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Old January 20th, 2012, 04:21 PM   #51 (permalink)
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3G Watchdog will let you know exactly how much data you're using. Its a very nice app indeed.

I used it for two months to see how much I was using and never even came close to the set limit VM is imposing, so I'm personally not all that worried.
The only issue I have with 3G watchdog is it measures data from your phone not the carrier's towers. The towers may send packets you don't receive which is added to your data. It is a good way to estimate however.

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Got a message from VM saying that they are going to start throttling data speed after 2.5GB of dat starting in March. My question for you guys is, I get terrible speeds already. I'm lucky to get 512kb/s. Now if I go over the 2.5GB cap will it start slowing down my already terrible speeds, or slow down the maxiumum download limit VM has in place ( which I would never reach in the first place)?
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Got a message from VM saying that they are going to start throttling data speed after 2.5GB of dat starting in March. My question for you guys is, I get terrible speeds already. I'm lucky to get 512kb/s. Now if I go over the 2.5GB cap will it start slowing down my already terrible speeds, or slow down the maxiumum download limit VM has in place ( which I would never reach in the first place)?
It will slow down your speeds to 256kbps or less and that's if you reach the 2.5 gb cap... Personally I use maybe a gig a month probably less since I use wifi when I'm at home, plus I'm lucky to even get 256kbps...
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3G Watchdog will let you know exactly how much data you're using. Its a very nice app indeed.

I used it for two months to see how much I was using and never even came close to the set limit VM is imposing, so I'm personally not all that worried.
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4G on VM? Latest news I heard is VM has an unstated timeline for bringing WiMax, an old relic from Sprint, to VM.
They have to do something with those old systems. It's cheaper to use them than tear them all down now that there going lte.
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Old January 20th, 2012, 07:41 PM   #56 (permalink)
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they will just limit your speeds to 250kbps or less once over 2.5G, and since I don't even get that on a good day, I wont notice a thing
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I don't really support companies doing stuff like this, but you really can't blame them in this instance. You know there's people out there abusing the system with their hotspot capabilities. For the most part, most of us probably don't use that much data with such slow speeds. I thought it was kinda funny, I rarely ever hit 256 kbps anyway, so I wouldn't notice even if I did get throttled. I'm just glad they're not like Verizon/ATT, charging am obscene amount for a small amount of data.
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I don't really support companies doing stuff like this, but you really can't blame them in this instance. You know there's people out there abusing the system with their hotspot capabilities. For the most part, most of us probably don't use that much data with such slow speeds. I thought it was kinda funny, I rarely ever hit 256 kbps anyway, so I wouldn't notice even if I did get throttled. I'm just glad they're not like Verizon/ATT, charging am obscene amount for a small amount of data.
The thing about it is that the more bandwidth that is used the more it costs, or they could just not do anything about and let people use a bunch of data and let the bandwidth be sucked up til its really slow... Its the same way it works if you have internet at your house and have a bunch of different devices hooked uptown it and downloading the bandwidth is going toslowway down making the speeds for each slow as hell..
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They did this with the MIfI portable hotspot too. Connect up to five devices, but go over on data and we'll cut your speed so low you won't even try to use it. My $150 useless MIfi sits in the kitchen junk drawer these days. I guess its time to find an app that blocks apps from using 3G.
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they will just limit your speeds to 250kbps or less once over 2.5G, and since I don't even get that on a good day, I wont notice a thing

Pretty much. I get 200kbps on a typical day. I've had my speeds rise up to as far as 1.25mbps, but those were rare occasions.
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They have to do something with those old systems. It's cheaper to use them than tear them all down now that there going lte.

I hear WiMax coverage sucks or is nonexistent in many areas. I'd say it's as wash as long as they don't invest in extending WiMax coverage.


I think they had/have a contract with Clearwire for WiMax. Personally I think Sprint should extend LTE coverage to prepaid within 2 years and put more $$$ into making it universal. Clearwire can go ahead and foot the cost of getting rid of WiMax--that's their problem! It's more cost-effective for Sprint to maintain one network for all!
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Their Web site faq says that you can see how much data you use on your My Account page but I could not find my usage. I don't mind the limit but their system needs to let you track your usage.

There's a placeholder for it; has been there as long as I can remember:


Just nothing in there yet:


Can't wait to see how accurate it is considering I still can't even get my messaging history half the time & when I can it's 3 days or so behind.
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It was foreseen given that Sprint is doing everything it can to keep unlimited on its main money maker plans.

I would love it if VM switched their plans to something like 2.5GB cap but give us LTE phones in the future - or let us use any sprint phone we want if we pay full price.
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It was foreseen given that Sprint is doing everything it can to keep unlimited on its main money maker plans.

I would love it if VM switched their plans to something like 2.5GB cap but give us LTE phones in the future - or let us use any sprint phone we want if we pay full price.
The idea of support of all Sprint's phones is very intriguing.
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It was foreseen given that Sprint is doing everything it can to keep unlimited on its main money maker plans.

