I was Holding my Breath - For This??

[gunny5821]

OK, I bought the Captivate on Aug 3rd, which gives me 30 days to try it out and see if it is a fit for me. Since I was coming from the Blackberry world and was bored and blue, needing something to do, I jumped ship and went to the Android, specifically the Samsung Captivate. I have not been experiencing any of the glitchs some have reported, but have experienced the email Huge Problem, but that has already been determined to be a Android OS problem, no fault of the Captivate. So I was holding out till today to see how the Torch with 6.0 OS would hit the streets. I thought for sure it would hit at $199.99 or more with a new 2 year contract, but NO, it is only $99.99. So what is the deal??

Well at this juncture, the Captivate is staying with me and me with it. I see no reason to leave a phone that has this much going for it only to throw all of that away and basically stepp back into the year 2007 with the Torch. The hardware is such a disappointment. I sure people will definately buy them, especially at that price. But once they see how little it impresses, there going to be returning them faster than they bought them.. I wish BB well, but I see the curtain coming down in the future, and not to distant..

My 2 cents!

Gunny

 

[Chief714]

OK, I bought the Captivate on Aug 3rd, which gives me 30 days to try it out and see if it is a fit for me. Since I was coming from the Blackberry world and was bored and blue, needing something to do, I jumped ship and went to the Android, specifically the Samsung Captivate. I have not been experiencing any of the glitchs some have reported, but have experienced the email Huge Problem, but that has already been determined to be a Android OS problem, no fault of the Captivate. So I was holding out till today to see how the Torch with 6.0 OS would hit the streets. I thought for sure it would hit at $199.99 or more with a new 2 year contract, but NO, it is only $99.99. So what is the deal??

Well at this juncture, the Captivate is staying with me and me with it. I see no reason to leave a phone that has this much going for it only to throw all of that away and basically stepp back into the year 2007 with the Torch. The hardware is such a disappointment. I sure people will definately buy them, especially at that price. But once they see how little it impresses, there going to be returning them faster than they bought them.. I wish BB well, but I see the curtain coming down in the future, and not to distant..

My 2 cents!

Gunny

I am with the apple iPhone 3G. They're latest update made my phone an expensive paper weight and they refuse to do anything about it. I want to jump on the Captivate because AT&T said they'll give it to me free! However, I'm new to android and far from being tech savvy. Should I.....?

P.s. I don't know how to start my own thread on here. Am I missing something?

 

[gunny5821]

I am with the apple iPhone 3G. They're latest update made my phone an expensive paper weight and they refuse to do anything about it. I want to jump on the Captivate because AT&T said they'll give it to me free! However, I'm new to android and far from being tech savvy. Should I.....?

P.s. I don't know how to start my own thread on here. Am I missing something?

Look at the main forum page at the top, it will say New Thread.. Regarding your question, it depends on who you ask and what your requirements are. A lot of people are having problems with the GPS. I have not had any trouble with it. That seems to be the biggest issue and than there are little things. My niggest grip is with Android, the way it handles contacts, and it is horrible! Hopefully when the Captivate goes to the new 2.2 Froyo upgrade next month things will be better all the way around and that is a huge question. Personally I would recommend the Captivate, you will be impressed, very much so. It is a screamer and the video is just awesome.. Go over to YouTube and check out one or more of the hundreds of reviews and box opening experiences. Than you be the judge...

Good Luck ~~ Gunny

 

[Chief714]

I did figure out the new threads. I feel ******ed. It was right in front of me. I did see plenty of reviews on the captivate and I want it. But I know nothing about the android system.

What's the problem with the contacts? I saw the gps issue, but vie read somewhere that there's a fix for it.

Thanks again for responding

 

[gunny5821]

I did figure out the new threads. I feel ******ed. It was right in front of me. I did see plenty of reviews on the captivate and I want it. But I know nothing about the android system.

What's the problem with the contacts? I saw the gps issue, but vie read somewhere that there's a fix for it.

