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LiQuID FroZeN YoGurT v1.5 (FRG22 Built From AOSP Source!! - Custom SLaYHer KeRNeLs!!)

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  • 5 Star ROM Rating: Elite

    Votes: 48 60.0%
  • 4 Star ROM Rating: Outstanding

    Votes: 20 25.0%
  • 3 Star ROM Rating: Average

    Votes: 3 3.8%
  • 2 Star ROM Rating: Not Ready for Primetime

    Votes: 5 6.3%
  • 1 Star ROM Rating: Not Usable

    Votes: 4 5.0%

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Make a nandroid backup BEFORE flashing kernels. If you want to revert, you can do an advanced restore and ONLY restore the boot partition. This will reinstall the stock kernel without messing up any files or settings :cool:

Thanks, 2 more questions if you don't mind.

1. I have the blueberry theme now but I want to change over to watermarkd. Do I just go about installing the new theme the same way I installed blueberry? Do I have to wipe something, etc.

2. When OCed, what temperature ranges should we try to keep the CPU at? When is it too hot? I had mine running at 800 mhz earlier and it was at about ~50 celcius during heavy browsing.

Thanks again!
 
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Thanks, 2 more questions if you don't mind.

1. I have the blueberry theme now but I want to change over to watermarkd. Do I just go about installing the new theme the same way I installed blueberry? Do I have to wipe something, etc.

2. When OCed, what temperature ranges should we try to keep the CPU at? When is it too hot? I had mine running at 800 mhz earlier and it was at about ~50 celcius during heavy browsing.

Thanks again!

Here's the deal...if you used the Smoked theme...you may be able to get away with just flashing another theme over it. The Blueberry and Tangerine themes are so complete that you need to go back to stock to flash a different theme.

You can do this the easy way or the hard way or the "might work/might cause issues way...

1)

Easy way would be to revert to your "Stock" nandroid and then flash a new theme (if you didn't do a nandroid...read on :rolleyes:)

Hard way would be to start fresh with a complete reflashing of the ROM (recommended that you wipe data and cache at a minimum). Once you flash the stock ROM and get it set up again MAKE A BACKUP so if you don't like the new theme...you can revert to your backup and flash another theme.

"Might work/might cause problems way would be to flash the 1.5 ROM AGAIN overtop of your current setup WITHOUT wiping anything. It probably won't cause any force closes or any other problems but installing a ROM without properly wiping the partitions is always iffy.

2)

50 deg C is about as hot as you want to run your phone for extended times. Heavy browsing, streaming audio and video, and using the GPS functionality can all send your phone to the top temperature ranges. Set a profile up in SetCPU that automatically clocks your phone down to 800MHz or lower when you hit 50 deg C...(that's my threshold anyway).
 
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Naturally I had the wrong mdsum file, so I just reflashed the ROM, Slayher 1.0 and BnB theme with no issues. Thanks to all for catching this and keeping everyone updated.

I do have one question for the experts. Do you recommend storing apps on the sdcard to save memory (via Terminal, apps2sdon)? I've never really bothered with it before, but it seems like a decent thought. Advantages, disadvantages? Thanks in advance for any help.
 
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Initial Setup:
LFY remains one of the fastest booting ROMs, taking only about a minute to bootup. Was happy to see my fav animation back, but that's just a matter of preference. Market synced up pretty fast at just over 15 mins and restoring 97 apps out of around 110. This would be the second most a Froyo ROM has ever restored.

Appearance:
It's pretty much a stock ROM until you flash one of the included themes. You've seen the screenshots, not much else to report there. I do like that Beautiful Widgets has available skins and LauncherPro has a couple dock images. Would like to see a Weather Widget Donate skin available, as most of us have one or the other.

Performance and Goodies:
There's not a lot in terms of extras, which probably doesn't matter too much with most of you. So when comparing to ROMs that do, it's got to compensate with tremendous speed, which this ROM has done in all builds. This ROM, however does have some hiccups.

I scored pretty high on Quadrant, netting a high of 1626 at 1.1GHz, and consistently in the high 1500s. Generally, the ROM seems pretty fluid and scrolls beautifully, but then there's times where it seems to lag. Apps don't always open and close beautifully, and screen transitions can seem stiff occasionally. Sure, I've got some GPU intensive widgets and such, but even with very little installed the same problem persists. Reading through the comments, I'm apparently not alone.

It feels like there's something causing it more than just being a "slow" ROM. Sometimes when you're scrolling through your apps, or a webpage, it's just butter. But other times, it seems like it's just sticking. Like when you first wake it up, it kinda takes a few seconds to get rolling. And when surfing the net, it seems to take a few seconds longer than it should. And it really doesn't like performing two tasks at once. Getting a text while surfing the net cause horrible lag and the same thing happened while multitasking in call.

