectly fine.
  3. Bloatware is a pain.

What's keeping me away from rooting my HTC Thunderbolt
  1. Bricking it beyond repair
  2. Malicious applications gaining root access to my phone and accessing my personal data along with phone data
  3. not being able to revert back to stock - aka unroot.

Here's what my phone is running so far as version of Android and HTC information:
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Android Version: 2.3.4
HTC Sense Version: 2.1
Software Number: 2.11.605.19 710RD
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1) Bricking your phone beyond repair is HIGHLY unlikely.
2) malicious apps cannot gain root access without you accepting a superuser popup
3) you can unroot easily.

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Is your tool compatible with Ubuntu?
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Question A few questions/please help about/with Rooting my Stock TB

Hey folks,

So I'm looking to root my Stock Thunderbolt for the first time, and I was curious if I could get some help with it. I run Ubuntu (Linux) so if there's a way to root through Ubuntu or any tools I can use through Ubuntu that'd be really nice.

Also - a few questions I have:
  1. How would I make/revert back to a Stock Rom if I wanted to?
  2. What are the ramifications of running an OTA update on a Rooted device?
  3. Are there any noob friendly tools that/instructions for rooting the HTC TB through Ubuntu?

Here's what my phone is running so far as version of Android and HTC information:
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Android Version: 2.3.4
HTC Sense Version: 2.1
Software Number: 2.11.605.19 710RD
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#2 usually goes badly
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So how would I root my phone using Ubuntu? Also my phone is running 2.11.605.19. I heard there's not much of a way to be root it when it reaches that update.
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So would you be able to help me with doing this another way? I'm using the latest OTA update for my TB, will your device work through a Virtualbox on a 32 bit box.
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#2 usually goes badly
I could use some help rooting my Thunderbolt through Ubuntu - Im on the latest OTA update - is this a problem?
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Hey folks,

So I'm looking to root my Stock Thunderbolt for the first time, and I was curious if I could get some help with it. I run Ubuntu (Linux) so if there's a way to root through Ubuntu or any tools I can use through Ubuntu that'd be really nice.

Also - a few questions I have:
  1. How would I make/revert back to a Stock Rom if I wanted to?
  2. What are the ramifications of running an OTA update on a Rooted device?
  3. Are there any noob friendly tools that/instructions for rooting the HTC TB through Ubuntu?

Here's what my phone is running so far as version of Android and HTC information:
1)make a backup with a custom recovery. then restore it
2)ramifications are anything from a recoverable bootloop to a non-recoverable brick
3)you might check out http://androidforums.com/thunderbolt-all-things-root/563593-all-one-htc-thunderbolt-tool.html
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So would you be able to help me with doing this another way? I'm using the latest OTA update for my TB, will your device work through a Virtualbox on a 32 bit box.
why dont you just borrow a windows laptop,or go to a friends house and use their desktop? the tools and drivers are small downloads,and very unintrusive,and the process is quick. 20-30 minutes tops to use manual methods or trter's tool to:
-temp root .19
-run revolutionary/install recovery
-flash root files in recovery

failing that,do you have the sdk setup on your PC? there is a linux download for the revolutionary tool,and the adb commands to manually run fre3vo are very basic and straightforward. you can find them in the OP of Thunderbolt Root/Unroot Thread
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why dont you just borrow a windows laptop,or go to a friends house and use their desktop? the tools and drivers are small downloads,and very unintrusive,and the process is quick. 20-30 minutes tops to use manual methods or trter's tool to:
-temp root .19
-run revolutionary/install recovery
-flash root files in recovery

failing that,do you have the sdk setup on your PC? there is a linux download for the revolutionary tool,and the adb commands to manually run fre3vo are very basic and straightforward. you can find them in the OP of Thunderbolt Root/Unroot Thread
Does trters tool work on 32 bit or just 64 bit? and when I use it, what do I do exactly? do I just basically let it run? I do have the SDK on my computer and know how to use it somewhat.
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What are the instructions to rooting with your phone using the latest OTA update - the 2.11.605.19 710RD update - how would I perform this on a Windows computer? the Temp root then full root? does your device do it automatically? or do I need to do extra?
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What are the instructions to rooting with your phone using the latest OTA update - the 2.11.605.19 710RD update - how would I perform this on a Windows computer?
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I read that thread, but I don't understand what exactly I need to do. I heard that I need to downgrade..?
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My tool will presumably work on 32 bit. I haven't tried.

It will root any version and no Need to temp root its part of the process
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My tool will presumably work on 32 bit. I haven't tried.

It will root any version and no Need to temp root its part of the process
So basically, just make sure I don't have HTC Sync installed - disable firewall, No EasyTether or Doubletwist - keep my phone in Dev mode with Stay Awake - so then what's the process afterwards?

What do I do first? it shows me 1,2,3,4, - do I just type in any of those?
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Yep that's all you need to do
Choose option 1

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And the rest just does it? Because I'm not sure what to do afterwards or would I need to do anything afterwards? there are instructions in the readme correct?
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And the rest just does it? Because I'm not sure what to do afterwards or would I need to do anything afterwards? there are instructions in the readme correct?
Yep you don't need to do anything that it doesn't walk you through
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Yep you don't need to do anything that it doesn't walk you through
So - does this also disable OTA updates? and if I wanted to flash a new rom - say the CM7 TB JellyBean rom that just got released - would I need to do something special?

