Hey Guys, New Here :)

[carmendiva]

First of all, I would like to introduce myself.
My name is Carmen(hence the user name)
and I am a regular around the forums since way back when in 2009
when i had a droid and droid eris and have bounced around from phone to phone
and now have landed to the Captivate section....

I am bouncing back between my Xperia and My captivate

For the most part I love my Captivate but there are a few things it sucks at
but for the most part, it is great

Anywhoo,, I just wanted to introduce myself(feel free to PM me...love the messages I get)

I also wanted to ask...My roommate has a captivate and wanted to know since it is a world phone and can be unlocked

Can she take this phone and use it on Verizon?
I wasn't quite sure how to explain it and i figured i'd ask

Thanks a bunch
Carmendiva

 

[Rhiannon224]

There is a one click unlock available. Samsung Galaxy S on AppBrain. It's free. Head over to the XDA forums and there is a more detailed explanation.

 

[Ph8]

Yes the phone can be unlocked and no the phone cant be used on Verizon. Verizon is CDMA and ATT is GSM, they are not compatible. Once unlocked you will only be able to use it on other GSM networks ala TMobile.

As it was said earlier you can find how to unlock your phone over at xda-developers. There are a few different methods you can unlock it by.

 

[carmendiva]

i was just wondering because i thought world phones meant it had the radios in it for both CDMA and At & t and could use it virtually anywhere

The reason i asked is because wouldn't the Fascinate(Verizon's captivate) be a world phone like the European Galaxy S, Vibrant and Captivate and if you really wanted it to, couldn't you use it(the fascinate) on At & t and Tmobile all the while it being a CDMA Phone

 

[mongstradamus]

i was just wondering because i thought world phones meant it had the radios in it for both CDMA and At & t and could use it virtually anywhere

The reason i asked is because wouldn't the Fascinate(Verizon's captivate) be a world phone like the European Galaxy S, Vibrant and Captivate and if you really wanted it to, couldn't you use it(the fascinate) on At & t and Tmobile all the while it being a CDMA Phone

Well the difference betwen teh fascinate and the captivate/vibrant/european galaxy s are those are gsm phones, where you can unlock and swap in any simcard you want in. You cant quite do that with the fascinate.

 

[carmendiva]

Well the difference betwen teh fascinate and the captivate/vibrant/european galaxy s are those are gsm phones, where you can unlock and swap in any simcard you want in. You cant quite do that with the fascinate.

Okay im sorry if that sounds stupid of me

but the galaxy S phone are world phones(Like my storm was on Verizon and it had a sims card slot) so wouldn't the fascinate have a slot to use it on a GSM network or if need be on a CDMA network, you could potentially just see if you could add it

Again sorry, just not understanding lol

 

[mongstradamus]

Okay im sorry if that sounds stupid of me

but the galaxy S phone are world phones(Like my storm was on Verizon and it had a sims card slot) so wouldn't the fascinate have a slot to use it on a GSM network or if need be on a CDMA network, you could potentially just see if you could add it

Again sorry, just not understanding lol

I could be wrong i am not sure if the fascinate has an sim card slot. I thought it was an regular cdma phone

 

[carmendiva]

I could be wrong i am not sure if the fascinate has an sim card slot. I thought it was an regular cdma phone

The reason i asked was because i figured since it was a galaxy s phone as well and the captivate and vibrant are world phones it would be too(as would the epic)

unless they stripped that capability from it

 

[mongstradamus]

The reason i asked was because i figured since it was a galaxy s phone as well and the captivate and vibrant are world phones it would be too(as would the epic)

unless they stripped that capability from it

Well according to this its cdma only , so i am not sure. Only way to really find out is to wait two weeks till its out and you can play with it Verizon Wireless Samsung Fascinate training documents leaked Boy Genius Report

 

[carmendiva]

Well according to this its cdma only , so i am not sure. Only way to really find out is to wait two weeks till its out and you can play with it Verizon Wireless Samsung Fascinate training documents leaked Boy Genius Report

haha thanks

I love my captivate aside from the signal issues and she likes the look of the captivate vs the fascinate and wanted to know if she could buy one outright and just use it on Verizon

But thanks thought

 

[mongstradamus]

haha thanks

I love my captivate aside from the signal issues and she likes the look of the captivate vs the fascinate and wanted to know if she could buy one outright and just use it on Verizon

But thanks thought

The only real problem i have with phone is gps issue, so hopefully it will be fixed later next month so i can be happy again, so i have to quit using my old 3g :-(

 

[grave101]

The Fascinate won't be able to be used on ATT or T Mobile at all. It will be strictly CDMA. No possible way of you making it GSM. And you can't use the Captivate on Verizon because that's strictly made as a GSM phone. It's all hardware based.

