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anyone still seeing bluish tint on new phones?

I have an iPhone 4 and played with a captivate and vibrant for quite some time. All I can say is you will definitely miss the iPhone 4 screen. The captivate/vibrant definitely have good screens but the clarity and detail just isn't the same. Also as you mentioned, these devices don't have true white... the white is a light blueish color which for me just is unacceptable for a high end phone with a high end screen... I guess your eyes would get used to it over time but I used a computer all day for a living so seeing webpages and things that are suppose to display white, on my computer and then on my iPhone and then finally going back to the vibrant/captivate is pretty jarring... so if you're going to be viewing pages on your laptop or computer and then finish reading later on your phone, the lack of true white will get annoying rather quickly. As it stands now, I'm keeping my iPhone 4 and getting a captivate as a second phone... Also I believe this blueish tint is done on purpose to save battery life... Showing complete white taxes the energy used by displays which in turn taxes the battery life on battery based devices... I've seen a lot of devices cut corners this way to squeeze battery life... Nexus 1 also has a tint to it..
 
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Oh okay, now I notice it holding my phone up to the computer monitor. Well, I guess it bothers some people, but not others like me. It's funny, my friend compared her Iphone 4 with my Captivate, and neither of us noticed it. She actually liked how vibrant movies looked on the Captivate, and I was bitter that AT&T had the Captivate's front-facing camera removed, haha.
 
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I have 2 Captivates and returned 1. The one I returned had a very blue tint compared to my other as well as other phones(iphone, Aria). The replacement I got in return was noticeably less blue. It has a warmer, more natural white than the cold, blueish tint of my other one. The warmer tint is much easier on my eyes when reading text. The blueish tint becomes irritating after a while. I'm thinking of returning my 2nd one to get one with a warmer more natural white.
 
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(If any of what I say below is factually wrong, please contribute. I would very much be interested in knowing why or what is causing the blue tint)

I've been trying to study up more about this, though I don't think many people still have a real understanding on the technology behind Super Amoled screens. What I mean by that is, I have yet to find a formal write up explaining the bluish tint.

From what I have read however, it could be a software issue (Screen color-calibration, in which a screen-calibration app could be developed) or the Super Amoled screen's are manufactured that way on purpose. I read from one place that Samsung did that on purpose, because the first color pixels to die out first are blue...:thinking:...if that is true or not, I have no idea. I think most people are speculating these reasons for the bluish tint. If I had to guess, it would be that Samsung uses a certain coating on their screen, in the same way you would see different lens coatings ranging from Canon, Nikon, Olympus, Panasonic etc., on there photographic lenses. Just my 2 cents...

The facts that I do enjoy most, of the Super Amoled vs Retina are as follows:

Super Amoled:
Contrast ratio - 100.000:1 (No back light = true blacks)
Resolution of 800x480 @ 260ppi

Retina:
Contrast ratio - 800:1 (back lit)
Resolution of 960x640 @ 326 ppi

So the Retina screen does have a crisper clearer screen for reading text, but not great blacks and colors compared to the Super Amoled screen. Also, the viewing angle and outdoor visibility is supposed to be better with the Super Amoled.

Lastly, because there is no back light with the Super Amoled screens, there is far less battery consumption. With all that said, it is again, a personal decision. It will be a few more years for all the technology to come together for someone to produce the 'perfect' screen. If perfect is something even obtainable. Nevertheless, I watch more TV, movies and view photos than surf the web or read books, thus, I prefer the Super Amoled screen.
 
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Lastly, because there is no back light with the Super Amoled screens, there is far less battery consumption. With all that said, it is again, a person decision. It will be a few more years for all the technology to come together for someone to produce the 'perfect' screen. If perfect is something even obtainable. Nevertheless, I watch more TV, movies and view photos than surf the web or read books, thus, I prefer the Super Amoled screen.

1 - SAmoled claims to consume less power because it has no backlight that is always on (when the screen is on). In real life, when you use that screen to display something bright, it may eat more power because those pixels need to be electrically charged to emit light. In other words (extreme example): install a flashlight app from the market, an app that uses the screen at full brightness showing white color, so you can use the screen as flashlight. If you turn this "flashlight" on, it will consume more power per minute than an LCD screen showing white with backlight at full brightness - LCD backlight is more energy efficient than OLEDs in emitting light.

2 - PPI - do not fall a victim to SJ's sales pitches. Yes it is a fact that iP4 has a higher PPI. However I use my Captivate to read books all the time, and it is perfect (better than iP4 IMHO) for two reasons:

a) I read from a normal viewing distance, about 1-1.5 feet. At that distance I can't distinguish pixels, and higher PPI is of no use.
b) Captivate's screen is just OLED covered with a sensor film, covered with the front piece (glass or plastic, not sure). The actual picture is extremely close to the surface of the screen, and it looks ALMOST like text is written on the surface of the screen, CLOSER to those "ink" screens on Kindle and Nook. The refresh rate is high, no flickering, no eye strain.
 
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1 - SAmoled claims to consume less power because it has no backlight that is always on (when the screen is on). In real life, when you use that screen to display something bright, it may eat more power because those pixels need to be electrically charged to emit light. In other words (extreme example): install a flashlight app from the market, an app that uses the screen at full brightness showing white color, so you can use the screen as flashlight. If you turn this "flashlight" on, it will consume more power per minute than an LCD screen showing white with backlight at full brightness - LCD backlight is more energy efficient than OLEDs in emitting light.

2 - PPI - do not fall a victim to SJ's sales pitches. Yes it is a fact that iP4 has a higher PPI. However I use my Captivate to read books all the time, and it is perfect (better than iP4 IMHO) for two reasons:

a) I read from a normal viewing distance, about 1-1.5 feet. At that distance I can't distinguish pixels, and higher PPI is of no use.
b) Captivate's screen is just OLED covered with a sensor film, covered with the front piece (glass or plastic, not sure). The actual picture is extremely close to the surface of the screen, and it looks ALMOST like text is written on the surface of the screen, CLOSER to those "ink" screens on Kindle and Nook. The refresh rate is high, no flickering, no eye strain.


Yeah, I agree. The PPI between the two is relatively small. Really not enough to make one unit any better or worse. I for one am not a super fussy, nit picky kinda guy that I'll say "I refuse to read text on any screen with less than 300ppi." So what if I can see a little pixel on the corner of an 'O', does that mean I can't read what is displayed? Reading anything on the Captivate is superb, no doubting that.

Where I do get nit picky is colors, and the Super Amoled screen is so far, IMO, unrivaled while viewing a movie/photo/tv/game. Simply put, it is a multimedia beast...
 
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do you people accept anything less than pure perfection?!


Of course! Nothing is perfect. But without customer complaints, companies in general would never bother improving their products. If no one ever says anything, technology would move at a snail pace.

With that said, I for one am satisfied with everything the Captivate is and does. But I do understand how some people would not particularly like the bluish hue/tint.
 
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I almost didn't buy the Captivate because of the blue tint. It wasn't noticeable until I held my IP4 up next to it. You could really tell the blue tint was present.

Ultimately, I decided that if I had to compare it to something else to see it, it wasn't that big of a deal. I'm really glad I went ahead as I love the Captivate. I really really miss the crystal clear text on the IP4 but my Captivate does so much more and allows me to enjoy it better.
 
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