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Old November 22nd, 2009, 01:11 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I'm beginning to think any rumors of the HTC Passion...or anything else new...for Verizon before January are probably just that...rumors. VZW likes to hype things for awhile like they did the Droid and the Storm 2, and there has been none of that.

Any other thoughts on that before I go back to a new BlackBerry? I can't wait until 2010 for a new Android and I've returned the Droid and Eris for problems (mostly the small font issues and media transfer problems with a Mac).

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When I was researching the Droids at VZW stores about 2 wks ago, one lady worker told me "there will be 2 more Droid phones released this year." We already covered the reliability/knowledge of these workers (most of the time, not very reliable/knowledgable), but I figured this would be a thread worth mentioning it in. Take it FWIW...

I have til Jan 13th to exchange my Eris. If nothing great comes along by then or in the forseeable future, I'll be very happy keeping the Eris.
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When I was researching the Droids at VZW stores about 2 wks ago, one lady worker told me "there will be 2 more Droid phones released this year." We already covered the reliability/knowledge of these workers (most of the time, not very reliable/knowledgable), but I figured this would be a thread worth mentioning it in. Take it FWIW...

I have til Jan 13th to exchange my Eris. If nothing great comes along by then or in the forseeable future, I'll be very happy keeping the Eris.
I'll take that as probably one more "new" one as most of the Verizon reps are confusing the Droids they'll be receiving after the Dec. 11 OS update as a new one. Also...the reps here refuse to say anything and there's nothing in any of the pundit blogs, either. To get me to buy again, it's going to have to have the form factor of an HTC with just Android 2.0 on it...not the Sense UI. That's cool, but it makes the 2.0 OS NON-updatable to 2.x.
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Google the Saygus vPhone. Although I can't say that it's coming out before Jan, there are a couple of vids on youtube. 7 home screens, video calls, and supposedly a better keypad than the Droid.
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Google the Saygus vPhone. Although I can't say that it's coming out before Jan, there are a couple of vids on youtube. 7 home screens, video calls, and supposedly a better keypad than the Droid.
I looked this...but wonder if Verizon will pick it up since it appears they can't emblazon it with all their usual crap.
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I looked this...but wonder if Verizon will pick it up since it appears they can't emblazon it with all their usual crap.
LOL Only time will tell. I'm pretty set on the Droid. I've looked at all the rumored phones and haven't been very impressed. I just fear that something *amazing* will come out 2 weeks and 1 day after I buy the Droid. I think they like to keep us hanging because they know that some, after using their new every two, will pay full price for a *better* phone.
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I looked this...but wonder if Verizon will pick it up since it appears they can't emblazon it with all their usual crap.
Those are days of the past, if you like the both Motorola Droid and the Droid Eris none have the usual Verizon Wireless, VCast, VZNavigator and all the other crap that is on 90% of other phones.

Anyway December will bring us the Motorola Calgary, which is a "LITE" version of the Droid with the only "improvement" being the physical keyboard.

There are 2 other Android phones that are rumored for 4th quarter (December) but the manufacturers are not ready with the device yet.

HTC Passion was set to release December 6th but HTC again was not ready to release the phone so it might possibly be out in January 2010 along with the LG Eve (LG's Android phone)

Get the Droid, something "better" will always be coming out, but the droid will not become obsolete any time soon, it's a very powerful unit and Verizon will not let the $200,000,000 A DAY in advertisement for the Droid go to waste anytime soon.
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I'm beginning to think any rumors of the HTC Passion...or anything else new...for Verizon before January are probably just that...rumors. VZW likes to hype things for awhile like they did the Droid and the Storm 2, and there has been none of that.

Any other thoughts on that before I go back to a new BlackBerry? I can't wait until 2010 for a new Android and I've returned the Droid and Eris for problems (mostly the small font issues and media transfer problems with a Mac).

Any "transfer problems with mac" and small font issues will exist with a new Android phone or not. A new Android phone will not fix compatibility issues nor give you bigger font. Check the Market for a Font app.
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im stuck -- i returned my blackberry for a droid eris because i love the android OS... however for every positive thing the eris does, it seems there's a negative also (in terms of bugs, etc).. i have until Jan. 13th or whatnot to return it and exchange for another phone - im just wondering, what do you guys ultimately think, MOTO DROID OR HTC DROID ERIS? are they both experiencing the same amount of bugs? whats the positives and negatives of each? im really lookin for some insight here...