I don't understand what you mean by "world phones" because they aren't... All the different versions of the phones all have different hardware for the networks they're supposed to be used on

 

[carmendiva]

The Fascinate won't be able to be used on ATT or T Mobile at all. It will be strictly CDMA. No possible way of you making it GSM. And you can't use the Captivate on Verizon because that's strictly made as a GSM phone. It's all hardware based.

I don't understand what you mean by "world phones" because they aren't... All the different versions of the phones all have different hardware for the networks they're supposed to be used on

ummm if you power on your phone
it says At & t world phone

 

[grave101]

ummm if you power on your phone
it says At & t world phone

Ok...that's their slogan. Has nothing to do with it being able to work on any cell phone carrier.

 

[vapor311]

the vibrant and the captivate for sure to DO NOT have cdma radio capability in them they are only capable of carrying gsm connectivity. Verizon at one point had started putting in gsm card slots in all of their phones because they are at some point making the switch to gsm.

The cdma technology is a leased tech. Its actually leased from the goverment. If you ever watch and old war movie and see the guy holding the radio he has to crank the dial on the side about 10 times before he can radio out for help...yea same radio waves. It was leased out to all the carries years ago and then partitions of it were sold to them. All the carriers over the years have been spending money on slowly making the move to gsm with radios etc but its very expensive and time consuming. Sprint at this point in time is actually in talks with tmob on a merger to A. increace customer base for tmob since sprit is huge and B. provide sprint with gsm towers, its a win win for both sides. We'll see if it happens.

Verizon took a different approach to date, they are still working on the switch but at the worlds slowest rate. They have their phones wired for cdma tech but with sim card slots in them and dub them world phones so u can use them on other networks like piggy backing. Great idea. Wont last forever. They will eventually be forced to move over into this century and use gsm at some point.

I worked for ATT and now I work for the evil fruit company and all of this is things you learn at day one with ATT literally its part of their selling points. Another is how you can get anyone out of a sprint contract free of charge because there is a clause in it that says if you move somewhere that doesnt support sprint coverage they will release you from your contract no questions asked. Tell them you moved to havre montana. Done your out of contract.

win/win and I just sold you att or tmob from my kiosk and got you away from sprint for free.

Dirty lil bastiches arent they.

Now the evil fruit company i now work for...you dont even wanna know the secrets we have there lol

 

[carmendiva]

the vibrant and the captivate for sure to DO NOT have cdma radio capability in them they are only capable of carrying gsm connectivity. Verizon at one point had started putting in gsm card slots in all of their phones because they are at some point making the switch to gsm.

The cdma technology is a leased tech. Its actually leased from the goverment. If you ever watch and old war movie and see the guy holding the radio he has to crank the dial on the side about 10 times before he can radio out for help...yea same radio waves. It was leased out to all the carries years ago and then partitions of it were sold to them. All the carriers over the years have been spending money on slowly making the move to gsm with radios etc but its very expensive and time consuming. Sprint at this point in time is actually in talks with tmob on a merger to A. increace customer base for tmob since sprit is huge and B. provide sprint with gsm towers, its a win win for both sides. We'll see if it happens.

Verizon took a different approach to date, they are still working on the switch but at the worlds slowest rate. They have their phones wired for cdma tech but with sim card slots in them and dub them world phones so u can use them on other networks like piggy backing. Great idea. Wont last forever. They will eventually be forced to move over into this century and use gsm at some point.

I worked for ATT and now I work for the evil fruit company and all of this is things you learn at day one with ATT literally its part of their selling points. Another is how you can get anyone out of a sprint contract free of charge because there is a clause in it that says if you move somewhere that doesnt support sprint coverage they will release you from your contract no questions asked. Tell them you moved to havre montana. Done your out of contract.

win/win and I just sold you att or tmob from my kiosk and got you away from sprint for free.

Dirty lil bastiches arent they.

