I just became elegible to upgrade my phone, I keep hearing things that vz is gonna switch to tiered pricing and would prefer to get locked in before they change things. Really split between those 3 choices, get a charge with it's amazing amoled screen thats larger and customization of android, or go with iphone 4 with it's higher pixel density, built quality and pretty good camera detail, I can always wait for the apple event on the june 6th-10th and risk being closer to tiered pricing.
I looked at dx 2 but I just couldn't get into the whole pentile screen, it just wasn't right for my taste even with a higher resolution.
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Droid Charge 100% all the way. The iPhone is for 16 year old girls, hipster chicks in birkenstocks and people that just don't know any better.
If you played hacky-sack more than never then i'd say get the iPhone, otherwise be a man....get the Charge.
And what do you mean "built quality"? My friend farted and his iPhone screen cracked. Do you wanna have to buy that stupid, ugly $60 Otterbox? Don't get me started!
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I had this same debate when I went to get a phone. iPhone, wait to see if they come out with LTE for it, Charge now... What to do...
After 2 1/2 weeks with the Charge, i'm happy I went this route. It feels a lot better in the hand (the iPhone feels really small and dainty in comparison now), the screen is gorgeous, and the LTE speeds holy crap.
I was honestly set on going with the iPhone 4 because all that was available was the TB, and battery life on that didnt cut it. The day I went to buy a new phone they told me that they JUST released the Charge as an LTE device (i hadnt been keeping up with the news on all the LTE phones cause I truly had my mind set on an iPhone 4). I played with it a little in the store, took a few hours to think about it, went back and bought the Charge. Save for network issues (I attribute the problems to Verizon's network in DFW area right now, whether its true or not, it seems that most of my Verizon friends are experiencing similar issues atm) it's a wonderful phone. I'd say go with it
Are you guys using a screen protector with it? Is the invisishield or phantom skinz better these days? Keep hearing some of the newer phantom ones have orange peel similar to what the invisishield had. Is it good to just cover the screen and not the whole body?
Did you guys get any acessories and does thebody glove add too much bulk?
I'm using the "anti-reflective" screen protector. I'm mixed about it. I think I'm gonna switch it out for the regular one. The screen is Gorilla Glass, which means its better at scratch resistance than regular glass, but I like to be careful anyways
I love the silicon cover, it adds a nice feel and a little bit of extra grip for me personally.
The rest of the accessories, read my thread about accessory issues. I've got some gripes, but thats because I'm "special" lol
Go with the Charge. I was out this weekend w/ friends who all 8 have iPhones. They could not put my Charge down. They were all so brain washed by Apple they had no idea a phone like this existed. They couldn't believe the screen, the apps, and the speed of the phone. I was going to do the same thing, wait for the new iPhone or go w/ whatever other phone was out there. But, this is truly the way to go. Really, how huch more different can the new iPhone be from the rest ? So try something different for a change and you will be happy you did.
Iphone 4 is just about a year old ...
A FULL year...
And you'll have hit for 2 more years? no thanks.
And the iphone 5 is barely going to be an improvement...and its not coming til at least September...and it won't have 3G! Imagine not having a 4G phone until at least mid 2013???
Iphone 4 is just about a year old ...
A FULL year...
And you'll have hit for 2 more years? no thanks.
And the iphone 5 is barely going to be an improvement...and its not coming til at least September...and it won't have 3G! Imagine not having a 4G phone until at least mid 2013???
Great point !!! The iPhone is more of a " status symbol " now. People can walk around like their S..T doesn't stink b/c they have one, but really they are not all that. Apple has just bought into the whole persona that everyone likes to have the latest and greatest phone, while in reality the iPhone isn't the latest and great. They just come out w/ the same stuff, change a couple of things and then call it the quote a " new " phone and we fall for it. So if you want the latest and greatest then Charge it up, if you want to keep doing what everyone else is doing than you will be missing out on a better phone expierence.