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im stuck -- i returned my blackberry for a droid eris because i love the android OS... however for every positive thing the eris does, it seems there's a negative also (in terms of bugs, etc).. i have until Jan. 13th or whatnot to return it and exchange for another phone - im just wondering, what do you guys ultimately think, MOTO DROID OR HTC DROID ERIS? are they both experiencing the same amount of bugs? whats the positives and negatives of each? im really lookin for some insight here...

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Motorola Droid is running on 2.01 which is a better more stable OS than 1.5 which the Eris runs on.

Moto Droid packs a bit more power and it's provides faster web browsing

Moto Droid allows multiple G-Mail accounts, Eris doesn't.

Moto Droid comes with 16GB memory, Eris with 8.

Go for the Motorola Droid...
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Motorola Droid is running on 2.01 which is a better more stable OS than 1.5 which the Eris runs on.

Moto Droid packs a bit more power and it's provides faster web browsing

Moto Droid allows multiple G-Mail accounts, Eris doesn't.

Moto Droid comes with 16GB memory, Eris with 8.

Go for the Motorola Droid...
okay but...

eris will be getting 2.x update in the near future

8gb is fine with me - why would i need 16 gigs? i can buy that

packs a bit more power? "a bit"?

why do i want more than one g-mail account?

i heard htc's eris has a better touch screen for typing (i dont want to have to use the slider)

and.. to top it off - the moto droid is ugly as sin.

anyone favor the eris over the moto droid? i want to get both perspectives before i make any moves.

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okay but...

eris will be getting 2.x update in the near future

8gb is fine with me - why would i need 16 gigs? i can buy that

packs a bit more power? "a bit"?

why do i want more than one g-mail account?

i heard htc's eris has a better touch screen for typing (i dont want to have to use the slider)

and.. to top it off - the moto droid is ugly as sin.

anyone favor the eris over the moto droid? i want to get both perspectives before i make any moves.

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Eris runs on a 528mhz processor, Motorola on 550mhz processor.
The touch screen is exactly the same, they have the same keyboard and it feels exactly the same when texting on the screen...droid if anything is easier because of the bigger screen.

If the motorola droid is ugly then get the eris, case closed. doesn't matter how many features a phone has if it's ugly to you you will not be satisfied. Or wait for another phone, if you are really this confused then wait for something that will make your decision easier.
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Eris runs on a 528mhz processor, Motorola on 550mhz processor.
The touch screen is exactly the same, they have the same keyboard and it feels exactly the same when texting on the screen...droid if anything is easier because of the bigger screen.

If the motorola droid is ugly then get the eris, case closed. doesn't matter how many features a phone has if it's ugly to you you will not be satisfied. Or wait for another phone, if you are really this confused then wait for something that will make your decision easier.
i only have until the 13th of january to make a decision, and the one thing i DO NOT want to do is be stuck with a phone simply because it looks pretty. looks are definitely not everything. if the moto droid is THAT MUCH better than the eris will ever be, i better go back to verizon with box in hand. ;(

thanks for your input btw, appreciated.
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i only have until the 13th of january to make a decision, and the one thing i DO NOT want to do is be stuck with a phone simply because it looks pretty. looks are definitely not everything. if the moto droid is THAT MUCH better than the eris will ever be, i better go back to verizon with box in hand. ;(

thanks for your input btw, appreciated.

Wait until January 10th at least, 4th quarter is not over yet and Verizon is not done releasing phones this quarter.
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Well, I do work for Verizon...
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Well, I do work for Verizon...

Hmm, so January 10th? Is that date significant?

Also, can you say ANYTHING about the HTC Incredible? ANYTHING?
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Hmm, so January 10th? Is that date significant?

Also, can you say ANYTHING about the HTC Incredible? ANYTHING?

There is NOTHING coming out on January 10th, but there are a few phones coming out before then. Reason why I said the 10th is because it's 3 days before you have to give your phone back.

As far as I know Incredible is the same as the Passion, I will talk to our HTC rep on Tuesday and see what he says about it.

Motorola Calgary, LG Eve (both Android Phones) and Palm Pre SHOULD be released before January 10th.

Apple is also due to release a phone and a tablet PC with Verizon in 2010 but dates are unconfirmed. It is confirmed that they already have a working prototype of the Apple device but dates are all unconfirmed.