Thanks again for responding

Head over to this thread and follow the links I have attached. See people complain about the GPS, but mine is ok and even if it wasn't, the GPS is not a deal breaker for me. Contacts on the other hand are very important to me, but no one can point the finger at a phone, so it pretty much goes unnoticed in a forum like this as it is strickly an Android OS problem. I don't know what your requirements are, but if you must go to an AT&T contract, like I did, the Captivate is the Best Android phone on AT&T. Considering that I got it under a new 2 year contract from Wirefly.com for $49.99, free shipping, activation was waived and I got a free bluetooth headset and 50% off on a case. How could I say no to that..

Gunny

Here is the link:
http://androidforums.com/samsung-captivate/147380-contacts-where-they.html

 

[baji]

As far as I can tell, the majority of the problems people list for the Captivate are not issues that stem from the phone itself, they stem from the user. If you want a phone geared towards the lowest common denominator, then buy an iPhone. Hell, I had one for nearly two years. But, if you want a phone that really puts the control in your hands, then go with an android based phone. It's literally a night and day difference. The captivate is not the perfect phone. It has a few issues. But, no smart phone is perfect. The beauty at least in the Captivate is that it IS an Android phone, and as such, you can make some serious changes in how the phone runs.

 

[Intervenient]

I was also very upset with RIM. The Blackberry name is HUGE! Just 1-2 years ago, having a Blackberry meant that you were tech-savy, important, and smart. RIM has had so many opportunities to cash in on their name and phones, and instead push out this half-assed effort to retain their loyal fans. The Blackberry may be the business phone today, but iPhones and Android phones are going to leave them obsolete very, very soon unless RIM does something.

 

[speedfreak32]

I am with the apple iPhone 3G. They're latest update made my phone an expensive paper weight and they refuse to do anything about it. I want to jump on the Captivate because AT&T said they'll give it to me free! However, I'm new to android and far from being tech savvy. Should I.....?
P.s. I don't know how to start my own thread on here. Am I missing something?

My wife and I each had an iphone 3g. I got my captivate on launch day and will be the first to admit that there is a learning curve coming from an apple device.

As for contacts, I exported my contacts from itunes to gmail and then synced my phone to gmail and all of my contacts including pictures for each contact synced perfectly.
There are numerous ways to transfer your music and plenty of posts detailing how to do it.

It took me about three days to be really comfortable with this phone. Almost a month in and I am still amazed at what this phone can do. I know now that the Iphone just isn't for me. Way to much oversight from apple.


On another note after playing around with my phone last week my wife now has her own captivate. Hers basically looks like it did out of the box with the exception of a few apps. She loves it. She has no desire to mess around and tweak the phone, but sees things I have done and is becoming more and more interested.

 

[Terrigno]

I love a thread like this. It makes me feel a lot more respectful towards Android.

I can tell you this. I to was a BlackBerry Feen. When I say feen, I mean FEEN. I made everyone by a BlackBerry in my family and my friends. The Phones are awesome. Real Text beasts at that. After the Bolds, and the Tours, and the Storms and the Curves, I wanted to try something different. So I jumped on the Aria. I loved it as soon as I started messing with it. (I am Tech Savy lol) The Guy even told me at the AT&T store that the Captivate was comming out in about a week. And I was like thats ok, I dont know anything about Android and I love the size of this little phone. Had it and fell inlove with Android. Also, the extreme precison that HTC had with the touch feature on the phone was awesome.

So I took my time and looked up on the Captivate. And sure enough, I really wanted that. So as the time went by, I went to the store on launch day and my salesman handed me over the Captivate in an Even exchange for the Aria. He was like "I told you so" lol. I couldnt believe it. He saved me almost $100 by doing that. As soon as I got the Captivate, I fell in love again. I was weary about buying a Samsung Phone with a touch screen. My sister had one on sprint and the touch was HORRIBLE. But after reading what people said about the Amoled and how Samsung improved on the touch, I went for it. And Im sure happy I did. Its extremely precise, just like the HTC.

A majority of the problems you see with this phone will all be addressed in a firmware update. Im sure of it. Samsung wont leave people holding out on a phone like this. The potential it has, it sure is a beast. Im glad I made the change. I still have the Bold 9700 in the box. But ill throw that on ebay when Im in dyer need of money lol. Love what Android has to offer and Im stoked on it. Glad I made the choice!