Have had my 1st AnDROID Charge after a nightmare relationship with the original Blackberry Storm. This phone is amazing, the apps, the screen, the lightweight, pure awesome! Iphone4 is alright, but no 4G, which make a huge difference when downloading and streaming stuff. Battery life is getting better already after the initial charge! I love it, my kids love it, I believe it has a home with me!
Ya me too! I have BB tour and although I've been satisfied with it, I'm sure not waiting anymore than I have to to get a new Charge. I've read the reviews on the other new ones. I'm sure they are good phones too but I got my eye and heart set for Charge. I'm tired of being on the Android Sidelines!
My 14-yo daughter got an iPhone 4 and I got my Charge the same day (I upgraded from an Original Droid). I LOVE my Charge and wouldn't trade with her for anything. The iPhone is great for her b/c she was already committed to Apple apps through her iPod. Plus "all her friends" have iPhones. 'nuff said. And the small size is good for her little hands. But the iPhone screen looks TINY and less vibrant compared to the Charge. I'm running Launcher Pro and it is smooth ... no more horrible lag that made me want to throw my OD across the room. Battery life has been great. 4G speed rocks (did a side-by-side web test with my husband's Samsung Fascinate and we both had to laugh at the difference).
My OD was rooted and running various custom ROMs to try to overcome shortcomings. Although I've seen instructions for rooting the Charge, I have no desire to root at the moment because the phone is running so well with tons of great features built-in.
I also have to say that I really, really like the hard keys at the bottom instead of "soft keys." The click feels good and I don't hit keys by mistake (which I often did on the Droid when in landscape mode).
I thought about waiting for the new Galaxy S2 (Verizon "Function"), but just had to go for the Charge.
Yea...don't expect 4G on an iPhone for well over a year.
Also, I'm not sure how well the 3G iPhones work on Verizon's network, but I was streaming a full 45 min Doctor Who episode (not optimized for mobile) last night on my wonderful Charge...I was in a 3G-only area and I only buffered twice, and that lasted less than 5 seconds each.
The screen size, resolution, contrast and color were so friggin great that I was capable of getting completely lost in the show without being aware that I was watching something on a phone.
The screen size sucks for anything like that on an iPhone and if you're on AT&T forget about getting that kind of signal service.
Listen, iPhones are not bad devices. Outside of the weak physical construction, everything else about them is solid. But you are solely at the mercy of Apple and all their restrictions. If you don't like their awful browser, you're fu@ked. You want a wide array of apps, forget it.
The iPhone is a status symbol for young kids and the technological novices.
If all you want to do is talk, text and play Angry Birds, go ahead and iPhone it up. Otherwise get an Android phone.
If you're not in a 4G area get the Incredible 2, unless you really want the sweet sweet screenage of the Charge. The Charge is a bit pricey if you're not capable of utilizing it in full capacity. But if you do have good Verizon 4G then go for it. Awesomeness is not cheap, but well worth it.
I chose the Droid Charge with my upgrade, and I am completely satisfied with my choice. I seriously considered the iPhone, but I'm 6'4" with large hands. Texting and typing in general is SO much easier on the 4.3 inch screen. Then you throw in the brightness of the Super AMOLED, and you really have an excellent device.
Also, the difference in surfing the web between 4G and 3G is significant. If you are in a 4G area (and Verizon's LTE network is spreading gradually), it makes sense to invest in a device that is equipped for the next 2 years. Even if you are willing to hang in there until this Fall or Holiday Season for the iPhone 5, chances are you won't be getting a 4G phone.
If you are really in love with iPhone's interface, you really aren't missing much with the Droid Charge's Touch Wiz.
Droid Charge 100% all the way. The iPhone is for 16 year old girls, hipster chicks in birkenstocks and people that just don't know any better.
If you played hacky-sack more than never then i'd say get the iPhone, otherwise be a man....get the Charge.
And what do you mean "built quality"? My friend farted and his iPhone screen cracked. Do you wanna have to buy that stupid, ugly $60 Otterbox? Don't get me started!
Let's not Stereotype...I am not 16(I am nearly 19 come August) and I wouldn't be dead wearing Birkenstocks
and I know plenty well
I do know that Apple's apps have more refinement than alot of the Apps on my Android Phone....
