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Old April 23rd, 2012, 04:46 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Just got a text message from VM. If you upgrade now to a new 2012 phone your monthly goes to $35 minimum. I was a holdout on their $25 plan and was going to upgrade. Now it looks like I am going to T-Mobile.

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What's the deal with this? I am on a 25$ plan right now, so if I get a new phone they'll kick me off it? I'm about to go to T-Mobile for their prepay if VM doesn't get a decent mid-range phone
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Just noticed that too. I bet a new phone will be announced that will be available right after that date.
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Wow. I was paying $25 a month through VM and just upgraded to a Triumph a week ago. I hope i made the cut. I better watch my account and see if they upped it to $35.
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Seems like a great way to discourage current customers from getting new phones...
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this is one way they can get rid of the grandfather clause now they can hike the price almost across the board every one gets a new device sooner or later
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Overall, I really don't have a problem with this. If you knew me, you'd know that I have RAILED against the carriers, but that's the contract carriers. Overall, the pre-paids play a lot more fair and Virgin Mobile USA has been more than fair here. If you think about it, this is pre-paid. We're not signing a contract and that means we don't get the consumer side contract benefits either. VM was under no obligation to let us keep our $25 dollar plans. Even now, they aren't forcing you into a new plan unless you go beyond their current offering. I don't think that's a bad deal.

Also, keep in mind that this likely means that there won't be any additional fees or rate increases for WiMax on the Evo V when it hits. I can't see them pulling multiple moves like this back to back. They are competing with T-Mobile and Straight Talk hard core right now.
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Starts May 27 . . . you are good to go until you change phones again.
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It's only phones that are released May 2012 and after, not necessarily all phone changes. So as I interpret it, you can change to the Triumph at any time. It's only a problem if you switch to any of the (as yet unannounced) may releases on.

I'm guessing will see the One V in May and the Evo V anywhere from May to July.
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Here's what I posted in the VM forum:

Overall, I really don't have a problem with this. If you knew me, you'd know that I have RAILED against the carriers, but that's the contract carriers. Overall, the pre-paids play a lot more fair and Virgin Mobile USA has been more than fair here. If you think about it, this is pre-paid. We're not signing a contract and that means we don't get the consumer side contract benefits either. VM was under no obligation to let us keep our $25 dollar plans. Even now, they aren't forcing you into a new plan unless you go beyond their current offering. I don't think that's a bad deal.

Also, keep in mind that this likely means that there won't be any additional fees or rate increases for WiMax on the Evo V when it hits. I can't see them pulling multiple moves like this back to back. They are competing with T-Mobile and Straight Talk hard core right now.
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My point has nothing to do with fairness. It is just a simple matter of pricing and quality. Why would I pay $35 for 4G when I can go elsewhere and pay $30.
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Here's what I posted in the VM forum:

Overall, I really don't have a problem with this. If you knew me, you'd know that I have RAILED against the carriers, but that's the contract carriers. Overall, the pre-paids play a lot more fair and Virgin Mobile USA has been more than fair here. If you think about it, this is pre-paid. We're not signing a contract and that means we don't get the consumer side contract benefits either. VM was under no obligation to let us keep our $25 dollar plans. Even now, they aren't forcing you into a new plan unless you go beyond their current offering. I don't think that's a bad deal.

Also, keep in mind that this likely means that there won't be any additional fees or rate increases for WiMax on the Evo V when it hits. I can't see them pulling multiple moves like this back to back. They are competing with T-Mobile and Straight Talk hard core right now.
Actually VM was obligated to let you keep the $25 plan under the grandfather clause.

Another thing the MT is a 2011 phone and always will be no matter what year it is. The price increase actually makes sense if VM is getting WiMAX and the One V/ Evo 3D.
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Actually VM was obligated to let you keep the $25 plan under the grandfather clause.

Another thing the MT is a 2011 phone and always will be no matter what year it is. The price increase actually makes sense if VM is getting WiMAX and the One V/ Evo 3D.
Can you explain to me how that legal precedence applies in this situation?
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My point has nothing to do with fairness. It is just a simple matter of pricing and quality. Why would I pay $35 for 4G when I can go elsewhere and pay $30.
Well, that's why pre-paid is AWESOME. All the costs are straight forward (none are hidden) and in some cases you can keep your phones. Consequently, we're starting to get true competition. If TM is cheaper and you choose them, go for it! More power to you! Consequently, VM has REAL concern that raising prices will cause loss of customers since no one is on contracts and getting new phones is a lot cheaper.

