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Root Getting rid of clockwork mod recovery.

I have a feeling it's alot of inexperienced users having trouble. Seems that way from what I see here on the forums. I'm sure it's a fine recovery, i do however feel the more "automatic" you make mods like this, the less control the end user has when it comes to diagnostics after something has gone wrong. Personally I would rather have control over the code and learn what it means before making decisions that could technically ruin the device.

No knocking the clockwork recovery or rom manager, just my personal opinion.
 
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I have a feeling it's alot of inexperienced users having trouble. Seems that way from what I see here on the forums. I'm sure it's a fine recovery, i do however feel the more "automatic" you make mods like this, the less control the end user has when it comes to diagnostics after something has gone wrong. Personally I would rather have control over the code and learn what it means before making decisions that could technically ruin the device.

No knocking the clockwork recovery or rom manager, just my personal opinion.

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things become ALOT harder unless you do it yourself and your are familiar with wth is going on lol. I learned that one the hard way. Espcecially when you cook roms for WinMo and HTC ;/ lol. Well if they cant do what i just told em then theyre pretty "inexperienced" or lazy....
 
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It's definitely daunting, especially for what I believe are alot of users new to the smartphone thing. Perhaps new to linux also. Some to computers even :rolleyes:

I think vmanisme's sticky is a great way to educate new users before they make the jump into rooting and romin'. I hope additions to that sticky continue, perhaps written even in "layman's" terms.
 
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KDE and redhat were the first ones i used. it was on an acer but anyway there are alot of people that are new to the smartphone scene and some of them are so bad its taking the smart out of smartphone lol. Vman's sticky is genius and they should read that first instead of lurking around in the middle of the "book" we have going on here lol. oh and btw, here is Vmans sticky for all newbies > http://androidforums.com/lg-ally/151233-lg-ally-guide-updated-2-29pm-est-8-30-2010-a.html Thanks to Vmanisme, we have this spectactular guide :) and the root guide... i forgot lol. its the first one in All Things Root on this forum.
 
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The one problem I have with CWR is that any time I need to use it I have to flash it. If I don't flash it every time, the phone will attempt to reboot into recovery and just restart instead of going into recovery. Ex. I wanted to make a backup of my phone and when I clicked backup rom the phone would restart, show the lg logo then the android with the exclamation mark logo and then restart back to lg logo then the vzw logo and boot the phone. I have to go back into rom manager and flash cwr and then I can make my backup. This happens every time
 
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so i have the ally and im rooted with velocity .2 with software version 9 and i tried to go back to version 6 its good but when it says to update my software it goes into clockwork recovery.. how do i get the stock recovery back with stock everything.

That happened to me with my recovery too. You need to flash stock recovery back. I posted it and steps a while ago.
 
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Here was my issue with the app...

First of all, I am a new user yes, but don't discredit me. I had step-by-step help by someone who knows what they are doing, and they have absolutely no idea what is happening, either.

I did everything in the steps to install Velocity... and was getting help by not only one, but two people who both know how to use it. When I tried backing up my current Rom, everything was fine at first. It went to the LG screen but no further. The LG screen is the only thing that was there. So, I had to take the battery out and I tried again. No luck again. So, I tried again and again and again and again. No luck, and I kept having to take the battery out. I only had the LG Screen on.

NOW, I try to do a hard reset to just reset my phone, and the same thing... it won't get passed the LG screen. So, I tried going to Settings > Privacy > Restore to Factory Default (or whatever it's called), and the same thing. The LG screen just doesn't leave. And I have to take the battery out. So, I'm kinda screwed. Both people agreed it is probably an issue with clockwork.

I just want to hard reset my phone and be done with it, and I can't!!!
 
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I can confirm robersonj problem. As i was one of the people trying to help her. Seems like to me clockwork refused to fully flash the recovery no matter how many times she flashed it and resulted in a corrupted recovery image.

An experience i had today. I was booted in clockwork taking some screen shots (using my PC to take the screenshots.) When my phone randomly rebooted and did a factory reset. Strange eh?

So on that note i no longer am touching clockwork and sticking with amon-ra (drellisdee's one.)
 
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