Stylus for Hero

[Monkey]

Hi All,

Does a Stylus come with the Hero in the Box and does one even work
with the Hero as I have not read anywhere about one of those
you know?

Peace,
Andrew.

 

[Carl C]

Hey Andrew

A stylus will not work with the HTC Hero due to the Screen {It works on the Magnetism from your body not pressure from an object} , However I'm sure I seen a patent in the News months ago about HTC Developing one which may work with these type of screens so theirs hope yet

Carl

 

[Monkey]

Thank you Carl, I see you are Fast becoming My Hero Guru
you know.
I guess my Packet of Pork Sausage Fingers will have to
Muddle through then, LOL.

Peace,
Andrew.

Hey Andrew

A stylus will not work with the HTC Hero due to the Screen {It works on the Magnetism from your body not pressure from an object} , However I'm sure I seen a patent in the News months ago about HTC Developing one which may work with these type of screens so theirs hope yet

Carl

 

[Carl C]

thank you carl, i see you are fast becoming my hero guru
you know.
i guess my packet of pork sausage fingers will have to
muddle through then, lol.

Peace,
andrew.

lol

That dreaded Pork sausage finger syndrome

 

[hmadsen]

If you want an android htc with stylus possibility you could go for the htc tatoo .

It has a resistive screen that will work with a stylus.

Also the statement that it works on magnetism is wrong.

Here is what wikipedia says about the capacitive touch screen that the hero uses.

Projected capacitance

Projected Capacitive Touch (PCT) technology is a capacitive technology which permits more accurate and flexible operation, by etching the conductive layer. An XY array is formed either by etching a single layer to form a grid pattern of electrodes, or by etching two separate, perpendicular layers of conductive material with parallel lines or tracks to form the grid (comparable to the pixel grid found in many LCD displays).
Applying voltage to the array creates a grid of capacitors. Bringing a finger or conductive stylus close to the surface of the sensor changes the local electrostatic field. The capacitance change at every individual point on the grid can be measured to accurately determine the touch location.[5] The use of a grid permits a higher resolution than resistive technology and also allows multi-touch operation. The greater resolution of PCT allows operation without direct contact, such that the conducting layers can be coated with further protective insulating layers, and operate even under screen protectors, or behind weather and vandal-proof glass.
PCT is used in a wide range of applications including point of sale systems, smartphones, and public information kiosks. Visual Planet's ViP Interactive Foil is an example of a kiosk PCT product, where a gloved hand can register a touch on a sensor surface through a glass window.[6] Examples of consumer devices using projected capacitive touchscreens include Apple Inc.'s iPhone and iPod Touch, HTC's G1, and HTC Hero, Motorola's Droid, Palm Inc.'s Palm Pre and Palm Pixi and more recently the LG KM900 Arena, Microsoft's Zune HD, SonyWalkman X series, Sony Ericsson's Aino and now Vidalco's Edge, D1 and Jewel phones.

Hmadsen

 

[Monkey]

Hi hmadsen,
Thank you for your Quality reply, it was just a query about a Stylus,
I will be getting my Hero on Tuesday (Cant Wait) so I am already
sorted.
I was just wondering if the Hero was in anyway like say the Viewty,
Obviously Not.

Peace,
Andrew.

If you want an android htc with stylus possibility you could go for the htc tatoo .

It has a resistive screen that will work with a stylus.

Also the statement that it works on magnetism is wrong.

Here is what wikipedia says about the capacitive touch screen that the hero uses.

Projected capacitance

Projected Capacitive Touch (PCT) technology is a capacitive technology which permits more accurate and flexible operation, by etching the conductive layer. An XY array is formed either by etching a single layer to form a grid pattern of electrodes, or by etching two separate, perpendicular layers of conductive material with parallel lines or tracks to form the grid (comparable to the pixel grid found in many LCD displays).
Applying voltage to the array creates a grid of capacitors. Bringing a finger or conductive stylus close to the surface of the sensor changes the local electrostatic field. The capacitance change at every individual point on the grid can be measured to accurately determine the touch location.[5] The use of a grid permits a higher resolution than resistive technology and also allows multi-touch operation. The greater resolution of PCT allows operation without direct contact, such that the conducting layers can be coated with further protective insulating layers, and operate even under screen protectors, or behind weather and vandal-proof glass.
PCT is used in a wide range of applications including point of sale systems, smartphones, and public information kiosks. Visual Planet's ViP Interactive Foil is an example of a kiosk PCT product, where a gloved hand can register a touch on a sensor surface through a glass window.[6] Examples of consumer devices using projected capacitive touchscreens include Apple Inc.'s iPhone and iPod Touch, HTC's G1, and HTC Hero, Motorola's Droid, Palm Inc.'s Palm Pre and Palm Pixi and more recently the LG KM900 Arena, Microsoft's Zune HD, SonyWalkman X series, Sony Ericsson's Aino and now Vidalco's Edge, D1 and Jewel phones.

Hmadsen

 

[keithwright]

You 'can' get a stylus of sorts for the Hero as i got one myself off of Ebay,
It is ok but a bit fiddly.