Personally, 100 minutes isn't enough for me so I'll stick with Virgin since I can still get a decent phone (Evo V).
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Not thrilled with VM USA at the moment. Verizon is looking better and better to me.
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yea with vm doing this that means a big phone better than the triumph will be hitting soon.
I thinking either the evo v or the htc one v. the other 2 phones that were talked about wouldn't force triumph users to switch. and just read that virgin mobile canada should be getting the htc one s soon with a price tag of about 600. and vm usa should be getting one v soon hopefully with a price tag no where near one s

Just read the one v is going to be available around may 3rd to vm canada for a little under 300. so the same price range is to be expected for usa more than likely.
But switching from the triumph to one v then going to 35 a month for probably same shit with 3g internet might aswell go to tmobile for 30 fro 4g.
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I'm waiting on my unlocked HTC Amaze 4G. Then I'm going to Straight Talk for the $45 unlimited everything.
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Can you explain to me how that legal precedence applies in this situation?
well for this they are allowed to raise the price of everyone's plan who buys a new phone since technically it's resetting the plan, although as if you don't buy a 2012 phone and have the grandfathered plan you should still keep it. (like upgrading from the OV to the MT for example). When the price hike first started they couldn't raise anyone's plan price since they would be breaking the grandfather clause and since they started it after the MT's release they can't raise your plan rate. Now since they are obviously bringing new phones in they can break the GC by stating that your plan price will increase with a 2012 phone. I believe that's how it all works out. I mean if someone knows law better than me correct me if I am wrong .
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yea with vm doing this that means a big phone better than the triumph will be hitting soon.
I thinking either the evo v or the htc one v. the other 2 phones that were talked about wouldn't force triumph users to switch. and just read that virgin mobile canada should be getting the htc one s soon with a price tag of about 600. and vm usa should be getting one v soon hopefully with a price tag no where near one s

Just read the one v is going to be available around may 3rd to vm canada for a little under 300. so the same price range is to be expected for usa more than likely.
But switching from the triumph to one v then going to 35 a month for probably same shit with 3g internet might aswell go to tmobile for 30 fro 4g.
I don't think I would even switch from a Triumph to the HTC One V. Both have 1 GHz processors and 512 MB RAM, and the Triumph has the screen size advantage (4.1 vs 3.7).
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I don't think I would even switch from a Triumph to the HTC One V. Both have 1 GHz processors and 512 MB RAM, and the Triumph has the screen size advantage (4.1 vs 3.7).
I SURE AS HELL WOULD! lol, actually, I would have to "test drive" one. I kinda have second thoughts about my Triumph (after it surviving a fall I thought no phone would survive.), and am considering just getting a new one off the shelf (from Best Buy, I have the protection plan. )

IDK. I will have to wait and see.
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I don't think I would even switch from a Triumph to the HTC One V. Both have 1 GHz processors and 512 MB RAM, and the Triumph has the screen size advantage (4.1 vs 3.7).
some people would probably jump ship just for the ics and the triumph is still technically on 2.2.
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Overall, I really don't have a problem with this. If you knew me, you'd know that I have RAILED against the carriers, but that's the contract carriers. Overall, the pre-paids play a lot more fair and Virgin Mobile USA has been more than fair here. If you think about it, this is pre-paid. We're not signing a contract and that means we don't get the consumer side contract benefits either. VM was under no obligation to let us keep our $25 dollar plans. Even now, they aren't forcing you into a new plan unless you go beyond their current offering. I don't think that's a bad deal.

Also, keep in mind that this likely means that there won't be any additional fees or rate increases for WiMax on the Evo V when it hits. I can't see them pulling multiple moves like this back to back. They are competing with T-Mobile and Straight Talk hard core right now.
Why did you post this once in the VM forum and then post it again saying this is what I posted in the VM forum. What do you work for VM if not this is a for sure fire way to make people think that you might.

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Overall, I really don't have a problem with this. If you knew me, you'd know that I have RAILED against the carriers, but that's the contract carriers. Overall, the pre-paids play a lot more fair and Virgin Mobile USA has been more than fair here. If you think about it, this is pre-paid. We're not signing a contract and that means we don't get the consumer side contract benefits either. VM was under no obligation to let us keep our $25 dollar plans. Even now, they aren't forcing you into a new plan unless you go beyond their current offering. I don't think that's a bad deal.

Also, keep in mind that this likely means that there won't be any additional fees or rate increases for WiMax on the Evo V when it hits. I can't see them pulling multiple moves like this back to back. They are competing with T-Mobile and Straight Talk hard core right now.
Here is the first post what are you running crowd control?
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some people would probably jump ship just for the ics and the triumph is still technically on 2.2.
True, but the One V will still have Sense over the ICS. Also, you can easily install a custom ROM on the Triumph.
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To me, this is totally worth it for an EVO 3D. If the rumors are untrue, I will move to another network.

