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Default Zenithink ZT-180 1GHz 10" tablet

I Figured I should start a Thread for this tablet since it didn't have one just for the Zenithink.

I searched the forum and it was mentioned in 5 threads but nothing just for the tablet itself.

I pre-ordered one of these from Merimobiles HERE I really like the specs for it and I talked to a few devs about it and they said it was a really nice tablet as long as it worked like it should.

This is the information on the website.
Shipping
***PRE ORDER***ONLY Expected to ship around august 1st
Product
ZT-180 1GHz processor 10" tablet Android 2.1
Warranty
1 Year, click here for detailsCPU
1GHz ZT-180 CPU
OS
Android 2.1
Memory
2GB Nandflash, DDR 256MB
Supports micro sd card up to 32GB

Screen
10.2 in high quality Resistive Touch Screen
Resolution: 1024*600 pixels
Audio
Built in stereo speakers
3.5mm earphones
Built in Microphone
WAV playback, WMA playback
Video
MP4 1080 P AVI (XVID, H.263, DIVX)

Features and highlights
  • Android 2.1
  • Android apps
  • Word viewer
  • (no access to google market, but you can get unlimited free apps on many android related webistes since its open source)
  • Instant messenger with support for QQ、MSN、Fetion、Google Talk protocals
  • Full featured Web browser, Receive and send email
  • Powerpoint Viewer
  • PDF Viewer
  • Ebook Reader
  • WIFI
  • USB port
  • 1 Way USB 2.0 Host interface
  • Support OTG mouse
  • 3D games
  • support many langauges
  • DC in
  • Mic In
  • Earphone
  • RJ-45
  • SD/MMC
  • 3* USB2.0 hos port
Battery
  • Built-in 2400mAH, 7.4 Li-ion battery
  • 5-7 hours standby time
Now lets compare this to the Ipad.

iPad
Operating System iOS
Weight 680g/730g
Dimensions 242.8 x 189.7 x 13.4
Processor 1GHz Cortex A8
RAM 256MB
3G Optional
Video PowerVR SGX 535 GPU
Screen Capacitive LED
Wifi b/g/n
Bluetooth 2.1
Screen Size 9.7" 1024x768 (4:3)
Rotation Accelerometer 3-axis
USB Via dock only
Ethernet Via dock only
TV-out Via dock only
Camera none
AVG Batt life video without wifi or 3g (10h)
Storage 16GB 32GB or 64GB
Card reader none
Speakers mono speakers
Base Price $499.99 $599.99 $699.99

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Well lets hope that this tablet is just as good as they say it will be.

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I was looking all over the place for one with 2.1, Did you have to pay up front for the pre-order?
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I was looking all over the place for one with 2.1, Did you have to pay up front for the pre-order?
Yeah but the ship date was set for monday Aug 2nd with a 3 to 5 day shipping so I will have it within 2 weeks.
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I recently bought one of these from here (Wholesale android 2.1 tablet Product-Fine Epad Tablet PC 10 inch Android 2.1 1GHz 256MB Mid UMPC Wifi HD Film)
It shipped today so hopefully I will get it early next week.

All I have to do now is find a way to tether my phone to it, hopefully there will be a solution soon... Ill update when I get the apad
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Hey, it's the wiipad, too!
Yeah WiiPad Neno ordered the base tablet from Zenithink and they are selling them too but I picked Merimobiles because when I tried to contact the company for WiiPad Neno they never replied.
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I recently bought one of these from here (Wholesale android 2.1 tablet Product-Fine Epad Tablet PC 10 inch Android 2.1 1GHz 256MB Mid UMPC Wifi HD Film)
It shipped today so hopefully I will get it early next week.

All I have to do now is find a way to tether my phone to it, hopefully there will be a solution soon... Ill update when I get the apad
What phone do you use?
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What phone do you use?
Hero with Villan 10.2 rom
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What the hell - never noticed the price. They are severely marking this up...
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I recently bought one of these from here (Wholesale android 2.1 tablet Product-Fine Epad Tablet PC 10 inch Android 2.1 1GHz 256MB Mid UMPC Wifi HD Film)
It shipped today so hopefully I will get it early next week.

All I have to do now is find a way to tether my phone to it, hopefully there will be a solution soon... Ill update when I get the apad

Make sure you post a review here when you get it and try it out. I am interested in this device. Battery life mainly.
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For all my Phone rom needs I go to sdx developers but there are a few sites out there to choose from.
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yeah thats the old review when the tablet was first announced not bad but I will post a new one when I get my tablet in a few weeks.
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yeah thats the old review when the tablet was first announced not bad but I will post a new one when I get my tablet in a few weeks.
I hope you get the second (new) batch, with the "new" wifi module that slatedroid talked about. The original batch had wifi overheating problems when used w/ Android, though they worked w/ CE. I have no idea how to differentiate between these batches.
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I hope you get the second (new) batch, with the "new" wifi module that slatedroid talked about. The original batch had wifi overheating problems when used w/ Android, though they worked w/ CE. I have no idea how to differentiate between these batches.
I think this should be the new batch because its a pre-order for the Aug 2nd shipment.
And from what I read on slatedroid it was WinCE version that overheated.
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I ordered one directly from Shenzhen and just received a tracking number today. If all goes well I should have it by the end of the week.