I have no specifics about other phones but will get back to you guys as soon as I find out more from the Reps of HTC, Motorola, Samsung, LG.
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Interesting news about Apple. Not that I care because I really love this phone! But others have been wondering about it.
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There is NOTHING coming out on January 10th, but there are a few phones coming out before then. Reason why I said the 10th is because it's 3 days before you have to give your phone back.

As far as I know Incredible is the same as the Passion, I will talk to our HTC rep on Tuesday and see what he says about it.

Motorola Calgary, LG Eve (both Android Phones) and Palm Pre SHOULD be released before January 10th.

Apple is also due to release a phone and a tablet PC with Verizon in 2010 but dates are unconfirmed. It is confirmed that they already have a working prototype of the Apple device but dates are all unconfirmed.

I have no specifics about other phones but will get back to you guys as soon as I find out more from the Reps of HTC, Motorola, Samsung, LG.
htc incredible? hmm.. thats new to me. are you suggesting that it might possibly be released before january 10th or did i misunderstand you when u said "there are a few phones coming out before then".

it would be somewhat of a miracle to have another verizon android phone come out before the holiday return deadline in my eyes. im sttill up in the air with the decision between the droid or the eris, however if nothing happens, im afraid ill stick with the eris because of the new OS coming out. any further info would be well appreciated.
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htc incredible? hmm.. thats new to me. are you suggesting that it might possibly be released before january 10th or did i misunderstand you when u said "there are a few phones coming out before then".

it would be somewhat of a miracle to have another verizon android phone come out before the holiday return deadline in my eyes. im sttill up in the air with the decision between the droid or the eris, however if nothing happens, im afraid ill stick with the eris because of the new OS coming out. any further info would be well appreciated.
It is not known yet when HTC will release a new phone for Verizon, they have one or two already made by they have kept it a secret.
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Wait a second, so you mean that Verizon has one or two HTC phones just sitting around, waiting for the right moment to promote and sell them?
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very interesting. If this is true as Fated Distress says, Verizon would start putting these phones in the next couple of weeks. I'm interested in seeing if one of them is the "incredible/passion".

Fated Distress, if you hear anything from HTC, let us know. I'm looking to get an Eris this week, so I need to know.
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Wait a second, so you mean that Verizon has one or two HTC phones just sitting around, waiting for the right moment to promote and sell them?

When I say already made, I mean the prototype, they have 2 already made. All they are waiting on is on production and make more, and then sell them to Verizon.
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When I say already made, I mean the prototype, they have 2 already made. All they are waiting on is on production and make more, and then sell them to Verizon.

And word from the HTC guy on the Incredible? Possible release date? Also, I know you mentioned that it is the same as the Passion, is it the same as the leaked pics we got of the Bravo?

I am just hoping so badly that Verizon gets this phone.

If they don't announce something pretty soon and the Nexus One comes out unlocked or even subsidized on T-Mobile when there has been no news out of the Verizon camp with an alternative, then I bet we will see a lot of defectors.
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And word from the HTC guy on the Incredible? Possible release date? Also, I know you mentioned that it is the same as the Passion, is it the same as the leaked pics we got of the Bravo?

I am just hoping so badly that Verizon gets this phone.

If they don't announce something pretty soon and the Nexus One comes out unlocked or even subsidized on T-Mobile when there has been no news out of the Verizon camp with an alternative, then I bet we will see a lot of defectors.

As soon as I know you guys will know.

Nexus will not come to Verizon for sure. Verizon did not want to take it on for various reasons, including the soon about to be signed contract with Apple.
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I was speaking w/ 611 last night and asked about new android phones. I was told no new androids will be released anytime soon.
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i dont believe htc is releasing anything soon, as the above post mentions.

gonna have to either stick with the eris or gamble on the wait. (well, both are a gamble)

not sure what im gonna do by the 15th or whenever the holiday return date is up. either keep the eris or return it and go back to my old phone till something pops up.
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I've been on the sidelines and trying to fall in love with the Droid but just not there yet....Still have my Storm but just waiting for that new Android phone to come out....I'll wait till first week of Jan and if no need Android phone, then I'm going to get the Droid...so i'll be watching this thread and FatedDistress closely...
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not sure what im gonna do by the 15th or whenever the holiday return date is up. either keep the eris or return it and go back to my old phone till something pops up.
I sent mine back; it was/is due by the 6th of January. I figured I'll wait to see how 2x affects some of the bugs, plus maybe we'll have a better idea if other phones will be released. If 2x seems to help, I'll take the plunge again (using my upgrade.)