Now the evil fruit company i now work for...you dont even wanna know the secrets we have there lol

That is interesting lolz...Tell me more

and about the other post above you

No...No, that is not a slogan..."At & T world phone"

that is letting you know that it's a phone from At & t that you can use in world phones lol

But i think i understand...the majority of the users in the other countries are GSM carriers and the Captivate(and the Xperia) have the capabilities of all GSM networks to use a sim card on it but no capability of CDMA

 

[grave101]

That is interesting lolz...Tell me more

and about the other post above you

No...No, that is not a slogan..."At & T world phone"

that is letting you know that it's a phone from At & t that you can use in world phones lol

But i think i understand...the majority of the users in the other countries are GSM carriers and the Captivate(and the Xperia) have the capabilities of all GSM networks to use a sim card on it but no capability of CDMA

Oh my goodness, YES it is their slogan. The Captivate is made to be used in the US. Thats why its not factory unlocked when you buy it.

 

[Terrigno]

Welcome girl. Extremely beautiful lol. Anyways, World Phone yes. As in different areas around the world. But it doesnt have a CDMA Chip in it. So therefore, not that part of the world (IE: Verizon, Sprint) lol

Although when I was a BlackBerry Fanatic and had the Tour, and Bold and Storms......they had a CDMA and GSM radio in them. So AT&T and TMo users could buy it, unlock it and use it. But not vice versa with Verizon.

 

[carmendiva]

Oh my goodness, YES it is their slogan. The Captivate is made to be used in the US. Thats why its not factory unlocked when you buy it.

lol for the sake of argument, it's a slogan, grave

 

[carmendiva]

Welcome girl. Extremely beautiful lol. Anyways, World Phone yes. As in different areas around the world. But it doesnt have a CDMA Chip in it. So therefore, not that part of the world (IE: Verizon, Sprint) lol

Although when I was a BlackBerry Fanatic and had the Tour, and Bold and Storms......they had a CDMA and GSM radio in them. So AT&T and TMo users could buy it, unlock it and use it. But not vice versa with Verizon.

Thank you for the compliment Terrigno and Thanks for the explanation

 

[RavenFox]

Ahh so you decided to try the captivate eh? Good for you. Much better than the Xperia imo. You can look at a good review of the phones over at Engadget but as always reviews mean nothing when it's the user who decides what they want out of said phone.
Personally I think the Captivate will better serve your needs. Upgrade path is assured and lots of power to spare.

 

[carmendiva]

Ahh so you decided to try the captivate eh? Good for you. Much better than the Xperia imo. You can look at a good review of the phones over at Engadget but as always reviews mean nothing when it's the user who decides what they want out of said phone.
Personally I think the Captivate will better serve your needs. Upgrade path is assured and lots of power to spare.

lol yeah i like it haha
its a good phone for the most part

 

[mongstradamus]

Ahh so you decided to try the captivate eh? Good for you. Much better than the Xperia imo. You can look at a good review of the phones over at Engadget but as always reviews mean nothing when it's the user who decides what they want out of said phone.
Personally I think the Captivate will better serve your needs. Upgrade path is assured and lots of power to spare.

xperia would have been a nice phone if it came out last year. Still running 1.6 and the hardware seems kind of dated who knows

 

[carmendiva]

xperia would have been a nice phone if it came out last year. Still running 1.6 and the hardware seems kind of dated who knows

Trust me, the Xperia is a beautiful phone...No Super Amoled but i liked the phone and i would still have it IF...

1)At & T didn't restrict the apps and allow me to download HTC or Droid X App...I hate the standard keyboard for the Xperia

2)Call Volume(when the phone rings is horribly low and very tinny sounding)

 

[vapor311]

That is interesting lolz...Tell me more

and about the other post above you

No...No, that is not a slogan..."At & T world phone"

that is letting you know that it's a phone from At & t that you can use in world phones lol

But i think i understand...the majority of the users in the other countries are GSM carriers and the Captivate(and the Xperia) have the capabilities of all GSM networks to use a sim card on it but no capability of CDMA

Right its two completely different networks and while verizon builds several phones capable of both att does not, HOWEVER the Captivate is unlock-able to be used on other GSM carriers around the world just not CDMA carriers because well that would be taking a step backward in techno and they arent going to do that. Honestly verizon needs to hurry up and catch up with the rest of the world.