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Old February 3rd, 2011, 10:00 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Default New Motorla Xoom, any hope for Cisco VPN client?

Seems to me, cisco is behind. I have a ton of employees who want to start using tablets like this new zoom to connect to a vpn and do work. Any move on this client? I need to connect to a VPN. No, I don't want to root a tablet.

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Or Citrix that works?
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Citrix is not a vpn. We use citrix, but we don't open the ports to the public. Much more secure.
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't there some VPN clients out there on Market? It wouldn't need to be a Cisco client to work over Cisco networks necessarially.

That being said, Cisco has a tablet of their own coming out some time so I'm not sure how motivated they are to design an Android VPN client.
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There are vpn clients, but not for a cisco router. The one that kind of worked out there, required root and you had to install a rom over it. I don't want to root my clients and void warranties. I would do this on my personal one, but not my clients.
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Citrix is not a vpn.
Ehh, that's not entirely true. While most are familiar with the use of Citrix for VDI, some of their new products like Netscaler and CAG are completely capable of acting as an SSL VPN similar to Cisco ASA or Juniper.
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Does Android come with any stock VPN clients? One that will connect to a firewall via PPTP? There's one on my iphone.

I'm still new to Android and looking at the Xoom.
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Sorry, I'm a little out of networking practice. But why would the client matter? All you need is a client that runs the right protocols. I imagine your routers are requiring IPSec?

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There are vpn clients, but not for a cisco router. The one that kind of worked out there, required root and you had to install a rom over it. I don't want to root my clients and void warranties. I would do this on my personal one, but not my clients.
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Does Android come with any stock VPN clients? One that will connect to a firewall via PPTP? There's one on my iphone.

I'm still new to Android and looking at the Xoom.
Yes, my Evo has support for PPTP, L2TP, and IPSEC VPNs.
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good luck, doesn't work.
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Yes, my Evo has support for PPTP, L2TP, and IPSEC VPNs.
Ok thanks. Have you used them before?

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good luck, doesn't work.
VPN doesn't work? None of those protocols? I'll be going into a WatchGuard firewall.

I did read about the DroidX I believe and having problems with VPN but from reading it seems like it was due to Verizon and some settings and you had to call and have them do something. Read it would work over wifi just not 3G until they called Verizon

I wonder will HoneyComb recognize AD-Hoc networks now, without having to do a hack.
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good luck, doesn't work.
Are you getting a reason for it not working? Like I said; you shouldn't need a Cisco produced client to VPN into a Cisco router or switch. You just need to be using the correct protocol.

Just look at my work computer; my company does a lowest bidder VPN client and it interfaces with our Cisco equipment just fine. I think there's another reason you can't get your phones to VPN in, and it has to do with the protocol stack.
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It doesn't work, because the IOS on my router doesn't support it. I'm running a 2811
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It doesn't work, because the IOS on my router doesn't support it. I'm running a 2811
Well then it sounds like your ISR needs an IOS upgrade, because the phones aren't your problem.
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This conversation is so much over my head I don't know what to say.
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Well then it sounds like your ISR needs an IOS upgrade, because the phones aren't your problem.
There is not an upgrade available right now.
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There is not an upgrade available right now.
Just curious. I imagine remote users for you can VPN back into your network yes? What client are you pushing out as part of your enterprise laptop image, and what protocol are you using to tunnel back into your enterprise network?

Edit: not trying to be difficult and I apologize if any of my posts have come across that way. Just trying to get you a solution to your issue.
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We use a VPN cisco client and then either RDP to the server or use citrix. I may try and get the citrix app to work since the vpn won't.
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To expand on exactly WHY Android native VPN app does not work. Cisco IPSEC VPN requires a Group ID/Password these days and although Android has IPSEC VPN it does not have the option for Group ID/Password so that is the reason it will not work. Its not a case of the user requiring an IOS update. Maybe an IOS downgrade back to before Group Password was used might work but you dont want to be doing that really
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Also the Anyconnect Android client will not appear anytime soon, Google will not allow that level of access to its OS that the client would require. So for the foreseeable future it will be only rooted devices that will be able to connect to modern Cisco ASA's and the like
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To expand on exactly WHY Android native VPN app does not work. Cisco IPSEC VPN requires a Group ID/Password these days and although Android has IPSEC VPN it does not have the option for Group ID/Password so that is the reason it will not work. Its not a case of the user requiring an IOS update. Maybe an IOS downgrade back to before Group Password was used might work but you dont want to be doing that really
Thanks for this post. I didn't realize that the Android VPN clients don't support the Group ID feature.
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Also the Anyconnect Android client will not appear anytime soon, Google will not allow that level of access to its OS that the client would require. So for the foreseeable future it will be only rooted devices that will be able to connect to modern Cisco ASA's and the like