It was just too buggy to hang on to right now; hopefully the upgrade will fix that.
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alright FatedDistress, where's our HTC update?
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any speculation that another android phone from htc will be coming in january? i keep hearing that they have multiple phones coming out "very early 2010" - including one high end to add to motorola's droid, but im not sure what they consider as very early. i know no one can give a direct answer, but from what i read, it seems almost better to wait for january to come around. ive used both the eris and droid and feel one is too 'lightweight' in terms of power and the other imo has design flaws i can't get over (box). i am anxious however because the phone is important for me to keep up with college tasks and assignments.

don't know what im looking for here in terms of a response, just curious about what is coming (and i heard a lot is coming).
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I was speaking w/ 611 last night and asked about new android phones. I was told no new androids will be released anytime soon.

611 is Customer Care, and exactly that is what they do "Customer Service" not sales, it's all in a need to know basis, just because they work for Verizon doesn't mean they know everything going on. Customer Care might know of new features that Verizon will be coming out with because it relates to their department but not new phones, they have nothing to do with new phones.

With that being said, I spoke to the HTC rep and HTC is keeping things really really quiet. But there is an Android 2.1 phone coming out early January but he has no additional info on it as they are not releasing that info yet.

This is the e-mail I received from him.

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Nothing yet. All I know is that something with Android 2.1 is going to come out in the first half of January. They didn’t give us any details on it yet. I will e-mail you as soon as I hear anything.

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i know the email doesn't specify, but any idea what phone company this android 2.1 would/might come out on? maybe this rep only works with a certain company? thanks for your efforts, FD!
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if only i could call the post above reliable and accurate, i'd be ready to take my htc phone back to the store before the holiday deadline. seems accurate according to the rumors that htc has at least 2 android phones coming to the verizon network in 'very early 2010'.. and id say that is considered very early.. if this is the 'htc that will add to the high-end android phones of verizon', im hyped... but man, its so hard to believe people these days. all i can do is keep my fingers crossed.
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i know the email doesn't specify, but any idea what phone company this android 2.1 would/might come out on? maybe this rep only works with a certain company? thanks for your efforts, FD!
considering htc has been saying a 'very early 2010' release of a high-end htc android phone for verizon. i would not doubt (if this is not just a rumor or false) that it would be coming to verizon. this would definitely fill the void of one of the two htc phones coming out for verizon within very early 2010. i hope its the high-end model people have been rumored of hearing.
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i hear you keep quoting the information of "htc will be releasing 2 phones for vzw early in january 2010". is this from an article i missed? not saying your making it up, just want to read the article/source so i can stay as up to date as possible.
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The VZW National Account Rep for our company is also saying we will see at least 1 more Android device in the month of January. She is generally on point with the info she provides and allowed us to sample prototypes of the Droid and Eris well before they were publicly released.

My inquiry was about Android phones in general but I still have a great interest in an Android version of the HD2 with the 4"3 screen. I will not be buying until something like this becomes available even though I'm just dying to do horrible things to my Storm 1 with my golf clubs.....
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i hear you keep quoting the information of "htc will be releasing 2 phones for vzw early in january 2010". is this from an article i missed? not saying your making it up, just want to read the article/source so i can stay as up to date as possible.
this is one thing i am for sure of, im not sure where i read it for i been doing too much reading on these phones trying to make up my mind on what to do. but it is known that htc is planning on putting out another higher end verizon android very early 2010.. once again, im not positive where i read it but im sure someone else has seen it or heard it. and when i say 'very early', i mean 'very early' (direct quote).. not just 'early' lol. i will try to find a source for you tonight but its coming (a name of htc incredible has already been lurking around). if someone else has heard this please let me know where i read this, i would like to know also for its been embedded in my brain these past few days. it has been the only reason i have not returned my eris for a droid yet, im patiently waiting to see if htc will make any further moves. otherwise, im not going to wait because as they say, "theres going to always be another more advanced phone coming out"
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The VZW National Account Rep for our company is also saying we will see at least 1 more Android device in the month of January. She is generally on point with the info she provides and allowed us to sample prototypes of the Droid and Eris well before they were publicly released.