I also know that waiting for OS upgrades with Apple is less hassle than Android
I also know that no that there is a great User Experience out of the Box with Apple products vs downloading LP, Go Launcher or ADW to improve it with Android
BUT....
Android is so much better for me due to the fact I can't stand Itunes(prefer Zune)
Customization
Ringtones Hassle free(So easy to make ringtones)
Droid Charge has a much better camera and Better screen
But both phones are great...You can't go wrong with either really.
I try to be unbiased vs a lot of people on this site who are so anti-apple it is really sad
Go with the Charge. I was out this weekend w/ friends who all 8 have iPhones. They could not put my Charge down. They were all so brain washed by Apple they had no idea a phone like this existed.
You know i read comments like this all the time on androidforums(and other android enthusiast sites) and I tend to think people tend to overexaggerate when it comes to how their phones just WOW Apple users(as if they are some stupid mindless saps who had never heard of an alternative to apple, which is not true)
and I can't see too many Iphone users being overwhelmed and excited by Android phones
Most of my friends are Apple users and they like My xperia play more than my droid charge just because of the Playstation aspect.
You know i read comments like this all the time on androidforums(and other android enthusiast sites) and I tend to think people tend to overexaggerate when it comes to how their phones just WOW Apple users(as if they are some stupid mindless saps who had never heard of an alternative to apple, which is not true)
and I can't see too many Iphone users being overwhelmed and excited by Android phones
Most of my friends are Apple users and they like My xperia play more than my droid charge just because of the Playstation aspect.
I just became elegible to upgrade my phone, I keep hearing things that vz is gonna switch to tiered pricing and would prefer to get locked in before they change things. Really split between those 3 choices, get a charge with it's amazing amoled screen thats larger and customization of android, or go with iphone 4 with it's higher pixel density, built quality and pretty good camera detail, I can always wait for the apple event on the june 6th-10th and risk being closer to tiered pricing.
I looked at dx 2 but I just couldn't get into the whole pentile screen, it just wasn't right for my taste even with a higher resolution.
I think it's really a matter of personal preference. I have friends who have the iPhone 4 and love it, and I personally prefer the Android phones. Reasons why I personally prefer Android: More customizable, Google Navigation, Voice Search and Voice Commands (I'm sure there are iPhone apps for that, but it comes standard with Android), and finally it syncs really well with all of my Google accounts.
Personal preferences aside, the Samsung Charge does have the advantage of being on the 4g network.
I'd go to the Verizon store and play around with both phones and see which you prefer. Enjoy whichever new phone you end up getting Oh and P.S. a word of caution - stay away from the Thunderbolt - it has really bad battery life.
unless everything you have is apple and iXXX, i upgraded to charge today because 1)4.3 screen, and 2) figured i will have this device for 2 years. i am in a lte area and even though i am not sure i will use lte today lots, why not have a phone that has it now. considered x2, but went this charge for reason 2.
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I got my charge this Sunday. I totally love this thing so far, it's not perfect but I am pretty happy with it. I am coming from a touch pro 2 phone. Only thing I miss from the tp2 is that speaker phone was quite a bit louder, and even output volume through usb jack to cassette deck adapter is not as loud as the tp2.
There's some trade off and most are positive. it's a little wider but it's thinner and a lot lighter, I definitely do not miss the extra weight associated with the tp2 and it's keyboard. Screen is responsive, I have not encountered any slowdown with the exception of flash heavy sites. But then again I am not running too much unnecessary junk on the phone.
Battery is usually 2/3 by the time I get back home or 6/7th if I don't use it much. I ended up getting the dock and it's nice, you can charge the phone and at same time an additional battery in a special compartment, don't even need to charge phone. Low battery, please, I just pull one outta the charger pop it in and put the depleted cell in there.
I wish I could force the camera to orientate itself to portrait instead of assuming your taking landscape pictures.
Programs I loaded so far are Google maps., Beautiful widgets, angry bird rio, psx4droid (got lunar 2, ff7 and crash bandicoot warped working), unEcm and linda manager (lets me browse files).
