So I've tried Franco 18.2 on stock 4.0.4 for a few days now, and haven't found any noticeable increase or decrease in battery life, even when keeping CPU speeds fairly conservative. Bummer =(
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GLaDOS kernel?
I'm currently running the franco milestone1 kernel. It's decent so far, but I'm wondering if anyone has tried the GLaDOS kernels? It seems like franco's are at least loosely based on them.
Has anyone tried them? Any feedback? How was battery life compared to LeanKernel and franco?
Soooo I rescind my previous statement... I'm glad I stuck with Franco 18.2 for a couple extra days, because the other day I was able to eek out an extremely respectable 2hrs 45mins of screen time and real usage, including videos, music, and games, all on wifi. Stock 4.0.4 here's the proof
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I noticed that Franco changed his recommended color values in the latest Milestone, specifically to much smaller values (old values were 229, 262, 307; new values are 180, 192, 200). Does anyone recall him saying why the values were dropped? I ask because while I like the old settings (they were very "cool" colors, with whiter whites), I am concerned that with such a high value for blue (307), the screen's ability to display blue may wear down prematurely. This concern is based on literature that states that with OLED displays, the blue sub pixels have the shortest lifespan.
I noticed that Franco changed his recommended color values in the latest Milestone, specifically to much smaller values (old values were 229, 262, 307; new values are 180, 192, 200). Does anyone recall him saying why the values were dropped? I ask because while I like the old settings (they were very "cool" colors, with whiter whites), I am concerned that with such a high value for blue (307), the screen's ability to display blue may wear down prematurely. This concern is based on literature that states that with OLED displays, the blue sub pixels have the shortest lifespan.
Did Franco mention anything about this?
I don't, but I can take a good guess as to why. Every screen is different you need to use what is best to your eyes
As far as the screen or any part of it "burning out" you might have a valid concern. Also with the values so high, there might be more of a chance for screen burn-in/image retention.
I've been doing some really interesting experimentation with these color multi's and gamma settings hopefully I can come to some sort of conclusion and post my results in the coming days!
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Guys, I just flashed Franco 110 nightly and I don't see the Turtle governor. How does one enable this option? Attached screen print. Also, is anyone undervolting and what are your recommended mV settings for the different CPU frequencies?
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Guys, I just flashed Franco 110 nightly and I don't see the Turtle governor. How does one enable this option? Attached screen print. Also, is anyone undervolting and what are your recommended mV settings for the different CPU frequencies?
Franco removed Turtle back around 89 or so. Or was it 94? Hell I can't remember. In any case, he suggests OnDemand for optimal battery life.
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Any suggestions on an application (preferably free) to use with this kernel.
I just use setcpu (for a slight underclock), but nofrills is free. Depends on what you want to do with the kernel. You can dnld francos app and really tweak to your hearts content.
My kernel super tweaking days are over, I just run it and go That is what I want from a kernel. As few bells and whistles as possible, something I can flash and know that it will run right whether I tweak a parameter or not.
I have found this to be the case with M2 and I highly recommend it!
Running M2 with latest CM9 since yesterday. This is the most responsive setup I've ever used on the GN so far. Bamf with stock kernel was a very close 2nd.
If you feel like sticking it out (I see a lot of people install it and they just don't give it a chance for one reason or another then uninstall it...), give it 2 charge cycles. The 1st day with M3 I was "meh maybe I should go back to M2" (which is awesome as well). The next day I was "yeah!"
I don't know what it is about letting a kernel "settle" or whatever one wants to call it, but I believe
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If you feel like sticking it out (I see a lot of people install it and they just don't give it a chance for one reason or another then uninstall it...), give it 2 charge cycles. The 1st day with M3 I was "meh maybe I should go back to M2" (which is awesome as well). The next day I was "yeah!"
I don't know what it is about letting a kernel "settle" or whatever one wants to call it, but I believe
I hear you and definitely will give it a go for a few days. Curious why you don't run hot plug and chose interactive?
So jbdan, I thought you said you used interactive. So now you have switched to hotplug, when using the app? Just want to make sure I understand.
I'm using the interactive governor which is default governor on M2 and M3. But I've enabled "generic hot plug" tweak in Franco's app which allows the interactive governor to act like a hot plug governor but ONLY when the screen is off. Screen back on, full blown dual core interactive goodness. :-)
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I'm using the interactive governor which is default governor on M2 and M3. But I've enabled "generic hot plug" tweak in Franco's app which allows the interactive governor to act like a hot plug governor but ONLY when the screen is off. Screen back on, full blown dual core interactive goodness. :-)
ahhh, I understand. Thanks!!!
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I meant to add that the "generic hotplug" tweak in franco's app disables CPU1 when screen goes off. It immediately re-enables upon the screen turning on. Didn't know if you knew that or not. So you're still using the responsiveness of the interactive governor but with the added benefit of great idle battery life from disabling one of the CPU cores.
The OnDemand governor has been returned to the default governor in francos latest nightlies. He says it is the most complete overall. He's been back and forth on which governor to use lol. What I've noticed is that OnDemand is not quite as responsive as Interactive, but can give a little better battery life. Faux uses ondemand for his default governor and runs it himself. I like the responsiveness of the interactive governor even though OnDemand might gain me an hour more battery life throughout a day. I choose snappiness over battery life because for me battery life is already so good.