Has anyone on this thread actually seen one or is it all just speculation at this point? The specs seem good so I'm hoping for the best.

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Can I use a bluetooth dongle with this machine? I would love to connect it to a bluetooth GPS or printer.
Anybody know?

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Can I use a bluetooth dongle with this machine? I would love to connect it to a bluetooth GPS or printer.
Anybody know?

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I don't have my tablet yet but when I get it I will let you know
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When I get this what do you want me to review first?
Also we can chat live on IRC at irc.freenode.net /join #AndroidTablets if you want to contact me about my review I will be doing.
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When I get this what do you want me to review first?
Also we can chat live on IRC at irc.freenode.net /join #AndroidTablets if you want to contact me about my review I will be doing.
OK. I am expecting mine to arrive in the next week or so. I want to use mine with a 3g modem if possible as well as a printer.

Maybe if the machine is a large seller someone with android technical expertise could set up a user website dedicated to this device.

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I am looking for buy a tablet.I think maybe the Zenithink tablet is best candidate rightnow. I read a review about the 10.2" tablet.Who have bought the tablet.Would you mind give me some feedback.I wanna have a device like as iPad,But i would rather chooose android sysyem.I like google.

Now i know the androidtime's price is lowest.It is just 219USD.and will send a free Solor Portable Power.It is very attractive.Who have bought from this store.androidtime androidtime.com/shop/
Is it trustworthy?It looks a bit professional.
Looks a bit fishy to me a lot of small mistakes in the english and on the site <example: the Blog button says Bolg and small things like that.> its probably a chinese site trying to sell to us residents.
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Default youtube review of the ZT-180.

Shanzai.com have just posted an early review today of the zt-180.
No real technical details yet about it's connectivity, but it looks good.

YouTube - Second look at the Zenithink ZT-180 ePad...next to Apple's iPad

It is a bit thicker than the iPad and is called the ePad with a Microsoft Internet Explorer looking logo on boot up.
It seems to play movies well in realplayer.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3thgFZli0A

YouTube - Second look at the Zenithink ZT-180 ePad...next to Apple's iPad

This is both videos of the Zenithink so far.

In the second video he uses a real player app he installed to watch the file but it will have its own player loaded when it ships
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I have one. It's amazing on the current Android 2.1. It performs perfectly. I have a usb stick full of PDFs for work, so I just plugged it in and was able to play each of them on a crystal clear screen. portrait is not perfect, because the wise screen is wider than the page and the current apps will not scroll between pages (one page at a time), but in landscape mode it is very nice. I loaded huge 50MB PDFs that loadedquickly and scrolled smoothly.

Battery life is a little concern, as it seems to fall fast, but nothing like the <1hour horror stories I've been reading. (I have the screen on retina burning high levels which is very clear, but glossy.) The android config is not perfect to begin with. GPS is left on for some reason, when there is no GPS software.

I'll try some apps and the internet tonight. But very good at the moment.
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I have one. It's amazing on the current Android 2.1. It performs perfectly. I have a usb stick full of PDFs for work, so I just plugged it in and was able to play each of them on a crystal clear screen. portrait is not perfect, because the wise screen is wider than the page and the current apps will not scroll between pages (one page at a time), but in landscape mode it is very nice. I loaded huge 50MB PDFs that loadedquickly and scrolled smoothly.

Battery life is a little concern, as it seems to fall fast, but nothing like the <1hour horror stories I've been reading. (I have the screen on retina burning high levels which is very clear, but glossy.) The android config is not perfect to begin with. GPS is left on for some reason, when there is no GPS software.

I'll try some apps and the internet tonight. But very good at the moment.
where do you have bye it?
because shanzai writes

"this video of the Zenithink ZT-180 iPad needs to be prefaced with some background information. Firstly this product is not yet available on the market and the device we have on hand is a pre-production sample not a finished product. We pushed hard to get a hold of this device because we think itís an excellent example of the potential of what the shanzhai iPad killer products can be like.