I still got some work to do, I have avoided getting the ed2 update because it intrudes with rooting. I've been content with the phone so far so I don't know if I will bother rooting and doing some mumbo jumbo with some voodoo kernel thing. ( I'm still new to the lingo, supposedly it helps make the phone faster).
Upgrades I am thinking of doing is maybe flipping my memory card and putting the difference towards a class 10 card, I ordered some phantomskin screen protector, meanwhile I got the anti glare one from vz the day I got it but I think it just makes it glitter a bit.
Rooting and the kernel thing are still under question.
I love the contrast.
1. Had a Fascinate before the Charge. Charge is superior in every way except connectivity with auto bluetooth - Charge and car do not talk nicely, probably because phone has Bluetooth v. 3, which car is not compatible with (or so I'm led to believe).
2. 4G speeds are fantastic. Worth it to get the faster speeds, for me.
3. To a large degree it's a matter of apps. Android apps are available that do what I need, so I'm happy.
4. Syncing is impossible between Mac and Charge with respect to calendar and contacts.
If it weren't for the speed advantage 4G provides, I'd have migrated to the iPhone - easier to sync. But 4G was the key for me. Everyone, though, will have their own priorities. Suggesting there is one "best phone" for everyone is silly.
I am new to android and just bought a Droid Charge...all my friends are trying to convince me to trade for a Iphone but it sounds like android is pretty awesome...I have tons of questions and a lot to learn but am pretty savy with electronics, which is why I got the charge..the specs were just alot better then the Iphone5. That beeing said I have noticed some stuff...for instance all the websites say it has 512 RAM and ROM but my task manager says I only have 328 MB of RAM when I go to turn-off programs. Also I keep hearing about Launcher Pro..what is it ans should I download it? Also I here I should download a better browser...which one and how do I default to that one...
I had an iPhone4 for six months, and just got the Droid Charge one week ago. I plan to return my Droid Charge, and get another iPhone4.
I tend to use my smartphone to make and receive calls and texts, use email, and basic web surfing, and an occasional time-waster game.
One of my biggest complaints is that my Droid battery lasts just a half day. My iPhone4 battery lasted at least two full days with the same usage pattern. This issue is huge.
The Droid isn't as intuitive as the iPhone4 when it comes to reading/composing/replying to email and texts.
From a graphics perspective, the Droid is inferior to the iPhone, despite the much larger screen.
The Droid came with a raft of bloatware, but apparently, to get it on par with the iPhone, I'm forced to seek out, download, and configure dozens of apps. The App Marketplace is overwhelming. The list of apps on the phone is overwhelming. I have to create application shortcuts and add widgets to screens. Why does it require so much time to get these phones set up?! If you can't tell, I have little patience and time to deal with this.
Those are the most significant issues that come to mind, but there many other little things that influence my decision, like I can't copy/paste from SMS to a contact or an email. When the phone starts up, it makes a very childish "DROID" robot noise and machine noises that are just embarrassing in an office environment, and the default tones are just as bad. I'm not sure how the iPhone is considered juvenile compared to this phone, I see it the other way around.
If you're all about facebook and twitter updates, and can deal with keeping the phone on a charger, maybe this phone might be a good choice, although I'm not sure it's any better than the iPhone for that (or anything else).
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I had an iPhone4 for six months, and just got the Droid Charge one week ago. I plan to return my Droid Charge, and get another iPhone4.
I tend to use my smartphone to make and receive calls and texts, use email, and basic web surfing, and an occasional time-waster game.
One of my biggest complaints is that my Droid battery lasts just a half day. My iPhone4 battery lasted at least two full days with the same usage pattern. This issue is huge.
The Droid isn't as intuitive as the iPhone4 when it comes to reading/composing/replying to email and texts.
From a graphics perspective, the Droid is inferior to the iPhone, despite the much larger screen.
The Droid came with a raft of bloatware, but apparently, to get it on par with the iPhone, I'm forced to seek out, download, and configure dozens of apps. The App Marketplace is overwhelming. The list of apps on the phone is overwhelming. I have to create application shortcuts and add widgets to screens. Why does it require so much time to get these phones set up?! If you can't tell, I have little patience and time to deal with this.
