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Official Virgin 4G Page

What's cool?
  • 4G Wimax - I'm assuming as seen on this Sprint coverage map
  • HTC Evo V 4g - A rebranded Evo 3D at $299.99
  • 4G Hotspot and USB


HTC Evo V 4G for Virgin Mobile coming May 31st for $299.99 | The Verge
Virgin Mobile USA and Boost take WiMAX live, ship HTC EVO V 4G and EVO Design 4G on May 31 -- Engadget

Who is going to sell their triumph for this?

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This sounds really tempting... to bad I don't have 4G coverage in my area so it would be sorta useless.
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I had told everyone that a long time ago. LTE would be reserved for the postpaid arena.
They will make more money off of upgrading contracts and getting new contracts with LTE to lure them in.

WiMAX was on the way out, So they had to find a way to make money off of it.
Thus giving it to their MVNO's.

I'd sell my Triumph but I fubar'ed it. Screen is cracked up and I refused to replace it because I knew this was coming. It sure did come sooner than I expected though...

Which is not a bad thing!
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I just called a VM rep and asked if I could use my EVO from Sprint on VM instead of buying essentially the same phone. The rep said no- that is very frustrating/ disappointing seeing how the Sprint EVO and VM EVO are almost identical and use the network.
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I just called a VM rep and asked if I could use my EVO from Sprint on VM instead of buying essentially the same phone. The rep said no- that is very frustrating/ disappointing seeing how the Sprint EVO and VM EVO are almost identical and use the network.
Theoretically though if you look at the software, bloatware, PRL, MMS settings, etc..
It's not exactly the same phone. We'd still have to "Flash" it. They would lose money this way.
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I cracked the screen on the original phone I had, which VM replaced for free. The touchscreen on this phone is non-responsive at times so they're shipping me out another. Lol
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I have a screen protector on my Triumph, Else a huge piece of glass would of fallen off of it. I wouldn't bother with replacements, Nor insurance. I knew eventually there was going to be a better phone.

It took me almost a year to break this phone, I'm usually pretty good with them.

First thing I'm doing after getting this Evo V is get an Otterbox. LOL
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i really like my triumph since flashing, but i would probly be really tempted at this lol

motorola triumph - 4.1 inch screen 720p hd, 1GHz single core, 512MB ram, stock froyo

HTC EVO V - 4.3 inch 3d/hd screen, 1.2GHz Dual core, something like 1gb ram, stock 4.0 ICS



the only reason i would think of not getting it, atleast right away is Vm's little plot about changing grandfathered plans in order to get the phone

but that being said going from possible 3g to 4g would be enough of a network change to allow the to change the price

cause normally a grandfathered plan you can change your phone to any phone you want, you just cant change your services(3g,4g,sms) without changing your plan
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Evolution V has a qHD screen and it'll have Sense 3.6 over it. Although I'm sure pure ICS ROMs will surface.

Edit: I meant Evo....damn autocorrect.
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Evolution V has a qHD screen and it'll have Sense 3.6 over it. Although I'm sure pure ICS ROMs will surface.

well i was hopeful lol i was reading a cnet review on it, said they have been coming basically off the line with ICS, and the actual VM site linked at the top says ICS right in the details, so ill keep my glass half full till VM comes and tips it over lol
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well i was hopeful lol i was reading a cnet review on it, said they have been coming basically off the line with ICS, and the actual VM site linked at the top says ICS right in the details, so ill keep my glass half full till VM comes and tips it over lol
It is coming with ICS, but with Sense 3.6 installed.
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well i was hopeful lol i was reading a cnet review on it, said they have been coming basically off the line with ICS, and the actual VM site linked at the top says ICS right in the details, so ill keep my glass half full till VM comes and tips it over lol
Yes, it will have ICS off the line, but it'll have the Sense 3.6 skin over it, so it won't be pure ICS out of the box unless you flash a new ROM.
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Having a 3D capable camera (and the requisite two lenses) but NOT having a 3D capable screen is annoying. If I can't use the phone to view the 3D photos, I'd rather just have a "normal" 2D camera.

Here's how it will go out in the real world-

"Why does your phone have two camera lenses?"

-Because it can take 3D pictures.

