Pope Aligns Atheists with Nazis in Speech Today

[Rota]

Papal Visit 2010: Pope’s Holyroodhouse speech – full text|CatholicHerald.co.uk

Religion sure teaches tolerance doesn't it?

 

[Familyguy1]

Surprisingly, Hitler was Catholic/Christian...so....

 

[Rota]

Surprisingly, Hitler was Catholic/Christian...so....

Exactly what I was thinking.

 

[Member243850]

This is crazy!

You can't call an athiest a fascist / nazi!

The pope is nuts!

 

[Vihzel]

Oh silly Pope. You goober!

 

[Member243850]

Hahhahaaa!!

The pope needs counciling...

EDIT

Nope actually! I need councelling hahahhaaa!

 

[bluenova]

Now hold on there. Whilst I disagree with many things the Pope and Vatican preach, you are taking what he said out of context.

Even in our own lifetime, we can recall how Britain and her leaders stood against a Nazi tyranny that wished to eradicate God from society and denied our common humanity to many, especially the Jews, who were thought unfit to live. I also recall the regime’s attitude to Christian pastors and religious who spoke the truth in love, opposed the Nazis and paid for that opposition with their lives. As we reflect on the sobering lessons of the atheist extremism of the twentieth century, let us never forget how the exclusion of God, religion and virtue from public life leads ultimately to a truncated vision of man and of society and thus to a “reductive vision of the person and his destiny” (Caritas in Veritate, 29

He is talking about extremism which as we all know extremism from any front be it Christian, Muslim or Atheist is not a good thing. Many Atheists go about their daily lives without attempting to strip the faith from those who believe and even care for those who do believe. But there has been a rise in Atheist extremism where people attempt to rid the world of religion and this is the link to the Nazis I believe he was making.

Familyguy1 noted the Hitler was a Christian, whilst it is true that he was brought up and confirmed a Christian his messages were very conflicting and often spoke of a need to destroy organised religion.

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[Member243850]

Woopsy!

You are right!

My bad

Thanx dude / dudette!

Keep well

 

[CaptainBeaky]

Mod note taken on board...

As a newcomer I will endeavour to be polite to all, in equal measure.

Incidentally, given that this thread started with a mention of Nazism, does Godwin's Law still apply?

Now hold on there. Whilst I disagree with many things the Pope and Vatican preach, you are taking what he said out of context.

I would disagree that Rota has taken this out of context -

As we reflect on the sobering lessons of the atheist extremism of the twentieth century, let us never forget how the exclusion of God, religion and virtue from public life leads ultimately to a truncated vision of man and of society and thus to a

 

[Sid Bonkers]

Seems I went to bed last night an atheist and woke up this morning a Nazi.

And I'm called this by a man who heads an organisation that will still not fess up to how many kiddie fiddlers and peados they helped escape justice.


I feel nothing but disgust for the Catholic church right now

 

[Familyguy1]

Seems I went to bed last night an atheist and woke up this morning a Nazi.

And I'm called this by a man who heads an organisation that will still not fuss up to how many kiddie fidlers and peados they helped escape justice.


I feel nothing but disgust for the Catholic church right now

You and a lot of other people for the past 1000 years

 

[smacky]

Pulled off of Reddit, because it's true.

Remember not all Muslims are terrorists? Not all Catholic priests say "ah, men" instead of "amen." Not all religious folks are intolerant and extremist. Until atheist extremists realize they're just as bad as religious extremists with their comments and attitude, you all sound like a bunch of whiny, hypocritical ****s. And not one person with different views takes you seriously.

I'll just leave this right here. Go to sleep again and wake up a rational human being.

 

[infil]

I definitely agree that any extremist is deserving of eradication. I guess that makes me an anti-extremist extremist?

Hate of any kind sickens me TBH. Pathological hate that will inspire people to commit extreme acts of brutality and violence, especially targeting innocents, is right up there with Stalin's purges, and the Holocaust IMNSHO(in my not so humble opinion).

I do think those individuals and groups should get treated with the same gloves they would treat those that dont feel the same way they do.

In this case, I would have to question the popes wording. I think the message he intended to get across may have been, if not mis-stated, worded poorly. While no religion is without its extremes and certainly not without its bloodied past(save maybe the tibetans, who i cant recall them being aggressors at any point), I dont think a religious icon like the pope should be singling out any group, athiests, jews, bhuddists, or anyone else.

 

[Crude]

Atheism is just another religion...one where you cater to your self instead of letting some old books tell you what you should do. It's actually a great religion as you can create and change your morals and in the end you don't have to be accountable for your actions.

Sounds like politicians eh?

 

[Rota]

Atheism is just another religion...

This statement reminded me of your sig.

 

[ElasticNinja]

I definitely agree that any extremist is deserving of eradication. I guess that makes me an anti-extremist extremist

You want to eradicate yourself? o.0 [execute the illegals]

 

[CaptainBeaky]

Atheism is just another religion...

Oh dear - maybe I shouldn't feed the troll, but I'm bored at work...

Wrong - atheism is the absence of a religion, or the need for one. It is not the same as "zero is just another number".
0 marks.

one where you cater to your self instead of letting some old books tell you what you should do.

Congratulations - you have got onto the scoreboard.
An atheist has to define his or her own morals without reference to an imaginary friend, or to a book written about someone else's imaginary friend.
"Do unto others as you would have them do unto you" is actually quite a good place to start.
1/2 mark

It's actually a great religion as you can create and change your morals and in the end you don't have to be accountable for your actions.

Oh dear - and you were starting to improve
You are accountable to your own conscience, and also, just in case you had forgotten, the laws of the country you happen to live in.

0 marks.

Total - 1/2 mark out of 3.

Go to the bottom of the class.

 

[Crude]

Then you don't know atheism. Your attempt to insult me is noted but do you really think what I said was wrong? If so you either do not know atheism as well as you think you do or your blissfully ignorant. Either way now I've exposed the supposed lack of position in all these "religion is the problem" threads. Now lets focus on a solution not if a penis or a vagina is better.


pft, 4 posts...rookie.

 

[Rota]

Then you don't know atheism. Your attempt to insult me is noted but do you really think what I said was wrong? If so you either do not know atheism as well as you think you do or your blissfully ignorant. Either way now I've exposed the supposed lack of position in all these "religion is the problem" threads. Now lets focus on a solution not if a penis or a vagina is better.


pft, 4 posts...rookie.

The amount of idiocy in this post is overwhelming.

 

[Familyguy1]

The amount of idiocy in this post is overwhelming.

I agree, granted he is trying his best

 

[Crude]

lol, you guys make me laugh. You really do not have a clue. I thought there is an objective to meet by acting ignorant...nope you really believe what you say.

Wait...believe....from Atheist? Agnostics after all. IOW you have beliefs so your just another religion.

Seriously, get off your high horse

 

[Familyguy1]

wut?

 

[BumAround]

Inscribed on a tomb of an atheist: "All dressed up. Got nowhere to go."

 

[Crude]

Exactly.

 

[Sid Bonkers]

lol, you guys make me laugh. You really do not have a clue.

Wow! now were ignorant nazi's