Those are the most significant issues that come to mind, but there many other little things that influence my decision, like I can't copy/paste from SMS to a contact or an email. When the phone starts up, it makes a very childish "DROID" robot noise and machine noises that are just embarrassing in an office environment, and the default tones are just as bad. I'm not sure how the iPhone is considered juvenile compared to this phone, I see it the other way around.
If you're all about facebook and twitter updates, and can deal with keeping the phone on a charger, maybe this phone might be a good choice, although I'm not sure it's any better than the iPhone for that (or anything else).
I really don't mean this to sound rude, but you deserve an iPhone. Everything that you mention in here is very easily fixed, but I don't have the time to type it all out and it sounds like your mind is made up.
Good luck with your iPhone.
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Could you anwser my questions? I want to keep the charge and think technically speaking it is a superior phone to the iphone..I am just new to the whole smart phone experience.
I am new to android and just bought a Droid Charge...all my friends are trying to convince me to trade for a Iphone but it sounds like android is pretty awesome...I have tons of questions and a lot to learn but am pretty savy with electronics, which is why I got the charge..the specs were just alot better then the Iphone5. That beeing said I have noticed some stuff...for instance all the websites say it has 512 RAM and ROM but my task manager says I only have 328 MB of RAM when I go to turn-off programs. Why is that? Did I get a bunk phone?
Also I keep hearing about Launcher Pro..what is it ans should I download it? Also I here I should download a better browser...which one and how do I default to that one...
Could you anwser my questions? I want to keep the charge and think technically speaking it is a superior phone to the iphone..I am just new to the whole smart phone experience.
I am new to android and just bought a Droid Charge...all my friends are trying to convince me to trade for a Iphone but it sounds like android is pretty awesome...I have tons of questions and a lot to learn but am pretty savy with electronics, which is why I got the charge..the specs were just alot better then the Iphone5. That beeing said I have noticed some stuff...for instance all the websites say it has 512 RAM and ROM but my task manager says I only have 328 MB of RAM when I go to turn-off programs. Why is that? Did I get a bunk phone?
Also I keep hearing about Launcher Pro..what is it ans should I download it? Also I here I should download a better browser...which one and how do I default to that one...
Also..what is bootloading? and Rooting?
I can try to answer as much as I can. I just got this phone yesterday, so I'm not 100% sure about everything.
As for the RAM, I have the same question. I've seen websites say 512mb, but you are right, it shows 328mb in the phone. I think 328mb is correct, but maybe someone can confirm this for us.
I don't know if you are familiar with UI's or User Interfaces. Most android phones have their own based on the manufacturer of the phone. HTC has Sense UI, Samsung has TouchWiz, Motorola has Blur, etc. Just think of it as a "skin" for all of your icons, menus, etc. Kind of how you can change themes and color schemes in Windows on your home computer.
Anyhow, Launcher Pro (and other launcher apps) change the built in UI. Launcher Pro is great, but I actually prefer GoLauncher EX. Very similar, but I just prefer it. With these apps it will override the way your phone screens currently look. You will get a different app drawer, more customization options, etc. Hopefully that helps.
If you want to try a different browser that might be more snappy, try Dolphin HD. It's a good browser and runs fast.
I am not very well versed on bootloaders and rooting. From what I do know, rooting gives you superuser rights to your phone so you can install custom roms and kernels to make your phone run how you want it to run. You can also get rid of all of the bloatware apps that Verizon installs when you root. You can also get the SetCPU app from the Market and lower your CPU speed to help on battery, etc.
That's about all I know. But I do recommend the Charge a lot. It's a great phone! Good luck!
What he said... the first thing I recommend u doing is dl launcher pro or GO.... both run wayyyyyy smoother than TW. I prefer LP because of the 3D app drawer.... besides that, both are great UI.
Apple has always been about being the second wave of technology but making things play nice (at least with their own products). LTE will most likely be in the iPhone 6. They want other companies to test out the first wave and they come in and release a phone with better battery life. The iPhone will work well at what it does but won't allow easy customization if it isn't for you.