"Cool. Take one and show me what it looks like!"

-Uhhh...I can't exactly. (followed by explanations, etc.)

It wouldn't stop me from buying the phone, but it's a stupid set up.

Edit: The article I read stating the the phone would NOT have a 3D screen was later updated to say that it would. Disregard the above.
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Having a 3D capable camera (and the requisite two lenses) but NOT having a 3D capable screen is annoying. If I can't use the phone to view the 3D photos, I'd rather just have a "normal" 2D camera.

Here's how it will go out in the real world-

"Why does your phone have two camera lenses?"

-Because it can take 3D pictures.

"Cool. Take one and show me what it looks like!"

-Uhhh...I can't exactly. (followed by explanations, etc.)

It wouldn't stop me from buying the phone, but it's a stupid set up.
Who said it wouldn't have a 3D capable screen?
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as you can probly tell ive never run sense, thought it was a completely different thing lol i get what your saying now tho lol


yea i believe the description of the specs say that it is capable of 3d icons and screen images


"4.3-inch Super LCD screen (qHD resolution) that can display three-dimensional images and video"


http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-12261_7-57429978-10356022/hands-on-with-the-htc-evo-v-4g/
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Who said it wouldn't have a 3D capable screen?

That Verge news site said something about it "looks like" the 3D screen was removed. Not sure what "looks like" actually means by their terminology though (grin). To me the 3D screen is either gone or it isn't.
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That Verge news site said something about it "looks like" the 3D screen was removed. Not sure what "looks like" actually means by their terminology though (grin). To me the 3D screen is either gone or it isn't.
A bunch of websites also said 4G will be unlimited so who the hell knows what's real and what isn't anymore lol
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I thought the only 3D capabilities of it are the pictures and videos anyways? =/

The launcher/Sense UI isn't 3D.

They wouldn't leave the dual cameras if it didn't have any 3D functionality.
Uh oh. I looked at the name and it's omitted the 3D. I guess we'll have to wait and see.
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Having a 3D capable camera (and the requisite two lenses) but NOT having a 3D capable screen is annoying. If I can't use the phone to view the 3D photos, I'd rather just have a "normal" 2D camera.

Here's how it will go out in the real world-

"Why does your phone have two camera lenses?"

-Because it can take 3D pictures.

"Cool. Take one and show me what it looks like!"

-Uhhh...I can't exactly. (followed by explanations, etc.)

It wouldn't stop me from buying the phone, but it's a stupid set up.
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A bunch of websites also said 4G will be unlimited so who the hell knows what's real and what isn't anymore lol
Well you know what they say... if it's on the internet it must be true. NOT. Actually if you look at the pic of it on VM's site why does it have a 2d/ 3d switch on the side still if it doesn't have a 3d screen, and as far as 4g goes it very clearly talks about it on VM's site...
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Well you know what they say... if it's on the internet it must be true. NOT. Actually if you look at the pic of it on VM's site why does it have a 2d/ 3d switch on the side still if it doesn't have a 3d screen, and as far as 4g goes it very clearly talks about it on VM's site...
The switch can be used to switch between 2D/3D for the camera and not necessarily for the screen. I would hope the screen would be 3D capable, but knowing VM I won't hold my breath.
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I thought the only 3D capabilities of it are the pictures and videos anyways? =/

The launcher/Sense UI isn't 3D.

They wouldn't leave the dual cameras if it didn't have any 3D functionality.
Uh oh. I looked at the name and it's omitted the 3D. I guess we'll have to wait and see.

I wouldn't take much stock in the fact that they removed the "3D" from the name in the rebrand. Besides, "HTC Evo V 3D 4G" is just a tad bit long. "Evo V 4G" is a good solid rebrand and touts their new 4G offering.
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I wouldn't take much stock in the fact that they removed the "3D" from the name in the rebrand. Besides, "HTC Evo V 3D 4G" is just a tad bit long. "Evo V 4G" is a good solid rebrand and touts their new 4G offering.
It's just weird they would omit such an eye catching phrase like "3D" from the name. It takes away some of the original thrill. I think It'll make my job a bit harder too in terms of explanations.

