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I saw a video where minus5252 has this ROM working on the Triumph?

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I saw a video where minus5252 has this ROM working on the Triumph?

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That's a GSM rom and Triumph is a CDMA phone...so obvious result is no radio! So it may work, but you have no cell service.
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That's a GSM rom and Triumph is a CDMA phone...so obvious result is no radio! So it may work, but you have no cell service.
Actually, and this sounds weird, but the phone worked, just not 3G...everything else worked perfect though.

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Actually, and this sounds weird, but the phone worked, just not 3G...everything else worked perfect though.

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Like no data period (no 1x or 3g) or no 3g only...?
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Actually, and this sounds weird, but the phone worked, just not 3G...everything else worked perfect though.

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You actually used the phone with this ROM?
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No data period except that WiFi worked...but no 3G or 1x.
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Calls and sms work?
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Title little misleading, got me excited for no reason.
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Be VERY careful flashing a GSM rom on this thing, especially if you don't do it through Clockwork. If your partition table gets scrambled you're in big trouble.
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Never tried SMS and *luckily* everything else appears to be fine after reverting.
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Calls and sms work?
Yup just no 3g it has bars with 3g symbol everything just wont connect to it.
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Lightbulb Maybe this could be a fix for keymapping

If i go into /system/usr in that rom and replace those folders with the ones from /system/usr on a 2.2 will they fix the keymapping? Thats what we did with optimus S roms with the Optimus V we when we flashed the optimus rom on the the keys was incorrect so we swapped out the folders and it worked. Maybe it will on this.
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If i go into /system/usr in that rom and replace those folders with the ones from /system/usr on a 2.2 will they fix the keymapping? Thats what we did with optimus S roms with the Optimus V we when we flashed the optimus rom on the the keys was incorrect so we swapped out the folders and it worked. Maybe it will on this.
you could always try.... and how would we change the rom from gsm to cdma?
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you could always try.... and how would we change the rom from gsm to cdma?
Technically speaking it is cdma but its a cdma that uses a sim card. Thats what i think otherwise i think we wouldnt be able to call and text. Other than i dont know what to do. I'm newbie really i dont know that much about android software.
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That's a RUID card, not a SIM card. Same idea though. If someone has source to that one...
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so where could we get the source for it from? and how much of a challenge is it to make it work on "our" form of CDMA?
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Where'd it come from? Talk to whoever published the link.... if you can figure that out.

The only difference between a RUID-card phone and ours is where the subscription information comes from (card .vs. NVRAM in the radio.) It could take anywhere from a half-hour to a long time to fix it up, depending on how dumb the implementation is.
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Incidentally the reason the data won't come up is that the radio has to be in one of two states on a CDMA phone for it to happen: Either RUIM_READY (same as a SIM but on a CDMA phone - up and accessible) OR NV_READY.

If it's not in one of those two states data will NOT start. That's the bottom line; if you have a ROM that is built for a RUIM-capable phone and does not include the ability to run without one, you're dorked and done as the code will never go into the proper state to ask the NV for the subscription information and data will not come up.

If you look under system information your phone number, the MID and PRL are probably also missing on that screen - those come from the NV on our phones.

I doubt there's a way to fix this without source to the entire ROM in question - or at minimum source to rild, which you could recompile and change the callbacks out of it to send a State 9 (NV_Ready) up the stack. That SHOULD work.

(Fighting with this crap is part of what's causing me trouble with CM7 right now; I'm neck-deep in this part of the code at present and I understand it pretty well. Our wonderful Triumph radios keep telling Android that it has a SIM slot, and there's no SIM in the slot. That doesn't work so well either considering there's no slot.)
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Incidentally the reason the data won't come up is that the radio has to be in one of two states on a CDMA phone for it to happen: Either RUIM_READY (same as a SIM but on a CDMA phone - up and accessible) OR NV_READY.

If it's not in one of those two states data will NOT start. That's the bottom line; if you have a ROM that is built for a RUIM-capable phone and does not include the ability to run without one, you're dorked and done as the code will never go into the proper state to ask the NV for the subscription information and data will not come up.

If you look under system information your phone number, the MID and PRL are probably also missing on that screen - those come from the NV on our phones.

I doubt there's a way to fix this without source to the entire ROM in question - or at minimum source to rild, which you could recompile and change the callbacks out of it to send a State 9 (NV_Ready) up the stack. That SHOULD work.

