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Root Is Anyone Working on Rooting?

The phone just came out 19 days ago, and is not one of the heavily hyped Android phones like the Droid. You have to expect that it's going to have less attention paid to it.

I'll be looking forward to rooting, but in the meantime I do enjoy using the 1.5 interface. Besides rooting, I'll be looking forward to 1.6 or 2.0 updates from Samsung / Sprint as well.
 
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In another thread I asked how likely we all think that rooting will happen in a reasonable amount of time... I guess it bears asking in this one as well.

Unfortunately due to the very small fan base for the moment (at least as far as I've seen), my level of confidence is less than optimal. How do you all feel?
 
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I am pretty confident that it won't be much longer than the Hero did. I think there are many on here and other forums that came from rooted phones and so they will hopefully continue to try to root this one as well.

i agree. i think a majority of us on here would like to have full access to the moment, it is only a measure of time. the hero just got rooted a couple weeks ago, and that took nearly a month.

LincKraker: what you're asking for is instant gratification from a product just released two weeks ago. if you scour the moment forums, you'll discover that numerous people have attempted old rooting methods with no avail. let's give these same individuals time to find the correct method. in this situation, patience is a virtue.
 
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Is there any reason the manufacturers wouldn't allow rooting by default out of the box as a feature?

I've often wondered something similar. Depending on the carrier, I could see them not wanting users to have root access, as it would allow the phone owners to circumvent anything that's locked out (such as GPS without paying for it, tethering, etc.)... but in Sprint's case, don't the required plans for this phone already offer access to all those features? In this particular case, I'm really not sure what the big deal is about a user rooting their phone in Sprint or Samsung's mind... they could just very easily say that it voids your warranty so if you do it, you don't get punished... but if something goes wrong, you're SOL.
 
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Root is generally bad for the manufacturers / carriers....by enabling root access, any rogue program running as root can esentially hose the whole phone. It's basic UNIX security - root is all powerful.

Not to mention, allowing root to something like a tethering program takes the ability to control that service out of the carriers hands, who might want to charge a premium for a service. Sure, they'll allow you unlimited data from your handset - but granting you access to turn your device into a WiFi router is another service all together. Both VZ and Sprint offer specific, non-phone devices targeted for that purpose - with their own, seperate data plans. By allowing users to use any device as a WiFi router, they significantly hamper their ability to sell, and make money of the devices they've built for that purpose alone.

That said, if the carrier puts out a program that enables a WiFi router capability on your phone - they will want to be able to track and charge for the use of that service.

It's all about making $ :)

Thus - "rooting" voids warranties...

(Don't get me wrong, i'm still gonna root mine as soon as someone figures out how)
 
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Root is generally bad for the manufacturers / carriers....by enabling root access, any rogue program running as root can esentially hose the whole phone. It's basic UNIX security - root is all powerful.

Not to mention, allowing root to something like a tethering program takes the ability to control that service out of the carriers hands, who might want to charge a premium for a service. Sure, they'll allow you unlimited data from your handset - but granting you access to turn your device into a WiFi router is another service all together. Both VZ and Sprint offer specific, non-phone devices targeted for that purpose - with their own, seperate data plans. By allowing users to use any device as a WiFi router, they significantly hamper their ability to sell, and make money of the devices they've built for that purpose alone.

That said, if the carrier puts out a program that enables a WiFi router capability on your phone - they will want to be able to track and charge for the use of that service.

It's all about making $ :)

Thus - "rooting" voids warranties...

(Don't get me wrong, i'm still gonna root mine as soon as someone figures out how)

dth4310 is right on the money on this one. we as a growing community of smart phone users may want more control over our phone, and it could get to the point where the majority expects this type of control (as seen here from former g1 users and other rootable devices like the pre), but in terms of products liability, a company needs to protect their interest or they could potentially face claims of dtpa violations and other less savory lawsuits. thus, if a device fails as a result of the user modifying their device, these companies are able to walk off with clean hands.
 
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Thus - "rooting" voids warranties...

(Don't get me wrong, i'm still gonna root mine as soon as someone figures out how)


Considering this, I pay the insurance fee (also because this is a much more complicated phone than previous flip phones). If I root it and it dies, then I can always just say it fell in the toilet. Or drop it in the toilet.
 
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If anyone remembers, there was a recent iPhone worm that attacked iPhones that had been jailbroken and had SSH installed without changing the default password. Luckily it was a proof-of-concept hack and the worm didn't do anything malicious, but it did spread and it did so fairly easily.

A lot of people rooting/jailbreaking their phones know nothing about system administration and just follow step-by-step instructions without understanding why they're doing something or the implications of doing it.

Okay, Sprint doesn't want me to be able to remove their SprintTv and NFL apps. But they also don't want me to open up attack vectors for some hacker to phown me.
 
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i'm not looking for instant gratification. i'm trying to find out if anyone is working on getting the phone rooted. i'm not even sure if i'm going to root my phone once it is rooted. but from what i can tell not a single person is trying to get root on the phone. which means its going to happen anytime soon. what i'm trying to do is show everyone that its going to be alot longer than the hero to get rooted.
 
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i'm not looking for instant gratification. i'm trying to find out if anyone is working on getting the phone rooted. i'm not even sure if i'm going to root my phone once it is rooted. but from what i can tell not a single person is trying to get root on the phone. which means its going to happen anytime soon. what i'm trying to do is show everyone that its going to be alot longer than the hero to get rooted.

I would like to know this as well, because I would like to lend whatever help if any i could to the cause -

I am not a linux n00b , I make my living on Open Source software.

Buhler?
 
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