My inquiry was about Android phones in general but I still have a great interest in an Android version of the HD2 with the 4"3 screen. I will not be buying until something like this becomes available even though I'm just dying to do horrible things to my Storm 1 with my golf clubs.....
here is another source reason why this htc release sounds plausable. very early is january/february. and boy, do i hope your right stone
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Did a quick google search of: verizon android "very early" 2010
Just got a bunch of old news about passion and a link to this post.
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i know the email doesn't specify, but any idea what phone company this android 2.1 would/might come out on? maybe this rep only works with a certain company? thanks for your efforts, FD!
He (the HTC rep) has to be talking about the Nexus One. I can't imagine something else HTC-branded would debut Android 2.1 ahead of this phone. Perhaps if the Nexus One debuts in the first half of January, HTC will greenlight their high end Android phone for Verizon in the second half of the month.
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i know the email doesn't specify, but any idea what phone company this android 2.1 would/might come out on? maybe this rep only works with a certain company? thanks for your efforts, FD!

This is the HTC Rep for Verizon Wireless. And obviously he knows I work for Verizon so he is not going to share other phones that are coming out on other cell carriers with me.

I will keep you guys updated.
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This is the HTC Rep for Verizon Wireless. And obviously he knows I work for Verizon so he is not going to share other phones that are coming out on other cell carriers with me.

I will keep you guys updated.
please do :x
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This is the HTC Rep for Verizon Wireless. And obviously he knows I work for Verizon so he is not going to share other phones that are coming out on other cell carriers with me.

I will keep you guys updated.
Ok, got'cha. I wasn't aware of all the verizon links in this story, my fault. This definitely encouraging news tho for us verizon customers. Thanks a ton for all your communication with us about your "inside information"
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I hope we do see something along the lines of a HTC phone with android 2.1, 3.7 screen, 5mp camera with LED flash, and 1ghz snapdragon processor like we've been hearing. I got an Eris now and love it. However, if we do get what I just mentioned come out in early January, I will be exchanging my Eris.
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I hope we do see something along the lines of a HTC phone with android 2.1, 3.7 screen, 5mp camera with LED flash, and 1ghz snapdragon processor like we've been hearing. I got an Eris now and love it. However, if we do get what I just mentioned come out in early January, I will be exchanging my Eris.
I'm still deciding between waiting it out, getting an Eris with the hopes of an exchange, or trying to get an Eris straight up on Ebay with the hopes of flipping it to recup some of the cost. Waiting is painful, but I'm worried that if I get an Eris now from Verizon, it'll be sometime early Feb that this new phone will come out and I'll be SOL on the exchange/return and stuck with a 2 year contract. I'm not buying this HTC superphone outright because I'm sure it'll be somewhere in the ballpark of $600 w/o contract. If they'd just release the thing, they could charge up to $299 and I'd buy it sight unseen.

Now, FatedDistress, we haven't seen this new HTC phone for Verizon come through the FCC. Makes me wonder if they're still not set on the hardware or they're having problems. Sounds like Verizon is in a "we're ready when you are" mode if they wanted to go forward as early as Dec 6th? I guess we can expect that there's no concern about interfering with Droid sales?
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this next phone is simply called the 'second high-end android phone' from verizon. basically, if your not happy with the 2year old eris hardware or the droids form, you will now have another option, although it will be in the 'high end' as the droid is. as for your comment about being 'SOL' with the eris, there's always gonna be something bigger/faster/more advanced coming out - don't play the waiting game for too long or you'll get something and then the next something will come out and itll be endless. get something your satisfied with and stick to it. as for release dates are concerned.. the 'very early 2010' for another android phone is close, in fact, i heard from reliable people that there is one more android phone coming out in january and that it will be by htc. of course, no one knows FOR CERTAIN because the competition in the mobile business is fierce right now. but im not going to be surprised when i see a another verizon android in january.

personally, i was not aware of certain things about the eris that i am now familiar with. (particularly hardware and SENSE issues).. i am taking my phone back within a week or two and going back to my LG for a couple weeks until i made a more thorough decision (which will either be the droid -- open source ftw -- or the new phone that will be coming out). so maybe u have an older phone u been using prior to the eris u can use if ur 30 days run out and ur waiting a week for a new phone?
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