That said, android and the charge keep on innovating and don't stop (as long as Samsung updates the software). Lte speeds are very fast compared to 3g
Awesome guys..thanks..that clears thingsup. Couple more questions..if I install Launcher Pro or Go and don't like it can I uninstall it and go back to TW..easily?
Also..everything I down load like Key Ring and such is being stored on internal memory..at the store they told me I could pick where it was stored internal or SD..how do you do this? Also..if I can't change this won't I run out of internal memory? Lastly, what I really want is the Droid Bionic which is suppose to come out the end of the summer..should I return the charge and wait. I got it because it looked awesome and I was trying to lock in my unlimited data rate. I am scared though it won't be powerful enough in 6 mths to a year. ANy suggestions?
Awesome guys..thanks..that clears thingsup. Couple more questions..if I install Launcher Pro or Go and don't like it can I uninstall it and go back to TW..easily?
Also..everything I down load like Key Ring and such is being stored on internal memory..at the store they told me I could pick where it was stored internal or SD..how do you do this? Also..if I can't change this won't I run out of internal memory? Lastly, what I really want is the Droid Bionic which is suppose to come out the end of the summer..should I return the charge and wait. I got it because it looked awesome and I was trying to lock in my unlimited data rate. I am scared though it won't be powerful enough in 6 mths to a year. ANy suggestions?
I can tell you that Launcher Pro is reversible back to TW. I did just that yesterday. Although there were facets of LP I liked, there were thing that I like with TW that were missing. I like the weather banner, the market update and things like that which are stock on TW. Now maybe there's a way to get those on LP, but I couldn't figure it out. So I went back to TW with no issues.
As for the Motorola, who knows when it will come out and who knows when Verizon will introduce tiered pricing. My attitude is you know what is you don't what will be.
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Thanks for the input...and good saying, "My attitude is you know what is you don't what will be."
SO can anyone anwser the question about the internal memory below?
Also..everything I down load like Key Ring and such is being stored on internal memory..at the store they told me I could pick where it was stored internal or SD..how do you do this? Also..if I can't change this won't I run out of internal memory?
I looked also and ended up getting the Samsung Droid Charge for three main reasons:
1) 4G !!!
2) 4.3" screen
3) Android
There isn't a perfect phone but I chose 4G speed (crazy fast) over battery life. My iPhone 4 friends were amazing at the speed. Speed over battery life was just my preference.
When kids are playing Angry Bird or watching video, do I have to say anything more when comparing 4.3" vs. 3.5"?
Android is catching up to Apple. Thing you can do much more with Android. Plus all the good free apps on Android. Sure, Apple has a lot of free but in terms of percentage, I take the Android.
Note. I also like the DC over the Thunderbolt. We have both.
Droid Charge 100% all the way. The iPhone is for 16 year old girls, hipster chicks in birkenstocks and people that just don't know any better.
If you played hacky-sack more than never then i'd say get the iPhone, otherwise be a man....get the Charge.
And what do you mean "built quality"? My friend farted and his iPhone screen cracked. Do you wanna have to buy that stupid, ugly $60 Otterbox? Don't get me started!
This is a horrid reply dude.
Bottom line: ask this question in this forum and you will get nothing but charge. Ask in an iPhone forum same deal for the iPhone.
The iPhone is very sturdy. This comment is a joke. Also has way better battery.
Flip side the charge is fast and beautiful. Apps are oranges to oranges now.
Both phones are great. Period. It all depends on your tastes. Don't listen to the 16 year old girls garb. That's horrible advice and not the truth.
iPhone is the #1 selling devices of smartphones for people over 30. Fact. Source gartner.
I own a Charge tho lol. And I do love it although the call quality leaves a bit to be desired but you can do a programming change that helps. Pm if you need the instructions.
Just trying to keep it real guys.
Ask Obama vs Romney in a democrat thread while you are at it lol. Same thing.
I had an iPhone 4, emphasis on the word... had. The Droid Charge is my first venture into the world of Android and I have to say that I don't miss the iPhone at all.