My voltages, and I feel like a safe moderate UV (although it is phone dependent so do not "set on boot" until you're stable after tinkering for a day), are:
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Or maybe these new radios are helping out....
jbdan,
Which set of new radios did you use - I noticed there are a few out there.
More importantly, have you seen slower download speeds when you updated? I am on the leaked 4.0.4 radios, but keep hearing about the official ones have slowed download speeds for people, which has made me not upgrade...
I've actually stopped manually undervolting and have let SmartReflex take over. It is much smarter than I and the calibrated voltages are very similar to those values, even lower in some instances.
Which set of new radios did you use - I noticed there are a few out there.
More importantly, have you seen slower download speeds when you updated? I am on the leaked 4.0.4 radios, but keep hearing about the official ones have slowed download speeds for people, which has made me not upgrade...
Just wondering if you are seeing that as well.
I'm on the FC04/05 radios, the newest .4 radios that have leaked. They perform the best for me and my speeds have actually increased just a little bit. They were fine before as well.
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I'm on the FC04/05 radios, the newest .4 radios that have leaked. They perform the best for me and my speeds have actually increased just a little bit. They were fine before as well.
It meant did you download the one with the bootloader or without. Sorry, I was tired and wasn't very clear.
It meant did you download the one with the bootloader or without. Sorry, I was tired and wasn't very clear.
I downloaded the one with the bootloader because that is all that was out at the time. I was already running the latest bootloader though. Either way it doesn't matter, you can flash the one with or without the bootloader and it doesn't even matter if you're already running the same bootloader that the radio flash contains. Bootloaders don't really do anything that we need to worry about
You can dnld francos app and really tweak to your hearts content.
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Franco M3 was my first kernel, but shortly thereafter, I flashed LeanKernel, which is what I'm currently using. I also installed Franco's app after I flashed Franco M3. My current ROM is AOKP M5.
Question:
Does Franco's app still tweak LeanKernel, or is it only applicable when one of his Franco kernels is currently flashed? AOKP comes with some CPU tweaks, how do those tweaks and Franco's app inter-mingle? Does one take precedence over the other?
Franco M3 was my first kernel, but shortly thereafter, I flashed LeanKernel, which is what I'm currently using. I also installed Franco's app after I flashed Franco M3. My current ROM is AOKP M5.
Question:
Does Franco's app still tweak LeanKernel, or is it only applicable when one of his Franco kernels is currently flashed? AOKP comes with some CPU tweaks, how do those tweaks and Franco's app inter-mingle? Does one take precedence over the other?
Thanks in advance.
I haven't tried Lean in months. I'm pretty sure franco's app works with it. You can dnld and flash imo's kernels directly through the app so I would think it will tweak it as well. I'm not positive on that though.
I don't mess with AOKP "performance" settings at all unless I'm running the stock Faux 16m kernel. Since I've really found a "kernel home" and what my phone likes best, I do all the tweaking, though minuscule compared to what one is able to do, through the franco app. Use one or the other not both. You can do a lot more with the franco app then what is built into AOKP. I tweak colors and enable generic hotplug that is it.
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So what's that part that says voltages are not set at boot withthat option?
That would be the part that I didn't read before I posted Sorry about that
I use it to set the governor at boot. So many people tweaked their volts and set on boot without testing for stability. Therefor people ate huge bowls of bootloops and complained in francos thread so he turned that option off in his app.
If you want your custom volts to stick you'll have to use setcpu, nofrills, or similar from market. Or maybe AOKP performance settings will make the voltage settings stick through a reboot. Try it and let us know
Yeah, the aokp preferences have it. I just seem to get better results when I make all changes from within franco's app, so I was hoping there was a way to make it stick from there. Thanks for the help!
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Something weird here. I get about a score of 3000 on Quadrant; the only thing I have done with the Franco app is turn on hotplug. When I go to the Power settings in the app, nothing is highlighted by default. If I choose something, like music, it changes several settings, like governor and clock speed. After that I get a vastly lower Quadrant scores, which is to be expected. The weird part is that I cannot get the settings to go back to give me my original quadrant score of around 3000. Even if I restore data with Titanium, I still get the lower scores. The only way I can get back to my original scores(and thus, my original settings) is to uninstall the Franco app and then restore it. Then it's right back to original. So choosing a power option seems to make some irreversible change in the settings somehow.
Something weird here. I get about a score of 3000 on Quadrant; the only thing I have done with the Franco app is turn on hotplug. When I go to the Power settings in the app, nothing is highlighted by default. If I choose something, like music, it changes several settings, like governor and clock speed. After that I get a vastly lower Quadrant scores, which is to be expected. The weird part is that I cannot get the settings to go back to give me my original quadrant score of around 3000. Even if I restore data with Titanium, I still get the lower scores. The only way I can get back to my original scores(and thus, my original settings) is to uninstall the Franco app and then restore it. Then it's right back to original. So choosing a power option seems to make some irreversible change in the settings somehow.
That is odd. I've never run quadrant on the GN. Only on my Inc back in 2010 when it was "cool"
So if you choose "none" in the "power mode" settings and turn your cpu frequencies and governor back to your personal defaults, you'll get a lower quadrant score then you did previously on those exact same cpu frequency and governor settings?
That is odd. I've never run quadrant on the GN. Only on my Inc back in 2010 when it was "cool"
So if you choose "none" in the "power mode" settings and turn your cpu frequencies and governor back to your personal defaults, you'll get a lower quadrant score then you did previously on those exact same cpu frequency and governor settings?
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