I would love it if VM switched their plans to something like 2.5GB cap but give us LTE phones in the future - or let us use any sprint phone we want if we pay full price.
Technically speaking it wouldn't be all that hard... They could flash their VM firmware with their bloatware and be done pretty much... Will it ever happen probably not... :/ It would be cool, but I highly doubt it...
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true virgin mobile, already started throttling ... today using root explorer[/COLOR][/COLOR] data\system click on throttle found 2 files= data\system\throttle
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How are they sending out the message? I haven't seen anything yet.
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How are they sending out the message? I haven't seen anything yet.
I think they're doing it by email... I haven't got anything either so... Whatever... Its not even march yet...
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I think supporting Sprints phones would be the best option for VMUSA.
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I think supporting Sprints phones would be the best option for VMUSA.
IKR! Technically speaking all VM phones are Sprint phones since VM is owned by sprint... I really don't see why they don't do that... They would get lots more people and make more money! And we would get BA phones
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The message is being sent out by text that is how I received mine a few days ago.Funny thing is that I have 3 accounts and I only received one text on one of the phones.
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Yep. Got mine over a txt message a few days ago. Not too happy about it but I doubt I go over 2GB monthly anyways even with the occasional tether. If you're using their 3G speeds as your main internet source I feel really bad for you.
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Yep. Got mine over a txt message a few days ago. Not too happy about it but I doubt I go over 2GB monthly anyways even with the occasional tether. If you're using their 3G speeds as your main internet source I feel really bad for you.
No kidding... I couldn't live without my highspeed comcast internet... But I still haven't even got a text from them about data throttling yet... Maybe i'm exempt! lol i wish Although it doesn't really matter to me sense the only time I use 3g is at work during breaks pretty much...
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The only way this will affect you is if download 100MB + files multiple times a month and watch a LOT of "HD" videos on youtube mobile. Obviously tethering as well, though only if going to websites that have videos and stuff like that. Thethering and general intrrnet browsing will still be fine.

I usually get 1.5-2.0mbps so getting down to 256kbps(0.25mbps) is quite the downgrade.
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The only way this will affect you is if download 100MB + files multiple times a month and watch a LOT of "HD" videos on youtube mobile. Obviously tethering as well, though only if going to websites that have videos and stuff like that. Thethering and general intrrnet browsing will still be fine.

I usually get 1.5-2.0mbps so getting down to 256kbps(0.25mbps) is quite the downgrade.
"Watch lots of HD videos" lol your lucky you get that fast of speeds where you probably could watch HD videos without much buffering... Me on the other hand trying to watch an HD video it would buffer like every 5 seconds... (exaggeration, but still you know what I mean)
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How the heck are people averaging such high 3g speeds on this phone? Is it my phone or just where I live? My 3g speeds are pathetic.
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How the heck are people averaging such high 3g speeds on this phone? Is it my phone or just where I live? My 3g speeds are pathetic.
Same with me
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Yea my 3g speeds suck ass most of the time and I live in a pretty big city.
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Maybe Boost Mobile 3g speeds are better than VM even though they are both owned by sprint.
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My 3G sucks too, plus sometimes I don't get calls, texts, or MMS, I am SERIOUSLY considering buying a Galaxy S, and switching to T-mo for $5 more a month
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Yea my 3g speeds suck ass most of the time and I live in a pretty big city.

I live in Ogden, utah. Its a decent sized city but not really "big " . I would get about the same speed or slightly slower on my t-mobile 3g phones when i was with them. Sprint does have good coverage here though, the Salt Lake City area was one of the first areas to get their 4g service. Even out in the "boonies " i get decent coverage and speed.
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they will just limit your speeds to 250kbps or less once over 2.5G, and since I don't even get that on a good day, I wont notice a thing
Don't hold your breath. If you already get a fraction of the top data speed on your "good days", after throttling you will likely get the same fraction under 250kbps on those same "good days". If you get one-fourth of optimal speed now, you will get one-fourth of 250kpbs after throttling. Plan on it being similar to the old 56k days on computers.
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I run speed test i was getting 247k .. after i delete the 2 files was inside data\system\throttle.........i run speedtest i got 1007k!.............reboot my triumph after deleting files
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I am really new to VM - just got my first non-dumbphone ever about 3 weeks ago :-) Forgive me if this is a stupid question, but does this refer just to data I send/receive when not connected to wifi?
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I run speed test i was getting 247k .. after i delete the 2 files was inside data\system\throttle.........i run speedtest i got 1007k!.............reboot my triumph after deleting files

Trying this now
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I am really new to VM - just got my first non-dumbphone ever about 3 weeks ago :-) Forgive me if this is a stupid question, but does this refer just to data I send/receive when not connected to wifi?
Yes, data over wifi is dependent on the network you are connecting to and is not included in the 2.5gb throttling cap.
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I did it and it did nothing... If VM was throttling data on a phone by sending file OTA to a folder in the sytem of the phone... Then they're stupid thinking that it would work...
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Yes, data over wifi is dependent on the network you are connecting to and is not included in the 2.5gb throttling cap.
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Old January 23rd, 2012, 03:44 PM   #90 (permalink)
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data\system\throttle owner permissions only check read ----execute before deleting files......works for me !!.....
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Here's the email I received.