(Fighting with this crap is part of what's causing me trouble with CM7 right now; I'm neck-deep in this part of the code at present and I understand it pretty well. Our wonderful Triumph radios keep telling Android that it has a SIM slot, and there's no SIM in the slot. That doesn't work so well either considering there's no slot.)
Yikes... Any reason the radio is relaying that information? would the radio be built specifically for use without a sim in which case it should never know anything about a sim card to begin with... Or is it a radio used with sims programmed not to look for one?
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It's not the radio, it's the load you're using. The radio has NV in it that has your MDN (phone number) and MID (a relative of it, but not the phone number) along with the PRL. All that has to be there and the phone has to know what it is. If you have a RUIM slot then that stuff is in there. But in ours there's no slot, so it's in NV.

If the code is built to use only an RUIM, like a SIM, then it won't come up because it doesn't know to ask the radio for the information. You can make voice calls and send text messages because the radio is working, but Android will refuse to go into data mode until the subscriber information is known to the device - which means the radio has to be in one of those two states or it won't attempt to bring up a data connection.

I assume the reason it allows voice calls is so you can call 911 without being authenticated.

Motorola's radio code in this thing is well-beyond "squirelly"; it is sending up state codes that are blatantly wrong. I had to hack around this in the CM7 software to get data to work on there, and I assume the same thing will apply to this version.
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Are calls and sms working in cm7 then? If so were they working before your work around?
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Yes but there is no audio (at all) due to a driver problem of some sort at present. Getting the radio to come up far enough to receive and send a SMS or make/accept a call occurred several days ago - getting the phone to come up into data mode was considerably more difficult.

Getting the code working to that point led me to dig through most of the radio-related code (the related parts are all in the framework, incidentally, which is interesting in and of itself) and at this point I understand the conditions that must exist for Android to attempt starting a data session. Note that by default the debugging statements are off in the log, so a logcat on the radio will imply what the problem is but likely won't TELL YOU which state condition is prohibiting the start - I had to add several debugging statements to discern that and be able to trace it down.
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Yes but there is no audio (at all) due to a driver problem of some sort at present. Getting the radio to come up far enough to receive and send a SMS or make/accept a call occurred several days ago - getting the phone to come up into data mode was considerably more difficult.

Getting the code working to that point led me to dig through most of the radio-related code (the related parts are all in the framework, incidentally, which is interesting in and of itself) and at this point I understand the conditions that must exist for Android to attempt starting a data session. Note that by default the debugging statements are off in the log, so a logcat on the radio will imply what the problem is but likely won't TELL YOU which state condition is prohibiting the start - I had to add several debugging statements to discern that and be able to trace it down.
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Who's got a link to that rom?
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Thank you - got it.
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This rom is so much better than stock! I just wish we had the source code so that we could fix the 3g.
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Forget it. The best bet for Gingerbread is the CM7 line of code. If you want you can also take a crack as AOSP but I got started with CM7 so here we are....

This phone does not have the RUIM module and as such it's simply not going to to work.
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was this project abandoned? is there no possible way to get this working i mean cm7 is 2.3 and that is working only problem i see here is data... can't be that had to fix can it?

EDIT: does HDMI work with this rom?
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i thought data was working but not the calling/text

gonna take a crack at it myself just wondering if its impossible to fix
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Calling and text reportedly works. I would need a beta tester though, since I don't like to flash anymore...
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it'd be awesome if you can get it working i'll test it

would add more variety to the roms we can use
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hell, i'd test too! what exactly controls the data?
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either kernel or system?
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either kernel or system?
i say we "pop" a cm7 kernel in it, and see where that gets us
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i say we "pop" a cm7 kernel in it, and see where that gets us
thats one of the things i was gonna try that and replacing system files with ones from cm7
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Is Andro-ID better than CM7?
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well "i" havent tryied it yet... gonna in a minute though
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ok i swapped the kernel and nothing...
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did it boot?
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oh yeah it booted and everything... just no 3g and the process "media" force closes alot
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Old January 4th, 2012, 07:07 PM   #44 (permalink)
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oh yeah it booted and everything... just no 3g and the process "media" force closes alot
i don't get any force closes but definitively no 3g in my opinion with some tweaking and fixing the capacitive buttons this would be better then cm7 and by the looks of it we would be able to theme this bad boy easily
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i don't get any force closes but definitively no 3g in my opinion with some tweaking and fixing the capacitive buttons this would be better then cm7 and by the looks of it we would be able to theme this bad boy easily
it does look sweet! i used the kernel out of cm7-reloaded... and didnt wipe anything before flashing.

i wish we had the source to this rom!!!
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Try MIUI kernel, make sure to wipe.
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I tryed and flashed this no other kernels. had 3g and was able to send text..
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I tryed and flashed this no other kernels. had 3g and was able to send text..
really? but it still says "no RUIM card" right?
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just tested HDMI works with this rom (first confirmed gingerbread rom with hdmi) maybe we can use this to fix hdmi in cm7 or miui somehow
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