Our contacts through to Zenithink have let us know that there are also software updates on the way very soon for this product and when its offered for sale it will include the updated software. That being said, after our first look at the tablet we didnít want to disappoint you and not take a little deeper look at the ZT-180, so we hope youíll enjoy the video below:"
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I got it from jiongtang shop for $180 US. It was the first round, so it is probably pre-production. How can you tell? If you go to ??????? ZT-180|Android|MID|????|????? - Powered by Discuz! you will find lots of people who have it already and brought it from the local market.

Let me know if there is anything you want to check?
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I got it from jiongtang shop for $180 US. It was the first round, so it is probably pre-production. How can you tell? If you go to ??????? ZT-180|Android|MID|????|????? - Powered by Discuz! you will find lots of people who have it already and brought it from the local market.

Let me know if there is anything you want to check?

ok. i have ordered here Wholesale-Strong Epad Tablet PC 10 inch Android 2.1 1GHz 256MB Mid UMPC Wifi HD Film
Products Status:Stockbut im not so happy when i get a prototype
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I have one. It's amazing on the current Android 2.1. It performs perfectly. I have a usb stick full of PDFs for work, so I just plugged it in and was able to play each of them on a crystal clear screen. portrait is not perfect, because the wise screen is wider than the page and the current apps will not scroll between pages (one page at a time), but in landscape mode it is very nice. I loaded huge 50MB PDFs that loadedquickly and scrolled smoothly.

Battery life is a little concern, as it seems to fall fast, but nothing like the <1hour horror stories I've been reading. (I have the screen on retina burning high levels which is very clear, but glossy.) The android config is not perfect to begin with. GPS is left on for some reason, when there is no GPS software.

I'll try some apps and the internet tonight. But very good at the moment.
icurafu - I am interested in a few features of the tablet and current software on android. i have never used android at all (not even on a phone) so i dont know what the apps are like. can you check some of these things for me? (and the tablet/android enthusiasts on the internet

1. measure realistic battery life under general usages (PDF reading, web/email usage, video playing, music playing)
2. what are display brightness controls like? I am interested in using the screen at a minimal brightness to not distract others when sitting in meetings. i guess i'm asking, how discreet can the device be? does the screen glow make it stick out or can it be set down low and still be usable? also how does screen brightness affect battery life?
3. what is the PDF software on android like? can you open and "edit" pdfs on it? by edit I mean, can you highlight text, add notes to pdfs etc. like you can with FoxIt Reader on WinX platforms?

also i am wondering, is there any android emulators out there that i could run android OS under Win7 and get some apps and check them out?
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LCD brightness is the major contributor to battery life. You have a slider in setting that goes from very bright to very dull.

I'll test the battery life some tonight, but it wont be exhaustive.

PDFs are fairly standard. No editing and very minimal controls such as expand to width or height. I'll have a look for some more PDF readers, because this is the main reason I brought mine.
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I would be VERY surprised if you can EDIT a PDF, that pretty proprietary information and has some stff overhead. If you just want to highlight text that probably could be available.

there is an Android LIVECD floating around of version 1.6. I have the ISO loaded here on my work desktop as a virtual machine in Virtualbox, and have tried the same thing at home in linux and windows.

check here:

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First post is a link to pre-order the tablet.
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icurafu- U siad u actually have one of these. Out of the box did everything work in terms of Android Market, Gmail, ect.. Just basic functions working okay? and none of it was in chiness was it? Im about to order one and just wanted some feed back on it thanks
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google services such as news, gmail rss, yes... market place, no. Like most tablets, at this stage you will need to use one of the alternatives.

All in English. Actually, it is kinda funny. Chinese users were complaining about the WinCE firmware showing Chinese chars as squares in some menus, so it seems they are targeting a primary English firmware.

Compatibility is ok. There are plenty of apps I load that don't work. But I think a few more work than my SmartQ V7. Annoyingly it does not full screen apps as often as the V7. The accelerometer works great for auto rotate, but unusable for games.

I'm happy to answer any other questions. I'm really glad that the Android firmware has improved things. But still there are bugs, so this isn't perfection. I've been resetting my zt180 atleast once every 40 minutes due to crashes when loading apps... some take it to a black screen of death. Hopefully compatability will fix this.
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google services such as news, gmail rss, yes... market place, no. Like most tablets, at this stage you will need to use one of the alternatives.

All in English. Actually, it is kinda funny. Chinese users were complaining about the WinCE firmware showing Chinese chars as squares in some menus, so it seems they are targeting a primary English firmware.

Compatibility is ok. There are plenty of apps I load that don't work. But I think a few more work than my SmartQ V7. Annoyingly it does not full screen apps as often as the V7. The accelerometer works great for auto rotate, but unusable for games.

I'm happy to answer any other questions. I'm really glad that the Android firmware has improved things. But still there are bugs, so this isn't perfection. I've been resetting my zt180 atleast once every 40 minutes due to crashes when loading apps... some take it to a black screen of death. Hopefully compatability will fix this.
Yeah I am really hoping compatibility will deal with this. Especially where I don't know exactly what I am getting. I guess I will have to see within a few weeks.