First of all, the Droid Charge feels like something in my hand, I mean... really it does. I know that I could go without a case on the Droid Charge but I choose not to. The iPhone 4 on the other hand feels like a slippery bar of soap in my hands and felt like I couldn't keep a good grip on it. I always felt like I was going to drop the thing. And they want to make it thinner? My God man! I can't imagine what the thing will feel like when it's thinner!
Steve Jobs, don't get me started on his idea that I can't make decisions for my myself.
That app doesn't agree with me, rejected! That app doesn't look pretty enough for the iPhone, rejected! That app has a feature we're thinking of implementing ourselves, rejected! I hate Adobe, I don't want Flash!
Listen, I bought the phone... it's my phone, not yours. I should be able to do what I want with it. And no, I don't care what one maniacal person's ideas say, I want the control over what I bought.
And Android does all of that for me. It gives me the power to customize the phone as I see fit.
I didn't like the keyboard, so I replaced it with Smart Keyboard Pro. I didn't like the browser, so I replaced it with Dolphin HD. I didn't like the launcher, so I replaced it with GoLauncher EX. I didn't like the SMS app, so I replaced it with HandCent.
Can you do that with the iPhone? NO! It's Steve Job's way or the highway!
I had an iPhone 4, emphasis on the word... had. The Droid Charge is my first venture into the world of Android and I have to say that I don't miss the iPhone at all.
First of all, the Droid Charge feels like something in my hand, I mean... really it does. I know that I could go without a case on the Droid Charge but I choose not to. The iPhone 4 on the other hand feels like a slippery bar of soap in my hands and felt like I couldn't keep a good grip on it. I always felt like I was going to drop the thing. And they want to make it thinner? My God man! I can't imagine what the thing will feel like when it's thinner!
Steve Jobs, don't get me started on his idea that I can't make decisions for my myself.
That app doesn't agree with me, rejected! That app doesn't look pretty enough for the iPhone, rejected! That app has a feature we're thinking of implementing ourselves, rejected! I hate Adobe, I don't want Flash!
Listen, I bought the phone... it's my phone, not yours. I should be able to do what I want with it. And no, I don't care what one maniacal person's ideas say, I want the control over what I bought.
And Android does all of that for me. It gives me the power to customize the phone as I see fit.
I didn't like the keyboard, so I replaced it with Smart Keyboard Pro. I didn't like the browser, so I replaced it with Dolphin HD. I didn't like the launcher, so I replaced it with GoLauncher EX. I didn't like the SMS app, so I replaced it with HandCent.
Can you do that with the iPhone? NO! It's Steve Job's way or the highway!
Actually with a jail broken iPhone you can do all those things. Jail breaking is one click.
Not defending the iPhone. Just making sure facts are facts
Yeah... and every time they come up with a way to jailbreak it Apple closes the hole and the jailbreak fun is over until they find another exploit the take advantage of. Jailbreaking on the iPhone is is cat-and-mouse game that I have no want to take part in.
Actually with a jail broken iPhone you can do all those things. Jail breaking is one click.
Not defending the iPhone. Just making sure facts are facts
Help me understand something on apples app approval process. What apps does android have that apple doesn't that people actually use? You cite that process as a reason you didn't like it.
I use the same apps on my charge that I did on my iPhone. In fact several came well after they were on iOS. I finally just got Netflix. Still no Hulu. Mostly for what I use it's apples to apples.
My Flyer still doesn't have live MLB tv games tho which angers me.
If app choosing is the OP criteria Apple wins despite the process. Add in the JB apps and it's even crazier.
I will say twitter apps are way better on android. Even the same branded ones on both devices are more pleasant on android.
Other than that I like both phones tho the clarity of calls was way better on the iphone4.
Yeah... and every time they come up with a way to jailbreak it Apple closes the hole and the jailbreak fun is over until they find another exploit the take advantage of. Jailbreaking on the iPhone is is cat-and-mouse game that I have no want to take part in.
Not really. Just don't update the Os. Most of them are minor and don't add features.
Yeah it's more of a pain but there's ways around it.