That's another thing, calls take a second before they let you respond. You won't be able to wake your Droid or answer for more than a few seconds. This is receiving or making calls. As a matter of fact, while trying to call in a radio station for one of their daily contests, the process took so long that I knew by the time I actually completed the call that it was already too late.

App and System Function:
Most things seem to be in order, haven't noticed any apps that didn't work, but there were a couple issues that did occur. I did have a FC while viewing the Market, and Swype seems to lag a lot, and consistently with this ROM. Even the stock keyboard seemed a lil sluggish.

Battery and the GPU seemed to stay pretty cool for the most part. Even while really putting this ROM through the ringer, the GPU never went past 104F and the battery never above 98F.

Overall battery life, though, is rather unimpressive. With heavy use, I drained the battery completely in 4 hours after flashing (I don't start testing until completely charged). After normal use, I was down to about 40% after 8 hours, but after less than an hour later of heavier use it dropped to 15%.

Overview:
I'm kinda disappointed in this version. While it's not a bad ROM, I was hoping for increased performance that just wasn't there. It sounded like they really had this optimized, and the benches I've gotten confirm that. But real world application tells a diff tale. It might be one of the most fluid ROMs I've ever tried when it's not lagging. Problem is, it lags quite often.

For me, it seems that every build that ends in an odd number (1.1, 1.3, 1.5) seem to not do well, while the even numbered ones perform near outstanding. So while this ROM left me disheartened, I very much look forward to seeing if this trend continues with the next build. And understanding that this was the first ROM that Liquid collaborated with slayher, perhaps they'll have everything worked out for the next go round.

Rating:
2 out of 5 stars


Thanks for the review YankeeDudeL...however I am going to have to respectfully disagree with your assessment ;)

Being a tester for Liquid...I'm biased.

Having said that...I've been flashing ROMs since the days of "SholesMod" and LFY v1.5 has got to be the fastest, smoothest ROM I have ever used. Even tonight I was showing my phone off to a couple of people that own Droids. They were COMPLETELY blown away by the speed. One guy was playing with my phone and was swiping screens, opening apps, and generally just going though the ROM as fast as he could to see if he could get the phone to stall. After a couple of minutes he gave up throughly impressed.

A few users have reported performance issues like the ones you described...Let's just say were not looking at the same phones!

Now, I mean no disrespect...I know you to be an honest guy so I believe you are reporting what you are seeing...I'm just not seeing it (at all).

Between the ROM's optimizations (based all around speed) coupled with Slayher's kernels (based all around speed...especially with compcache enabled)...something must have gone a muck with your phone :thinking:
 
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Naturally I had the wrong mdsum file, so I just reflashed the ROM, Slayher 1.0 and BnB theme with no issues. Thanks to all for catching this and keeping everyone updated.

I do have one question for the experts. Do you recommend storing apps on the sdcard to save memory (via Terminal, apps2sdon)? I've never really bothered with it before, but it seems like a decent thought. Advantages, disadvantages? Thanks in advance for any help.

YES...YES...YES!

I use TiBu to move all of my games and large apk's like Google Earth, and Google Sky Map to the SD Card.

I don't EVER move system apps to the SD Card and while I think the problems with Launcher Pro and Apps2SD have all been fixed...I still don't move any apps with widgets to the SD Card.

I have never noticed performance issues with moving games and other apps to the sd card and I have plenty of free space on my internal memory :D
 
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weird thing been happening. i flashed the 1.2ghz slayher kernel and my battery life has been really wonky. it was 80% and then i installed a couple apps and it dropped down to 20%. noticed over the past day or two that battery life on this kernel is not that great.

Yeah, I'd have to agree. 1.2 really isn't the best in terms of battery life. I made it 14 hours today and was at 40% left with light use (couple of 10-15 minute phone calls, light testing, gtalk, web browsing).

That doesn't seem so bad but with limited use...my SetCPU profiles are keeping my clock pretty low. When really "using" the phone, the battery drains pretty fast though. I think 1.1 and 1.2GHz has a performance vs. battery trade-off. I have found that 1000MHz is a little nicer balance. Still pretty snappy but better battery life and it runs cooler.
 
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Thanks for the review YankeeDudeL...however I am going to have to respectfully disagree with your assessment ;)

Being a tester for Liquid...I'm biased.

Having said that...I've been flashing ROMs since the days of "SholesMod" and LFY v1.5 has got to be the fastest, smoothest ROM I have ever used. Even tonight I was showing my phone off to a couple of people that own Droids. They were COMPLETELY blown away by the speed. One guy was playing with my phone and was swiping screens, opening apps, and generally just going though the ROM as fast as he could to see if he could get the phone to stall. After a couple of minutes he gave up throughly impressed.