Then again, I'll already have the phone so I'll just show them. =]
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It's just weird they would omit such an eye catching phrase like "3D" from the name. It takes away some of the original thrill. I think It'll make my job a bit harder too in terms of explanations.

Then again, I'll already have the phone so I'll just show them. =]
The LG Thrill isn't called the LG Thrill 3D... I think the Evo 3D is the only 3D phones that has 3D in it's name... That and there aren't many 3D phones anyways... Maybe they shoulda called it the Evo 3D V or something...
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Yeah, I just think if they'd left the 3D in the name people may have familiarized themselves with Sprints version of it.
Then there would be a self explanatory reason to buy it right in the name itself.

Ah well. I'll just have to get ready to print some pamphlets on it or something. Jk. LOL
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The LG Thrill isn't called the LG Thrill 3D... I think the Evo 3D is the only 3D phones that has 3D in it's name... That and there aren't many 3D phones anyways... Maybe they shoulda called it the Evo 3D V or something...
The "4G" is just as eye catching too. HTC 3vo 4G
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The LG Thrill isn't called the LG Thrill 3D... I think the Evo 3D is the only 3D phones that has 3D in it's name... That and there aren't many 3D phones anyways... Maybe they shoulda called it the Evo 3D V or something...
That almost sounds like an STD rofl.
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HAHA. The LG Thrill + Evo 3D V = LGEVO Thrill-D V (Possible ROM baby?)
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Who said it wouldn't have a 3D capable screen?
The article posted on the Verge on 5/8.

The article was later updated to say the phone would have a 3D screen. I've added a note to my original post regarding that.
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Well you know what they say... if it's on the internet it must be true. NOT.
Weak. Your post managed to be both rude and unfriendly while doing nothing to advance the discussion by providing references or quoting sources.

If you don't think it's appropriate for us to discuss things we've read on the Internet, what exactly do you think are appropriate information sources worthy of discussion? Phone specs that came to us in a dream? Things about VM USA terms and conditions that you heard from some guy on the subway?

thebrycee was right to say "who the hell knows what's real and what isn't anymore lol?" Sprint contacted more than one media outlet yesterday to clarify that information in the press release regarding 4G data caps was wrong. Giving us a hard time for trying to figure out these things is lame, especially when not even Sprint itself seems to know what is going on.
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Weak. Your post managed to be both rude and unfriendly while doing nothing to advance the discussion by providing references or quoting sources.

If you don't think it's appropriate for us to discuss things we've read on the Internet, what exactly do you think are appropriate information sources worthy of discussion? Phone specs that came to us in a dream? Things about VM USA terms and conditions that you heard from some guy on the subway?

thebrycee was right to say "who the hell knows what's real and what isn't anymore lol?" Sprint contacted more than one media outlet yesterday to clarify that information in the press release regarding 4G data caps was wrong. Giving us a hard time for trying to figure out these things is lame, especially when not even Sprint itself seems to know what is going on.
If you think my post is rude report it then. And I'm just saying you shouldn't always trust 3rd party sites. If it's on VM's site I would belive it more than a 3rd party site. Sorry if it came off as being rude, but just because a 3rd party site is saying false information even if you don't know if it is I personally wouldn't believe it. Again sorry if you thought that was rude I wasn't trying to be rude. :/. The fact is all it is, is a rebranded evo 3D for VM instead of sprint so I doubt they would go through more trouble to take features away anyways.
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The article posted on the Verge on 5/8.

The article was later updated to say the phone would have a 3D screen. I've added a note to my original post regarding that.
Not taking sides here, so don't shoot me lol... in all fairness, the article didn't state it as fact. They just said "It looks like", which to me meant they were just guessing based on photos or hearsay. I've always felt it best to read those things with a grain of salt and just wait for more official announcments (but that's just me). Especially when the article in question does not link to official statements to back up all of what they say.
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Not taking sides here, so don't shoot me lol... in all fairness, the article didn't state it as fact. They just said "It looks like", which to me meant they were just guessing based on photos or hearsay. I've always felt it best to read those things with a grain of salt and just wait for more official announcments (but that's just me). Especially when the article in question does not link to official statements to back up all of what they say.
That's what I said, it's best to just sit back and wait until we get better clarification. This totally got outta hand lol

Soft capped or not, I don't go over 2.5 GB in any case so it's no biggy.
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Your enthusiasm and passion for what you want to talk about is noted, however please refrain from any name calling or disrespect to other members.