I have a good feeling about the development around this tablet. I think a lot will be done from a developers stand point to get this thing running smooth over time.
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I'm having a good feeling as well. This is a well done firmware for completely fresh silicon. And the performance of browsing is better than anything I've seen on a MID.

From another forum, I heard that Android marketplace works, so I'll have to hunt down the APK file and give it a go.

I've posted a list of bugs I found in the jiongtang forums.
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I order mine today should be reciving it late next week atleast i hope... Ill start posting my finding as they come.

Does the wifi work okay? no signal issue at all? as far as it being week. Does it support multi touch? how about flash even though i know it native to 2.2 so i doubt it.

What im confused about is there a website or some fourms i should be keeping watch on for updates? This is my first tablet so kind of new to this but im great with working with the android phones.

Thanks for the heads up on everything..
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I'm having a good feeling as well. This is a well done firmware for completely fresh silicon. And the performance of browsing is better than anything I've seen on a MID.

From another forum, I heard that Android marketplace works, so I'll have to hunt down the APK file and give it a go.

I've posted a list of bugs I found in the jiongtang forums.
icurafu,I'm looking for a 10" android tablet for my mother to use as a e-reader with the Kindle app. This looks promising, do you know if font size is adjustable on these or any others? Or is any font adjustment controlled by the apps?
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icurafu,I'm looking for a 10" android tablet for my mother to use as a e-reader with the Kindle app. This looks promising, do you know if font size is adjustable on these or any others? Or is any font adjustment controlled by the apps?
Can you point me to the kindle app? I'll check it out.

Kindles are great for ebooks because they have e-ink screens. much nicer on the eyes for lots of reading.
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Can you point me to the kindle app? I'll check it out.

Kindles are great for ebooks because they have e-ink screens. much nicer on the eyes for lots of reading.
It's a featured app in the Android Market.
The kindle is nice and the price on a new one dropped to $139 but my mom is 75 and it's a little small. The DX is $379 at 9.7"
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ok,

Step 1, get Android market place working.

Step 2, install Kindle.

You can atleast increase the find on the user interface, and you can bring faviout apps to the home screen to make it easier for someone who does not want to bother with menus.
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I've just ordered this tablet and should receive it next week.

@icurafu can you please confirm how is WiFi working (does it have a good range?) and how the keyboard looks like and if it's efficient for typing i.e. MSN or I will need an external keyboard for messengers?
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can you look
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Wholesale 10inch MID handheld pc ZT 180 with Android 2.1 OS Tablet PC 1GHz 256MB RAM Laptop free shipping
there is a picture with the android version etc

is this the same as yours? t i hink this is not the finished version
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will update the software via OTA?
Or its better to wait until merimobiles has the finished version?
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can you look
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there is a picture with the android version etc

is this the same as yours? t i hink this is not the finished version
Mine is a different Android. Looks similar, but no dot indicators for the selected screen and English by default.

I compared my benchmark results against a sample version and the CPU scores have been vastly improved on mine. So has the filesystem and memory card by a smaller margin. The graphics rating is decreased slightly.

I'll compare version when I get back, but the version in that URL is from the 8th of July. Mine was new when they sent it out on Monday. So it has top be atleast the 20s.
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They wont do OTA because it doesn't have 3G access so they might relase it online.
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They wont do OTA because it doesn't have 3G access so they might relase it online.
oh ok sorry thats right.
online?! whether they make this really, iīm not so sure.
I Think i wait and bye it at merimobiles..
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OK, I have my hands on one, just in from China,
Its a great new machine, much more responsive than my M003, it in a totally different league, but I can`t get my Wi-Fi to hook up, It finds my wireless router just fine reports a strong signal but wont lock in and then reports no signal and thats it. Might be a problem here, but I`m no expert, I will try playing around with it a bit ( I`ve got it on my cable network which is ok )
I did what I did with my M003 to connect the wi-fi, and my M003 locked in immediately.
Anybody with any ideas.... please let me know !.
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mine works with WPA2 AES encryption with a shared secret.
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can you look
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there is a picture with the android version etc

is this the same as yours? t i hink this is not the finished version
Hey, I have the same everything as in the screen informationscreen shot.

Mine is root@zenithink #1467
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OK, Using WPA/WPA2 ( and a different router ) have now got a signal and link.
The range inside before the signal failed was around 10m, moving back into range it did not automatically find the wi-fi again, I had to turn in the Wi-Fi settings, the top entry " Wi_Fi" off and on again, and then it linked up again.
( So thats a relief !! )
( Still playing with this new device )
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