I do have a few questions about Straight Talk/T-Mobile though. Are these services 3G? I know along time ago, they were not 3G or only 3G up to xxMB of data. Is anyone familiar with these plans?
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To me, this is totally worth it for an EVO 3D. If the rumors are untrue, I will move to another network.

I do have a few questions about Straight Talk/T-Mobile though. Are these services 3G? I know along time ago, they were not 3G or only 3G up to xxMB of data. Is anyone familiar with these plans?
Not sure about Straight Talk, but T-mo is 3g (well advanced 3g or as they call it 4g). depending on the plan you get you can get up to 5gb of 4g a month then if you go over that limit you are brought down to 2g speeds.
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Well T-mo isn't happening then. They dont have pseudo 4g in my area so Im not dealing with EDGE again.
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"Starting 5/27/12, new smartphones will be subject to current plan rates. This will apply if you switch phones. Go to http://msg4u.us/src for info."

So..does this mean there will definitely be new smartphones coming to VM around May/June? Looks to me like there is.
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Well T-mo isn't happening then. They dont have pseudo 4g in my area so Im not dealing with EDGE again.
T-Mobile still has 3G. and I did a speed test with my friend. His EDGE was better than my virgin mobile 3G anyway. Just saying.
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I have no problem with it, now that I have a tablet too, my smart phone is more of just a phone now or a relay station for data. ill keep it as long as I can for $25 a month unlimited.
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I just got a text from Virgin informing me that all new phones are subject to 'current rates' (not my $25 plan). This leads me to believe that they're about to release a bunch of new phones.

I say BS! Doesn't matter, though. That unlocked gsm Google Galaxy Nexus is looking better and better every day. That with the T-Mobile $30 plan is my next stop when I choose to move on.

What say you all? Is $399 for the Galaxy Nexus unlocked with T-Mo $30/month a good deal?
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I just got a text from Virgin informing me that all new phones are subject to 'current rates' (not my $25 plan). This leads me to believe that they're about to release a bunch of new phones.

I say BS! Doesn't matter, though. That unlocked gsm Google Galaxy Nexus is looking better and better every day. That with the T-Mobile $30 plan is my next stop when I choose to move on.

What say you all? Is $399 for the Galaxy Nexus unlocked with T-Mo $30/month a good deal?
It's a good deal but don't forget to check if you get data coverage where you live
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Just got mine 2 mins ago lol
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I just got a text from Virgin informing me that all new phones are subject to 'current rates' (not my $25 plan). This leads me to believe that they're about to release a bunch of new phones.

I say BS! Doesn't matter, though. That unlocked gsm Google Galaxy Nexus is looking better and better every day. That with the T-Mobile $30 plan is my next stop when I choose to move on.

What say you all? Is $399 for the Galaxy Nexus unlocked with T-Mo $30/month a good deal?
I like the idea, but right now I have my eyes on the Samsung Galaxy S3. :-)

OT: just got the text earlier today.

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I like the idea, but right now I have my eyes on the Samsung Galaxy S3. :-)
You ain't getting that for $399.
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You ain't getting that for $399.
I read the Google Play store is selling them for $399. It was either phonedog or technobuffalo (or both).

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I believe he was talking about not getting the SGS3 for $400
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I believe he was talking about not getting the SGS3 for $400
Read it really fast.
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I like the idea, but right now I have my eyes on the Samsung Galaxy S3. :-)
What I meant is that as much I like the get the Galaxy Nexus, the S3 is being announced at the Samsung Unpacked Event on May 3rd. I could get the Galaxy Nexus at 399.99 but its too soon as I wanna carry my triumph as much as I could at 25 a month but these 3G speeds does not satisfy my needs per se (I need 4G for an earn-n-reward site). But until the SGS3 becomes availible for purchase, I'll have to settle what I have. I may get the Galaxy Nexus if I cant take it, that phone is sexy ;-)

Lol the SGS3 for 400 is a steal but I doubt it, hopefully Ill be around 600. The SGS3 comes around later this year I presume, so thats a long time. At this moment I wanna get a new phone but since I don't wanna buy a phone on retail. Ill get a Galaxy Nexus until the SGS3 is around 400 (9 months after release I presume)

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I'm waiting on my unlocked HTC Amaze 4G. Then I'm going to Straight Talk for the $45 unlimited everything.
Welcome To Straight Talk

Virgin Mobile USA is just screwing themselves in the long run.
Im think about switching to Sim ST too.. I can get most any unlock phone for it. and $45 unlimited everything is a great deal. but can't really trust any phone companies, they could raise their prices plans anytime. eitherway, we just have to pay a little more a littleless somehow. with simcards are better I think.
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