Do you use a task killer?

[ned4spd8874]

Okay, so I was just wondering who here actually uses a task killer. I've been having a lot of problems and to keep a long story short; the Verizon rep told me that I NEED a task killer on my Inc. He says that HTC also says I NEED one. That although the Android OS has the ability to handle memory and tasks on it's own, the Inc does not since HTC removed that functionality.

I call BS on this guy and was wondering what the community thought? And what your experiences are?

So, if you can, please answer this poll and let's see how full of crap this guy might be.

 

[mike1]

i used a task killer at one point but i realized that it uses more battery itself than it saves

 

[howarmat]

task killer is the devil. anyone running them needs to stop

 

[This_Is_Kyle]

I used ATK when I first bought my phone in April/May and had NO problems. I just recently deleted it (4 days ago) and have had NO problems.

 

[ned4spd8874]

Just in case you guys are wondering. I'm going on my third Inc. My first one started to constantly reboot on me. Sometimes it wouldn't even boot up and just froze at the white HTC screen. The one I have now has started to reboot as well. But not as often. It has also deleted about half my apps at one time for no reason. And also deleted all of my text messages.

As I said, the Verizon rep looked at my phone this past Saturday and blamed it all on it not having a task killer installed.

 

[Terabethia]

As I said, the Verizon rep looked at my phone this past Saturday and blamed it all on it not having a task killer installed.

The Verizon rep is an idiot who doesn't know what the hell he is talking about. No, really! These are not IT Professionals or any other kind of professionals for that matter. These are regular old retail workers who get an hour of training here and their on their products.

There is NO need for a task killer. None. Not now, not even before 2.2.

And the line about HTC "disabling" that feature is a huge load of crap. Sometimes I really have to wonder where they get this stuff from...


If it is SO necessary, I would love to see Verizon explain why so many people have phones that run perfectly fine without any task killers at all? In fact, I have seen more people without them than people with them. And I can name more than one instance that I have personally seen (not counting the tons I have read about here) where task killers were causing a problem.

 

[ned4spd8874]

Yeah, I agree. I don't get it either. It was funny because he was bragging that he's working on some Chrome project for Android with Google. He made himself sound like he knew what the heck he was talking about, but I didn't buy into it.

 

[Terabethia]

Yeah, I agree. I don't get it either. It was funny because he was bragging that he's working on some Chrome project for Android with Google. He made himself sound like he knew what the heck he was talking about, but I didn't buy into it.

Maybe he is, but that doesn't make him knowlegable in Android.

I have a friend that is a computer genius. He has wrote and published 6 books in his field, including one of the best selling Java books on the market. This guy was playing on the internet before most people even knew what the internet was.

He's had an iPhone (in all fairness, he gets free service from AT&T and there wasn't any other decent choices through them) since it's original release and just finally got an Android. So who does my computer genius friend call for advise? Me.

Most people know what they are told. And if they are told bad information, then they only know bad information. That's pretty much what you will get out of the majority of Verizon employee's. Bad information. Or more specifically, the "easy" answer that allows Verizon to ignore problems (install a task killer or factory reset are the answers you get out of them 95% of the time, and conveniently those are two solutions that you have to do yourself and lets them off the hook).

Don't get me wrong, I love Verizon. And I have never personally had a problem with their service. But I also know better than to listen to them when it comes to anything over their pay grade (which is anything more than ringing up my order ).

 

[Roceskt]

No. No need and it's pointless on Froyo.

 

[euph_22]

That although the Android OS has the ability to handle memory and tasks on it's own, the Inc does not since HTC removed that functionality.

Oh dear god. That idiot thinks HTC somehow, for some insane reason, removed the OS's ability to handle memory and tasks?

Check out the Operating System wiki. Count how many times "Memory management", "process management", etc show up. They are 1st and 3rd on the list of "common features".

If you somehow "disabled" that, an OS would almost certain become nearly unusable. They're DEFINITIONAL components of an operating system (along with with I/O control and Interrupt handling, they're the 4 most universal aspects of an OS). It's about the same as a car salesman telling you that Ford installed fuel injection on your Focus, but the dealer removed it and just stuck a hose down each cylinder.

 

[ned4spd8874]

It's about the same as a car salesman telling you that Ford installed fuel injection on your Focus, but the dealer removed it and just stuck a hose down each cylinder.

LOL...I'm going to steal that one.

 

[appleaj]

There's nothing wrong with a task killer and it cannot hurt if you have any idea what you're doing; I'm not suggesting everyone uses one though. I use one as a fast way to see in general what's running and it gives me the ability to quickly terminate any applications that I don't want running (for reasons such as sleep prevention).

It's a misconception that task killers will stop things that are essential to your phone or programs that shouldn't be closed, well that's if you don't know what you're doing or it's a bad program. Yes, I know Android will stop what's necessary to make space, but I'd rather decide for myself what I don't want running. This is particularly helpful for ROM's that don't manage memory that well and let programs run wild.

And I agree, a lot of salesmen are stupid and mislead poor technology ignorant customers in order to sell what they want.