Well that totally sucks....
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deal breaker. i'd be on my xoom right now if it weren't for this (patiently waiting for flash, willing to part with it for a couple weeks while they install 4G and SD card slot in the factory and bearing the slow dribble of tablet optimized apps... seriously!).
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Interim fix for Cisco coming in the for of an upgrade to IOS in April and full Anyconnect coming this summer.
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Interim fix for Cisco coming in the for of an upgrade to IOS in April and full Anyconnect coming this summer.
Says who? Link?
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That was from our REP and a Cisco Engineer, so no link. Some info here... https://supportforums.cisco.com/thread/2012285

Just saying... its not like its not going to happen. The Samsung Galaxy S II has the Cisco Anyconnect built in to it.

http://www.computerworlduk.com/news/mobile-wireless/3260863/samsung-galaxy-s-ii-boosts-business-features/
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Cool Cisco Anyconnect on the Horizon

Actually Cisco just released its own Android Tablet called the Cius
Found here: Cisco Cius - Products & Services - Cisco Systems

So I would assume that you will see a Cisco VPN Client for the Honeycomb OS relatively soon if it's not already on the release schedule. Citrix also has apps available for Honeycomb for the Citrix users in the house. My company uses both so I will need both. Looking forward to retiring my heavy Lenovo Laptop!

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Anybody know about a Juniper VPN client? On Mac and Linux the native one is a Java client. Never looked into in on my DroidX but I'm VERY interested for my Xoom. We switched from Cisco to Juniper at work.
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I use NCP secure client - no luck there either...

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Actually Cisco just released its own Android Tablet called the Cius
Found here: Cisco Cius - Products & Services - Cisco Systems

So I would assume that you will see a Cisco VPN Client for the Honeycomb OS relatively soon if it's not already on the release schedule. Citrix also has apps available for Honeycomb for the Citrix users in the house. My company uses both so I will need both. Looking forward to retiring my heavy Lenovo Laptop!

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I'll contact my rep about it. But if they are delaying because of this, it's one more failure by them.

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Any update on this?
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Google is the one holding up the show, not Cisco. Cisco needs access to a certain part of the android system and Google is dragging their feet on it.
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It better not happen before Issue 4706 is solved, so I wouldn't be too optimistic.
Issue 4706 - android - Droid phone PPTP VPN dying after a short while. - Android - An Open Handset Alliance Project - Google Project Hosting
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Google is the one holding up the show, not Cisco. Cisco needs access to a certain part of the android system and Google is dragging their feet on it.
how do you know this?
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do you happen to know what part of the OS cisco needs to access? an anyconnect client on the xoom would be perfect and i hate waiting.
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anyconnect sucks but hey I'll take anything at this point
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Anybody know about a Juniper VPN client? On Mac and Linux the native one is a Java client. Never looked into in on my DroidX but I'm VERY interested for my Xoom. We switched from Cisco to Juniper at work.
Yes, Juniper PULSE works on Andriod (and iOS devices), it's Juniper's client-based SSL VPN app.

For those that think Google is holding back on something that Cisco needs in the Android OS, either Cisco is doing it wrong, or whoever told you that is misinformed.
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anyconnect sucks but hey I'll take anything at this point
Anyconnect for Windows doesn't connect to my IPSEC VPN at work. I'm going to assume the same holds true for the android client until I hear otherwise
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Anybody know about a Juniper VPN client? On Mac and Linux the native one is a Java client. Never looked into in on my DroidX but I'm VERY interested for my Xoom. We switched from Cisco to Juniper at work.
After speaking with our Juniper rep, they are trying to work with Google to get a Pulse client up and running. Unfortunately Google isn't as open as Apple with their API's for this. Hoping to hear better news from them soon (I asked to be put on their beta).
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Thanks for that. I'm increasingly disappointed that here it is June and not only do we not have a Cisco VPN client, but no working SD-Card or 4G. Given that and the continuing niggling issues with my DroidX, I'm pretty close to done with Motorola.
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Doesn't matter anymore. Microsoft windows 8 will kill the tablet market for for droid. No more waiting on apps to get supported because everything will work out of the box. Bye bye xoom.
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Doesn't matter anymore. Microsoft windows 8 will kill the tablet market for for droid. No more waiting on apps to get supported because everything will work out of the box. Bye bye xoom.

ROFL, I'll believe that when I see it.

Windows always works right out of the box, right?
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Exclamation SSL L3 Enterprise VPN on Android

We need enterprise VPN support on Android.

WHY NO ENTERPRISE VPN SUPPORT???? - Google Mobile Help
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Any connect is now on the market. I heard you need mobile licenses for it to work. Lame.
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Thumbs down No ssl l3 support without rooting

Cisco Annyconnect and Junos Pulse are available, but neither will function correctly (SSL L3) without rooting and running as superuser. Which will probably void warranty.
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