I've been reading through these threads: Thunderbolt Root/Unroot Thread and been sort of confused on what to do. Some say I need to go through Revolutionary, some say I need to use the adb - I'm a total noob at this and just want to get familiar with how to do all of this.
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Yep it does in the rooting process
To install the rom you just follow normal procedures

Those threads are old and need un stickied IMHO
EDIT: Not talking about Scottys. I mean ones that are for older software like ones on other forums
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what would be the normal procedures?
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Wipe data, cache, etc then install
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Sounds harder than I thought - Im completely new to this, Im not sure what needs to be done for what.
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When you go to install a rom, put the rom.zip on the sdcard, boot to recovery, do a backup, then wipe data, wipe cache, wipe system, then install the rom
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When you go to install a rom, put the rom.zip on the sdcard, boot to recovery, do a backup, then wipe data, wipe cache, wipe system, then install the rom
If there's an update to that specific Rom - can I do an update without losing my data?
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Sometimes, the dev will usually say.
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I've been reading through these threads: Thunderbolt Root/Unroot Thread and been sort of confused on what to do. Some say I need to go through Revolutionary, some say I need to use the adb - I'm a total noob at this and just want to get familiar with how to do all of this.
keep in mind methods have changed over time. the most specific,up to date info will always be in the ORIGINAL POST
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So - does this also disable OTA updates? and if I wanted to flash a new rom - say the CM7 TB JellyBean rom that just got released - would I need to do something special?

I've been reading through these threads: Thunderbolt Root/Unroot Thread and been sort of confused on what to do. Some say I need to go through Revolutionary, some say I need to use the adb - I'm a total noob at this and just want to get familiar with how to do all of this.

You cannot run ice cream sandwhich or jelly bean roms on this phone. they have not been built yet due to the fact the current thunderbolt build is not compatible with the newer framework..

Ice cream sandwhich is coming by the end of august for the thunderbolt from verizon/htc
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What exactly do you mean current framework of the phone? I thought my phone had all the stats and Hardware to run these?
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its has nothing to do with the stats & general hardware. the phone has all the consumer power, speed & such but...

The thunderbolt framework (the underlying build that makes the phone work) is different in certain ways than other android builds. Until HTC/Verizon release an ice cream sandwhich rom or a dev gets a hold of a test ics rom, we cant build a functioning ics rom with working data and such.

To be technical, we need the RIL info to make a functioning ics or MAYBE a stripped down jelly bean rom. We don't have this.

Now you also have to realise that the phone while a great phone in its time is outdated with todays specs and may not even be able to run jelly bean. Its just making it in terms of running ICS and we dont know how well yet either.

Without sounding condensending or such, you should really read up on root, roms & stuff. There is more to it than just having a phone totally open. Just because a phone is rooted doesn't mean you can do everything to it. Phones have limitations especially with how fast the android market moves with phones..
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You cannot run ice cream sandwhich or jelly bean roms on this phone. they have not been built yet due to the fact the current thunderbolt build is not compatible with the newer framework..

Ice cream sandwhich is coming by the end of august for the thunderbolt from verizon/htc
jrocker,i believe he is refering to this rom: *New Rom*- TeamVicious JELLYBLUR CM7 v7.2! ,wich is cm7(gingerbread) themed to look like jelly bean.

alexonvinyl you will be able to run that rom just fine. the comments jrocker made are excellent information,but are refering to "real" builds of android 4.0 and 4.1,wich are not the same as the rom you want to run.
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jrocker,i believe he is refering to this rom: *New Rom*- TeamVicious JELLYBLUR CM7 v7.2! ,wich is cm7(gingerbread) themed to look like jelly bean.

alexonvinyl you will be able to run that rom just fine. the comments jrocker made are excellent information,but are refering to "real" builds of android 4.0 and 4.1,wich are not the same as the rom you want to run.
my apologies, i thought he wanted to run pure jelly bean or ics. thanks for advising...
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I've been reading up a bit, trying to grasp it a bit more. The reason behind my wanting to root the phone is because if HTC stops development on my phone that I got a little better a year ago as of today, I want to still be able to keep up in some sense to make better use of my phone, not necessarily run the official latest android fw, but to run custom builds of such that can be fitted to run on my phone such as that CM7 jelly bean Rom mod. I also want more control over my phone - I suppose you could say that I want to be able to root and explore more options with the device I have in meanwhile waiting for another upgrade.

I know what a bootloader is and had access to my MotoDroid 1 bootloader by keyboard access, so I understand that, how it works, but I'm a little lost on rooting, and upgrading a Rooted device. Also a bit lost on what a temp root is.

Again thank you all for being so patient with me on all of this. I guess I want to learn how to properly root automatically as well as manually - for now it seems I should start with automatic rooting. Then learn more about rooting manually with ADB - if it helps, I know how to work the ADB in the sense of taking screen shots and viewing my phone but need some more help with my specific Device and it's current firmware.
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Thread Solved, used trtr's tool - worked great, thank you to jrocker, scotty & trtr.
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Anytime, enjoy the root...
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