 

[jmreed97]

there's a fix for it.

The "fix" is no fix.

 

[Bearsyzf]

I believe the Captivate is the best phone i've owned by far, and i'm new to Android to.... this is my first Android phone and i love it. I used to be a Apple feen to and thought my Iphone 3g was the ish, but once i read up on the Captivate i was more excited about it than i ever was about my iphone. This phone has so much potential and i'm sure once i learn more about android the more i will love it. The GPS problem isn't really a deal breaker for me since i dont use it much , but i believe when the update comes out not too many phones will be able to touch it . just my .02

 

[RavenFox]

I've been saying to some co-workers RIM should just drop an android os in their phones and call it the day.

 

[skinien]

I've been saying to some co-workers RIM should just drop an android os in their phones and call it the day.

Winner, winner. Chicken dinner.

 

[Chief714]

I keep hearing how you have more control over an android than the iPhone. Can anyone explain in detail. I'm sure this is in a sticky somewhere. I'm also sure I'll know a little more once I have my phone. Also, what type of changes can I make to the phone that personalize it?

Can you tell I'm new? Lol

 

[Thassodar]

I keep hearing how you have more control over an android than the iPhone. Can anyone explain in detail. I'm sure this is in a sticky somewhere. I'm also sure I'll know a little more once I have my phone. Also, what type of changes can I make to the phone that personalize it?

Can you tell I'm new? Lol

Since Android is a completely open source (think free to the public) Operating System (OS) there are limitless opportunities for people to change things. Most phones ship with a closed-source version of the operating system (much like the Captivate does, the Aria does, etc.) but there are easy ways to get past the version of the OS the carrier thinks is best; it's called rooting. The most well known group of developers who tinker with the settings and workings of Android and Windows Mobile phones are the XDA developers. Since the operating system is free for anyone to mess with, and the Android developers are infinitely more awesome, people who develop for Android phones usually develop for the greater good of the Android community. Money is usually not the main reason to develop for the Android phone, bettering the user's experience is. There are numerous ways to change the wallpapers, sounds, how the GPS works, making the phone run faster, changing transitions, changing the OS interface, customizing how programs open; all without spending a dime.


Apple's phone, the iPhone 3G/3GS/4, is not open source. Developers who want to make programs for the iPhone must buy a development kit and use Apple's tools and follow Apple's guidelines in order for them to see the light of day. Apple developers (I'm assuming) develop things for the iPhone because right now it has a very large user base and they have a higher possibility of making money with the iPhone (even though Apple takes a cut of their money). There are ways of making the iPhone closer to being open source, the most common way called Jailbreaking. The Jailbreaking community is very similar to the XDA developer community.

If any of this info is wrong someone please correct me.

 

[Intervenient]

Since Android is a completely open source (think free to the public) Operating System (OS) there are limitless opportunities for people to change things. Most phones ship with a closed-source version of the operating system (much like the Captivate does, the Aria does, etc.) but there are easy ways to get past the version of the OS the carrier thinks is best; it's called rooting. The most well known group of developers who tinker with the settings and workings of Android and Windows Mobile phones are the XDA developers. Since the operating system is free for anyone to mess with, and the Android developers are infinitely more awesome, people who develop for Android phones usually develop for the greater good of the Android community. Money is usually not the main reason to develop for the Android phone, bettering the user's experience is. There are numerous ways to change the wallpapers, sounds, how the GPS works, making the phone run faster, changing transitions, changing the OS interface, customizing how programs open; all without spending a dime.


Apple's phone, the iPhone 3G/3GS/4, is not open source. Developers who want to make programs for the iPhone must buy a development kit and use Apple's tools and follow Apple's guidelines in order for them to see the light of day. Apple developers (I'm assuming) develop things for the iPhone because right now it has a very large user base and they have a higher possibility of making money with the iPhone (even though Apple takes a cut of their money). There are ways of making the iPhone closer to being open source, the most common way called Jailbreaking. The Jailbreaking community is very similar to the XDA developer community.