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I just called a VM rep and asked if I could use my EVO from Sprint on VM instead of buying essentially the same phone. The rep said no- that is very frustrating/ disappointing seeing how the Sprint EVO and VM EVO are almost identical and use the network.
I'm sure they want to sell you the phone and make some upfront money. Plus they would probably have to flash it to the specifications used by VM on the Sprint network.
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I'm sure they want to sell you the phone and make some upfront money. Plus they would probably have to flash it to the specifications used by VM on the Sprint network.
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Plus the only networks that will flash your phone is Cricket and maybe boost (I don't know for sure. people say you can whether it's legal or not I'm not sure). Sprint, VM, and Verizon won't flash your phone and it is against the law to bring a phone from a different company onto their networks...
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I think he is talking about the manufactor flashing for vm sale of phones
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If you think my post is rude report it then. And I'm just saying you shouldn't always trust 3rd party sites. If it's on VM's site I would belive it more than a 3rd party site. Sorry if it came off as being rude, but just because a 3rd party site is saying false information even if you don't know if it is I personally wouldn't believe it. Again sorry if you thought that was rude I wasn't trying to be rude. :/. The fact is all it is, is a rebranded evo 3D for VM instead of sprint so I doubt they would go through more trouble to take features away anyways.
I should not have made a judgement about rudeness. That was not helpful and I apologize.

Instead of being a whiner about it, I should have said that I felt it was not appropriate for you to reprimand others for believing what they've read on third party sites where there is no official information available. VM USA has released nothing (*that I can find*) which confirms that the screen is 3D. The press release available on the VM USA site just says "4.3-inch qHD touchscreen" and nothing else. (I agree that it most likely IS a 3D screen, FWIW.)

Third party sites are all we've got to go on regarding that particular specification. Please don't bust our chops for discussing something that you yourself can not confirm (because no one can, because the info does not yet exist on VM USA's site).

As I've said before in other posts, ultimately, this confusion is all the fault of Sprint/VM USA marketing. They've got a track record of putting information out there before they've got a handle on all the issues, so confusion, corrections and updates are standard operating procedure. Based on all the goof ups, you'd think this was the first time they'd ever had a rate increase or a new phone hit the market. I'm sure that we'll eventually see a Sprint press release that says the new Samsung iPhone 5 runs on Windows Phone 8 with the Sense 5 skin.
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VM USA has released nothing (*that I can find*) which confirms that the screen is 3D. The press release available on the VM USA site just says "4.3-inch qHD touchscreen" and nothing else. (I agree that it most likely IS a 3D screen, FWIW.)
It was made known on the first day that the news sites got a hold of the official Sprint Press Release that the HTC Evo V 4G is a rebrand of the HTC Evo 3D, which can be found on the official HTC web site. Many have posted the link to the press release in several of the threads here, and more than once in some. I know I've posted it a few times myself.

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The VMU page says "Mobile Hotspot, Connect Up To 5 Wi-Fi Devices" under the HTC Evo. Does anyone know how much the tethering capability will cost? I assume since they blocked it on current phones, they will not be offering it for free.
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The VMU page says "Mobile Hotspot, Connect Up To 5 Wi-Fi Devices" under the HTC Evo. Does anyone know how much the tethering capability will cost? I assume since they blocked it on current phones, they will not be offering it for free.
$15/month and your data limit increases to 3.5 gigs a month
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$15/month and your data limit increases to 3.5 gigs a month
Thanks! I assume you mean they will raise the throttle threshold to 3.5gb, right? Will it still be unlimited for phone use and tethering, albeit throttled? Even slow unlimited service plus tethering at $50 would be an absolute deal, and more so when I live .5 miles or so from a Clear WiMax tower.
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Thanks! I assume you mean they will raise the throttle threshold to 3.5gb, right? Will it still be unlimited for phone use and tethering, albeit throttled? Even slow unlimited service plus tethering at $50 would be an absolute deal, and more so when I live .5 miles or so from a Clear WiMax tower.
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