A few users have reported performance issues like the ones you described...Let's just say were not looking at the same phones!

Now, I mean no disrespect...I know you to be an honest guy so I believe you are reporting what you are seeing...I'm just not seeing it (at all).

Between the ROM's optimizations (based all around speed) coupled with Slayher's kernels (based all around speed...especially with compcache enabled)...something must have gone a muck with your phone :thinking:

I think I'm becoming the old guy judge on Dancing with the Stars. lol

It really feels like something is holding it back, something causing it to lag. When there isn't any lag, it's incredibly smooth, but unfortunately, it lags pretty often. It was even before I started setting up my home screens, so I dunno.

I know what this ROM is capable of in terms of speed. The first LFY build, while very buggy, was amazingly smooth. I don't think I've seen any ROM compare in that regard. But since becoming a ROM Rev (woot, first time I've referred to myself as that..lol) I'm looking at ROMs diff then I used to, comparing and contrasting, and other words that sound intelligent.

My girlfriend has the Droid Incredible and I've compared the two quite a fair bit. 2.2 really evened things out between the two phones, even making the screen transitions close to being on par. If I take this ROM and compare, it's incredibly (pun partially unintended) far behind it.

Given this is the first time Liquid and slayher have collaborated, maybe they'll figure this out for the next go. This ROM with those kernels should spell awesomeness.
 
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Yep, and it's sweet when you can get away with that and I often try to take shortcuts to save me time as I have flashed hundreds of ROMs...here's what I've found.

Sometimes you get lucky...sometimes you don't. But when you don't...you often spend more time fixing it than it would have taken you to just do it "the right way"...the first time :D

I know people don't always follow instructions and that's cool...I'm just trying to put out the "Best Practice" ways of doing things. What people choose to do is up to them...but my first question to them when they are asking for help is: "Did you format data?" My second question is: "Did your format your system and boot partitions?"

It's just been my experience that most people having problems...can't say yes to either of those questions ;)

Noon here...I am running lfy 1.4 non patched and want to upgrade...can I just install the new rom or do I have to wipe...if I do, can I get a quit step by step for sprecovery...just a basic guide is all I'm looking for. Thanks.
 
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It helped, after I got the new version of LfYv1.5 with the new MD5sum my phone doesn't get extremely hot when playing SNES emulator, nor does it do it when I'm listening to the radio. I wonder what was even causing the kernel to wig out in the first place, because for all visual concerns the kernel is exactly the same as before (same model and name in menu at least to my knowledge).
 
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Just my two cents ... but having two versions of "1.5" is fairly ludicrous. The fixed version should've been labelled 1.5.1. (Or am I misreading/misunderstanding something?)

I'm going to redownload and reflash tonight. I'm hoping that 1.5 will impress me as much or more than 1.4 did. If it doesn't, I'm fine with reverting back to 1.4.

As of right now, 1.5 is running as smoothly as 1.4 did, and I can't install Swype, along with a few other apps.
 
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Just my two cents ... but having two versions of "1.5" is fairly ludicrous. The fixed version should've been labelled 1.5.1. (Or am I misreading/misunderstanding something?)

I'm going to redownload and reflash tonight. I'm hoping that 1.5 will impress me as much or more than 1.4 did. If it doesn't, I'm fine with reverting back to 1.4.

As of right now, 1.5 is running as smoothly as 1.4 did, and I can't install Swype, along with a few other apps.


Swpye installs fine on mine even works good . Have you tried going into your sd Swype and deleting the folder and try reinstalling it ????
 
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Just my two cents ... but having two versions of "1.5" is fairly ludicrous. The fixed version should've been labelled 1.5.1. (Or am I misreading/misunderstanding something?)

I'm going to redownload and reflash tonight. I'm hoping that 1.5 will impress me as much or more than 1.4 did. If it doesn't, I'm fine with reverting back to 1.4.

As of right now, 1.5 is running as smoothly as 1.4 did, and I can't install Swype, along with a few other apps.

I hear what your saying, but the ROM wasn't "really" changed. LFY was added to ROM Manager and the "change" to the ROM was just a text only change which was enough to make the MD5 checksums return different values when trying to verify the files :eek:

The people who have seen their temperature "problems" fixed...is a coincidence or perhaps a result of re-flashing the ROM. :thinking:
 
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I think I'm becoming the old guy judge on Dancing with the Stars. lol

It really feels like something is holding it back, something causing it to lag. When there isn't any lag, it's incredibly smooth, but unfortunately, it lags pretty often. It was even before I started setting up my home screens, so I dunno.