If any of this info is wrong someone please correct me.

Nope, very technically sound. Although I'd attribute to a large number of developers working on iOS due to the fact that iOS owners buy more apps than Android owners.

 

[Deleted User]

OK, I bought the Captivate on Aug 3rd, which gives me 30 days to try it out and see if it is a fit for me. Since I was coming from the Blackberry world and was bored and blue, needing something to do, I jumped ship and went to the Android, specifically the Samsung Captivate. I have not been experiencing any of the glitchs some have reported, but have experienced the email Huge Problem, but that has already been determined to be a Android OS problem, no fault of the Captivate. So I was holding out till today to see how the Torch with 6.0 OS would hit the streets. I thought for sure it would hit at $199.99 or more with a new 2 year contract, but NO, it is only $99.99. So what is the deal??

Well at this juncture, the Captivate is staying with me and me with it. I see no reason to leave a phone that has this much going for it only to throw all of that away and basically stepp back into the year 2007 with the Torch. The hardware is such a disappointment. I sure people will definately buy them, especially at that price. But once they see how little it impresses, there going to be returning them faster than they bought them.. I wish BB well, but I see the curtain coming down in the future, and not to distant..

My 2 cents!

Gunny

I enjoy phone tech in general so I pay attention to them all, and try not to be a fan boy. I went in a played with the BB Torch today and was not even remotely impressed with it. Not because it's a slider, but because the hardware is just blah and so is the OS. They are still using a CPU that shipped in the Bold 9000 TWO YEARS AGO, and the same screen and resolution of the STORM that shipped TWO YEARS AGO.

Using the OS 6.0 is not smooth, and does not flow like it was designed for touch. It feels like a trackball OS band aided with touch support like WM6. I looked through all the menus and settings and it just looks dated and way behind Android and iOS and soon WM7.

The physical keyboard did not impress me at all, and I didn't try it with the mind there is not need for one. It just isn't special at all even if you like them.

 

[Frenzy2223]

I am with the apple iPhone 3G. They're latest update made my phone an expensive paper weight and they refuse to do anything about it. I want to jump on the Captivate because AT&T said they'll give it to me free! However, I'm new to android and far from being tech savvy. Should I.....?

P.s. I don't know how to start my own thread on here. Am I missing something?

How did you get the Captivate for free?

 

[gunny5821]

I enjoy phone tech in general so I pay attention to them all, and try not to be a fan boy. I went in a played with the BB Torch today and was not even remotely impressed with it. Not because it's a slider, but because the hardware is just blah and so is the OS. They are still using a CPU that shipped in the Bold 9000 TWO YEARS AGO, and the same screen and resolution of the STORM that shipped TWO YEARS AGO.

Using the OS 6.0 is not smooth, and does not flow like it was designed for touch. It feels like a trackball OS band aided with touch support like WM6. I looked through all the menus and settings and it just looks dated and way behind Android and iOS and soon WM7.

The physical keyboard did not impress me at all, and I didn't try it with the mind there is not need for one. It just isn't special at all even if you like them.

I totally agree with you! I stopped by my local AT&T store to just check out the Torch and see if the reviews were accurate and maybe I was being to hard on them. Well it seems I was seriously mistaken, it is WORSE than I had imagined! The Torch is so far removed from the Android 2.1 and soon 2.2 OS's that it feels like you step into a time warp back several years. To return a Captivate for a Torch, never, not mine. It actually makes me feel all that much better about the Captivate. Sory Blackberry, I came, I saw, I left and now I am Captivated (no pun intended, lol)!!!!!

Gunny

 

[Chief714]

How did you get the Captivate for free?

Basically. I can't use my 3G because the updates killed it. I lost clients because I couldn't pick up my calls.
Apple replaced my phone 3 times and basically told me to deal with it.

My wife's pregnant with minor complications and I couldn't pick up my phone when she was on her way to the doctors. ( all is well now thank God)

AT&T said ok. We're gonna send you both a captivate for free with free overnight shipping.

Awesome customer service!!!!