 

[Crashumbc]

There's nothing wrong with a task killer and it cannot hurt if you have any idea what you're doing; I'm not suggesting everyone uses one though. I use one as a fast way to see in general what's running and it gives me the ability to quickly terminate any applications that I don't want running (for reasons such as sleep prevention).

It's a misconception that task killers will stop things that are essential to your phone or programs that shouldn't be closed, well that's if you don't know what you're doing or it's a bad program. Yes, I know Android will stop what's necessary to make space, but I'd rather decide for myself what I don't want running. This is particularly helpful for ROM's that don't manage memory that well and let programs run wild.

And I agree, a lot of salesmen are stupid and mislead poor technology ignorant customers in order to sell what they want.

That doesn't make sense, 99% of the time a task killer can ONLY hurt. The only time it may be good is if you are using a BAD app in which case why are you using a bad app?

It's like traveling to Africa JUST so you have an excuse to go get a malaria shot...

 

[ChiTownJim]

The VZW reps are morons most the time. 95% of us on this forum know more about the Android Devices then them. They gave me the spif about task killers when I bought my first Droid , my2nd , my Incredible and when I got a Fascinate.

I do have a task killer installed on my phone but I do not use it. I have it there in case of a faulting app I can kill it and uninstall it if necessary.

 

[jikhead]

I've been using one after a few weeks of receiving FROYO. There was too much bloatware constantly running destroying my extended battery life. I've gained that back since using an app killer. I still don't like the fact that you can't uninstall the software that VW threw on top of 2.2. I would tend to think this cost them more $$ when you consider the amount of phones that get returned or exchanged out with people complaining about their batteries and such. And as for the VW Navigator...they just need to hang that up and quit trying to get people to use it for $10/mo., instead of free Google Maps/Nav.

 

[howarmat]

for the 435245 time, the bloatware IS NOT CAUSING YOUR BATTERY TO DRAIN. go do some damn research!

 

[KB3MMX]

Okay, so I was just wondering who here actually uses a task killer. I've been having a lot of problems and to keep a long story short; the Verizon rep told me that I NEED a task killer on my Inc. He says that HTC also says I NEED one. That although the Android OS has the ability to handle memory and tasks on it's own, the Inc does not since HTC removed that functionality.

I call BS on this guy and was wondering what the community thought? And what your experiences are?

So, if you can, please answer this poll and let's see how full of crap this guy might be.

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Wow, that's one seriously stupid Verizon Rep !!!
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[KB3MMX]

for the 435245 time, the bloatware IS NOT CAUSING YOUR BATTERY TO DRAIN. go do some damn research!

Amen Matt !!!

 

[KB3MMX]

Just in case you guys are wondering. I'm going on my third Inc. My first one started to constantly reboot on me. Sometimes it wouldn't even boot up and just froze at the white HTC screen. The one I have now has started to reboot as well. But not as often. It has also deleted about half my apps at one time for no reason. And also deleted all of my text messages.

As I said, the Verizon rep looked at my phone this past Saturday and blamed it all on it not having a task killer installed.

More than likely, you have a memory card problem.
If you don't already have a class 4 or higher, you need to get one
for the 720 HD video recording to work correctly.

 

[ned4spd8874]

More than likely, you have a memory card problem.
If you don't already have a class 4 or higher, you need to get one
for the 720 HD video recording to work correctly.

I've tried two different cards. One is a 16GB class 4 and the other one is a 8GB class 8.

 

[KB3MMX]

Just in case you guys are wondering. I'm going on my third Inc. My first one started to constantly reboot on me. Sometimes it wouldn't even boot up and just froze at the white HTC screen. The one I have now has started to reboot as well. But not as often. It has also deleted about half my apps at one time for no reason. And also deleted all of my text messages.

As I said, the Verizon rep looked at my phone this past Saturday and blamed it all on it not having a task killer installed.

Ok, next thing that would make sense would be a malicious app you have used on all 3 phones, I seriously doubt a hardware issue given the repetitive nature of the problem.

 

[ned4spd8874]

Ok, next thing that would make sense would be a malicious app you have used on all 3 phones, I seriously doubt a hardware issue given the repetitive nature of the problem.

When my first one started to constantly reboot, I wiped it and started from scratch. I didn't put anything on there but the basic apps that were already installed and it was still giving me problems.

 

[jikhead]

for the 435245 time, the bloatware IS NOT CAUSING YOUR BATTERY TO DRAIN. go do some damn research!

You're telling me that if certain apps are always restarting themselves and running in the background, that those apps don't contribute to battery drain? Riddle me that...

 

[euph_22]

You're telling me that if certain apps are always restarting themselves and running in the background, that those apps don't contribute to battery drain? Riddle me that...

If they are stopping themeselves and restarting all on their own, then yes you have a valid point. But if they stopped because you killed them, than YOU'RE causing the battery drain. I really suggest you learn how your phone ACTUALLY WORKS instead of mindless reciting the same old, refuted, proATK dogma.

 

[FerrariGuy]

I don't use one. I read they are not necessary.