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Old July 2nd, 2013, 04:51 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Received a text from VM today about changes to the terms of service beginning 8/1/13. Text said to go to the website to read. Went to site and couldn't find anything about the changes. Anyone know what this is about?

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Old July 2nd, 2013, 04:57 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Did they include a link in the text, as they often do? If so, can you post it?
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Old July 2nd, 2013, 05:43 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Did they include a link in the text, as they often do? If so, can you post it?
Updated T&C's effective August 01, 2013

Current T&C's that took effect April 30, 2013

I didn't have time to go over all the changes closely, but a quick comparison of the old and new terms shows there are lots of wording refinements, especially in the Arbitration section.
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Read most of it but got too bored. Wonder what has changed?
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We may change any part of the Agreement at any time, including, but not limited to, rates, charges, how we calculate charges, discounts, coverage, technologies used to provide services, or your terms of Service.

Anyone know the URL of the old agreement?
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Anyone know the URL of the old agreement?
I edited my post above with links to both the current and the new T&C's.
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Old July 3rd, 2013, 01:06 PM   #8 (permalink)
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I saw something about Roaming. It said roaming may be within or outside of our network. Not sure if thats hinting anything.
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I saw something about Roaming. It said roaming may be within or outside of our network. Not sure if thats hinting anything.
The T&C's have included a roaming section for the last couple of years, if not longer. I wouldn't read anything into it.

I assume that they include that info to cover their back sides in situations where a network error allows a person's phone to roam onto another provider's network. It's not supposed to happen and usually doesn't, but if it does, the T&C's are in place.
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Updated T&C's effective August 01, 2013

Current T&C's that took effect April 30, 2013

I didn't have time to go over all the changes closely, but a quick comparison of the old and new terms shows there are lots of wording refinements, especially in the Arbitration section.

it also says that modifying the device, such as rooting, is not allowed. I dont, but they dont want you removing their apps. I just disable them/bloatware.
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it also says that modifying the device, such as rooting, is not allowed. I dont, but they dont want you removing their apps. I just disable them/bloatware.
I wouldn't worry about that. Carriers and manufacturers can't penalize users for rooting, ROMing since it is officially legal.
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I wouldn't worry about that. Carriers and manufacturers can't penalize users for rooting, ROMing since it is officially legal.
Their own terms & conditions can be more restrictive than the law; in fact that's the entire nature of having their own terms & conditions. That said, they'd be hurting themselves if they did enforce that strictly, so they won't.
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