Hi Mr.LongPipe,

A Change to Your Virgin Mobile Service

Here at Virgin Mobile, our mission is to deliver an outstanding customer experience. Sometimes that
means making difficult choices in order to provide the best possible service to the greatest number of customers.

To make sure we can keep offering our Beyond Talk Plans at such great prices, we're putting a data speed reduction in place for anyone who uses over 2.5GB of data in a month.

How will it work?
Starting March 23, 2012, if you use over 2.5GB of data in a month on your Beyond Talk Plan:
Data speeds may be reduced to 256Kbps or below for the rest of your month. During this time,
you may experience slower page loads and file downloads and lags in streaming media.
If data speeds are reduced, they will return to normal as soon as your next plan month starts.
If you'd rather not wait for your new month to start, you can restart your plan immediately through
My Account.

Will it affect me?
Based on your activity for your last plan month ending in December, you shouldn't be affected.

If you continue to use the same amount of data as you did in your last plan month, you should not see
your data speeds reduced. Just to give you an idea, in order to hit 2.5GB, it's about 400,000 Mobile
Internet page views, about 90,000(!) emails (without attachments), 91 hours of streaming music
or 20 hours of video clips*.

This will not affect your ability to text or make calls with your phone.

How will I know if my data speeds have been reduced?
If you reach 2.5GB of data in a month, you will receive a text message letting you know your data speeds
will be reduced for the rest of your plan month.

By putting this data speed reduction in place, we're making sure we can deliver the same quality service
you've come to expect from Virgin Mobile. We hope you understand.

Thank you.
Virgin Mobile
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I run speed test i was getting 247k .. after i delete the 2 files was inside data\system\throttle.........i run speedtest i got 1007k!.............reboot my triumph after deleting files
There could be a lot of factor affecting this besides those two files...
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Thumbs down 3G slow in LA

My 3G is so slow, throttling would be an improvement!!!

I live in LOS ANGELES < one of the biggest cities in the world, VM has piss poor 3G, I avg 150 kps, surrounded by towers. I don't recommend anyone switching over for data, VM 3G is useless.

BTW tested my MT, wifi download up to 20mps, it's not the phone.
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Here's the email I received.

Hi Mr.LongPipe,

A Change to Your Virgin Mobile Service

Here at Virgin Mobile, our mission is to deliver an outstanding customer experience. Sometimes that
means making difficult choices in order to provide the best possible service to the greatest number of customers.

To make sure we can keep offering our Beyond Talk Plans at such great prices, we're putting a data speed reduction in place for anyone who uses over 2.5GB of data in a month.

How will it work?
Starting March 23, 2012, if you use over 2.5GB of data in a month on your Beyond Talk Plan:
Data speeds may be reduced to 256Kbps or below for the rest of your month. During this time,
you may experience slower page loads and file downloads and lags in streaming media.
If data speeds are reduced, they will return to normal as soon as your next plan month starts.
If you'd rather not wait for your new month to start, you can restart your plan immediately through
My Account.

Will it affect me?
Based on your activity for your last plan month ending in December, you shouldn't be affected.

If you continue to use the same amount of data as you did in your last plan month, you should not see
your data speeds reduced. Just to give you an idea, in order to hit 2.5GB, it's about 400,000 Mobile
Internet page views, about 90,000(!) emails (without attachments), 91 hours of streaming music
or 20 hours of video clips*.

This will not affect your ability to text or make calls with your phone.

How will I know if my data speeds have been reduced?
If you reach 2.5GB of data in a month, you will receive a text message letting you know your data speeds
will be reduced for the rest of your plan month.

By putting this data speed reduction in place, we're making sure we can deliver the same quality service
you've come to expect from Virgin Mobile. We hope you understand.

Thank you.
Virgin Mobile
If those stats are accurate about reaching 2.5 GB, then I should be in the clear.
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Why do we need two threads on this?
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Virgin now sucks 2.5 gig is nothing 3movies . The only thing virgin had going was there unlimited internet at it was slow at that. Im canceling to hell with virgin there done just like netflix lost cheese after this dirty move.
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I get 0.80 mbps to 1.2 mbps in my city but i don't even use that much data, and i use youtube and pandora most of the time. This is not going to effect me so i don't really care.
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Virgin has now joined the suck group. The only good thing they had was the unlimited internet wich was 3g slow and now capped at 2.5 gb wich is nothing 3 movies. Well time to cancel and go back to tmobiles 5gb prepaid plan.
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I did it and it did nothing... If VM was throttling data on a phone by sending file OTA to a folder in the sytem of the phone... Then they're stupid thinking that it would work...

Your right, it did nothing.
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I get 0.80 mbps to 1.2 mbps in my city but i don't even use that much data, and i use youtube and pandora most of the time. This is not going to effect me so i don't really care.

I got 32k down this afternoon. now THAT sucks
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