Help me understand something on apples app approval process. What apps does android have that apple doesn't that people actually use? You cite that process as a reason you didn't like it.
I use the same apps on my charge that I did on my iPhone. In fact several came well after they were on iOS. I finally just got Netflix. Still no Hulu. Mostly for what I use it's apples to apples.
My Flyer still doesn't have live MLB tv games tho which angers me.
If app choosing is the OP criteria Apple wins despite the process. Add in the JB apps and it's even crazier.
I will say twitter apps are way better on android. Even the same branded ones on both devices are more pleasant on android.
Other than that I like both phones tho the clarity of calls was way better on the iphone4.
It also ticks me off still no gtalk video chat. I don't get that one.
Flash is one thing, Android has it... iPhone will never have it. All because Steve Jobs seems to have this personal vendetta against Adobe. It's not even a technical issue, it's a personal vendetta/grudge against Adobe and it's clouding their judgement.
What reasons can an app be denied?
* You can't use any APIs that aren't sanctioned by Apple, doesn't matter if the APIs are part of the OS, if it's not sanctioned you can't use them; instant rejection.
* Duplicate functionality. This covers things like Safari on the iPhone. So no alternative web browsers. Yes, they are allowed now... but who knows what they will do later. I figure that they will eventually get pulled. This goes for Skype as well since technically it duplicates Facetime. I know, if this happens it will be a PR nightmare for Apple but I have a feeling that they don't care; remember... It's Steve Job's way or the highway.
* Ratings. Just because it can access the Internet it's slapped with a 17+ rating. Why is that? Safari can access the Internet. Why isn't the whole phone slapped with a 17+ rating?
* Transactions outside the app store. So if you want to take payment through your app without using Apple as a third-party, your app will be rejected. Why? Apple wants 30% of the take of that sale.
Another thing... updates to apps are treated just like new apps. If you need to release a bug fix for your app because of a very bad bug... good luck, you're going to need it. Get ready to wait, because that's what's going to happen.
Flash is one thing, Android has it... iPhone will never have it. All because Steve Jobs seems to have this personal vendetta against Adobe. It's not even a technical issue, it's a personal vendetta/grudge against Adobe and it's clouding their judgement.
What reasons can an app be denied?
* You can't use any APIs that aren't sanctioned by Apple, doesn't matter if the APIs are part of the OS, if it's not sanctioned you can't use them; instant rejection.
* Duplicate functionality. This covers things like Safari on the iPhone. So no alternative web browsers. Yes, they are allowed now... but who knows what they will do later. I figure that they will eventually get pulled. This goes for Skype as well since technically it duplicates Facetime. I know, if this happens it will be a PR nightmare for Apple but I have a feeling that they don't care; remember... It's Steve Job's way or the highway.
* Ratings. Just because it can access the Internet it's slapped with a 17+ rating. Why is that? Safari can access the Internet. Why isn't the whole phone slapped with a 17+ rating?
* Transactions outside the app store. So if you want to take payment through your app without using Apple as a third-party, your app will be rejected. Why? Apple wants 30% of the take of that sale.
Another thing... updates to apps are treated just like new apps. If you need to release a bug fix for your app because of a very bad bug... good luck, you're going to need it. Get ready to wait, because that's what's going to happen.
Flash tho isn't a big deal anymore. Most sites conform for apple right or wrong unless there's an app. I never had one time where I had a site not play.
No idea what you mean by rating. Explain that one further.
As for alt browsers and such.... At least my iPhone had gtalk video chat. Sort of a black eye for google. Vtolk I think the app was. And it is in the normal app store.
I'm not a fanboy for either. I just think the silly comments some make are unfounded and people who ask for info should get non biased info. Not stuff like 16 year old girl comments.
A phone doesn't make the man. If it does that other poster has bigger issues lol.
UIWebViews
If your application has a web view that allows unrestricted access to the Internet where scary things lurk, then you are automatically slapped with a 17+ rating. Why the built-in Safari app is not consequently shielded from minors is a mystery. But those are apparently the rules.
Droid charge, iphone 4 or wait?