There are videos on YouTube of it

 

[quantumrand]

Do a search for "capacitive stylus." There are already several styli out there that are made for capacitive touch screens.

 

[mez]

ive used the same stylus that you can buy for the ipod touch /iphone, they work well. no real problems but i wouldnt buy it.

its handy this time of year tho

 

[Bøygen]

ThinkGeek :: Pogo Sketch iPhone/MacBook Stylus

This should work with the Hero.
But there is really no need for it, your pork sausages will work just fine

 

[Caddyman]

there was a thread just locked asking about a stylus for winter, they actually sell gloves that have a weak spot in 1 finger so you can still use your capacitive touch screen with them on....

Capacitive Touchscreen Gloves -- Engadget

or google capacitive gloves

 

[Quazar]

there was a thread just locked asking about a stylus for winter, they actually sell gloves that have a weak spot in 1 finger so you can still use your capacitive touch screen with them on....

Capacitive Touchscreen Gloves -- Engadget

or google capacitive gloves

Hey, that thread was mine! The glove thing is really cool but not something I would bother with, I bought a stylus off ebay, I'll see how those work!
Thanks for the heads up though

 

[Quazar]

I bought an iPhone stylus, which only worked when I pressed down on the screen really hard, so I ditched that and bought a Dagi Stylus, which looks like it will be really good, I'll let everyone know what its like on the hero when it arrives.

 

[98clru]

I'm guessing you are having problems with misread strokes on the virtual keypad. I had actually returned a hero for a moment for that reason.

I found on the virtual keyboard a gear on the lower left. That will get you into the keyboard settings. One of the choices for the keyboard is a "compact qwerty" keyboard. I don't think it's any more compact but it puts 2 characters on a single key like the blackberry pearl. This doubles the size of the target key making a mistype much less likely. Use the t9 option and it will automatically figure out which of the 2 possible characters you probably meant and is much more accurate than using my fat fingers!

It doesn't work on the landscape mode and unfortunately not all functions support it but messaging and web browsing does and that's what I use most.

This is NOT available on the moment so I think it's a sense UI thing. It's briefly mentioned in the user guide but should be the default in my opinion on the portrait mode.

Now if they could only get a Dvorak keyboard with a "compact" format to work with the hero....

 

[lekky]

Use t9 with the full qwerty keyboard. Its amazingly accurate, even though i don't think i ever hit the right character!

 

[Quazar]

The full QWERTY keyboard is the best for me, since T9 always predicts words, its annoying when you want to use a non dictionary word. With the full keyboard, this isn't an issue, you can just type in the word and add it to the dictionary. I rarely get the wrong word, considering I hit the wrong letters all the time too!

Also, I only need a stylus for then I'm wearing gloves during winter months. Otherwise fingers work fine. I will give a short review of the Dagi stylus here whenever, I got mine from ebay: eBay Seller: base327111: Mobile Home Phones items on eBay.co.uk

 

[98clru]

I don't think I made my point well. You are currently using t9 well with the standard qwerty keyboard. I'm assuming the stylus request was to improve beyond what you can do with fingers on the standard qwerty.

This is not a multitap procress. The "compact" qwerty basically doubles the size of each key making the t9 much more accurate for finger strokes. It does this by doing away with the spaces between 1/2 the keys. Makes the t9 work 2x as hard but it seems to be up to it.

The only down side is the symbols you need to shift screens for but the numbers are easier.

From page 18 of the us user guide (28 in pdf out of 155)
Compact QWERTY
Compact QWERTY is a type of keyboard which features 20 keys. With its large, touch-friendly keys and
enhanced features such as T9 predictive input, you can enter text faster and more accurately.

 

[98clru]

The full QWERTY keyboard is the best for me, since T9 always predicts words, its annoying when you want to use a non dictionary word. With the full keyboard, this isn't an issue, you can just type in the word and add it to the dictionary. I rarely get the wrong word, considering I hit the wrong letters all the time too!

Also, I only need a stylus for then I'm wearing gloves during winter months. Otherwise fingers work fine. I will give a short review of the Dagi stylus here whenever, I got mine from ebay...

Dictionary works the same with the compact qwerty. I've lived in Florida for the last 15 years, forgot about glove issues.

 

[Quazar]

Try coming to britain, can get really cold at night/morning when in winter, and winter lasts ages here

The QWERTY keyboard works for me so I stick with it.

 

[Quazar]

I got my Dagi Stylus, it works really well, very responsive. The only problem is I discovered loads of scratches on the screen! Good thing I have a disposable screen protector on it! Contacted seller about this issue.

 

[98clru]

My son has a year old G1. No noticable scratches on it and he is hard on cellphones. I've had several palm and treos, never used a screen saver, never had an issue.
Just make sure the screen isn't full of dust and dirt B4 use. If you have an old palm or treo,etc you might want to see if this stylus would damage the actual screen.

 

[Quazar]

Seller said that it wouldn't scratch the screen of the HTC Hero since screen hardness is 7H and the stylus material is 1H. I was using a screen protector which is why I discovered a lot of scratches on the screen. Also seller is very cooperative, would reccomend the Dagi stylus. Its suprisingly responsive, but nothing is as good as using hands.