I know what this ROM is capable of in terms of speed. The first LFY build, while very buggy, was amazingly smooth. I don't think I've seen any ROM compare in that regard. But since becoming a ROM Rev (woot, first time I've referred to myself as that..lol) I'm looking at ROMs diff then I used to, comparing and contrasting, and other words that sound intelligent.

My girlfriend has the Droid Incredible and I've compared the two quite a fair bit. 2.2 really evened things out between the two phones, even making the screen transitions close to being on par. If I take this ROM and compare, it's incredibly (pun partially unintended) far behind it.

Given this is the first time Liquid and slayher have collaborated, maybe they'll figure this out for the next go. This ROM with those kernels should spell awesomeness.

Yeah, but I'm not seeing any of this lag so I'm not sure what's "holding it back" for you... I ran out of time last night, but soon I plan on throwing up a video of my phone "in action". I can swipe screens, open apps, rotate to landscape, rotate back to portrait, etc. with the biggest lag being about a 1-2 second delay after changing orientation and trying to resume swiping screens...video will be worth a thousand words LOL
 
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Just my two cents ... but having two versions of "1.5" is fairly ludicrous. The fixed version should've been labelled 1.5.1. (Or am I misreading/misunderstanding something?)

I'm going to redownload and reflash tonight. I'm hoping that 1.5 will impress me as much or more than 1.4 did. If it doesn't, I'm fine with reverting back to 1.4.

As of right now, 1.5 is running as smoothly as 1.4 did, and I can't install Swype, along with a few other apps.


I had problems with swype the first time as well. After going through the whole process of deleting it and the installer and downloading/installing both again it worked fine.
 
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I noticed the temp on setcpu was high, deleted the widget and reinstalled the widget and all was fine. Yankedudel is right about the lag. I am noticing it more and more. and I see he also has the same issue I posted yesterday about the delay time to answer the phone. My wife called five minutes ago and it took almost ten seconds for the answer screen to show up. Last night I was comparing her droid to mine. hers has BB.4 with the 24 gold theme and the stock 800 kernel that comes with it, and it was doing everything faster and smoother than mine clocked at 1000. This was not the case before LFY1.5
 
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@Yankee, are you still running the same phone, or have you gotten yours replaced. When you wrote up your review on LFY 1.4, it really sounded like you have a hardware issue with your phone with some of the problems you had described back then. It also sounds like you are no longer having those same issues with 1.5. (Which to me is a telling improvement of the ROM, but that's still up dependent on my h/w fault assessment)

Just curious, your reviews are interesting to read.
 
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Yeah, but I'm not seeing any of this lag so I'm not sure what's "holding it back" for you... I ran out of time last night, but soon I plan on throwing up a video of my phone "in action". I can swipe screens, open apps, rotate to landscape, rotate back to portrait, etc. with the biggest lag being about a 1-2 second delay after changing orientation and trying to resume swiping screens...video will be worth a thousand words LOL

As you know I love LiQuID FroYo on my phone! I have not had anything else on my phone since 1.1 or 1.2 which for me is impressive because I was changing ROMs about 2-3 times a week. But so far I agree with YankeeDude it has at times been really laggy, which is really surprising to me! Having said that though I'm not giving up on 1.5 yet, I'm going to wipe and reinstall to see if the problem is fixed. If that doesn't fix it then I'll just go back to my 1.4 build for now. BTW I have not installed a different kernel as I've always found the standard 800MHz kernel to run super smooth and I haven't loaded a theme since Stewart hasn't updated Watermark'D yet.
 
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My wife called five minutes ago and it took almost ten seconds for the answer screen to show up.

Yep, after several different installs I had to go back to LFY 1.4 because I couldn't answer inbound phone calls. I missed 5 calls yesterday (from my frustrated wife) due to the delay in waking up the phone. I reinstalled 1.4 this morning and voila, my phone works as a phone again.
 
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The correct file is LFYv1-1.5.zip if named rom file is named LFYv1.5.zip you need to flash the rom again


I have the LFYv1.5 I uploaded this ROM before 11am when it was said that it was updated..

I've read thru this page, and I'm not getting a clear feel on what exactly is the difference in these two roms. Is there a bug in the former? Is it running to hot? I havent really pushed my phone since the flash but when using the net, and texting and all that(havent chk'd temp when using gps nav) I was around 102 degree. Give or take a little more and little less from that number.. At idle i chillin at high 70's and low 80's, but i do underclock when phone is at idle.

If I do need to reflash the updated 1.5, do I still wipe? How would I do this. I havnet added any themes, just slayhers 1100 kernel.
 
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