She's Representative of the Tea Party?

[Vihzel]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=miwSljJAzqg

First BIG mistake... her misunderstanding of what a "scientific theory" is. It is NOT a general "theory" as like a guess, a theory in science is essentially a fact unless further evidence proves on the contrary... which has never been done in terms of the "theory of evolution".

2nd BIG mistake... having absolutely no clue about the amendments of the Constitution. In particular, she shows that she doesn't know The Bill of Rights.

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."

You can clearly hear the law students groaning and laughing at her.

She's running for the Senate? I believe that she's one of those "learn while on the job" kind of people... knowledge before hand isn't important!

 

[Martimus]

She is something else... that's for certain! I loved it when she asked "where in the constitution is the separation of church and state"...

Her chances of winning may not be based on her intelligence and skill at debating. Lets not forget that Minnesota once elected Jessie "the Body" Ventura to be Governor... and of course California regularly elects actors into high political office.

 

[ElasticNinja]

Lets not forget that Minnesota once elected Jessie "the Body" Ventura to be Governor... and of course California regularly elects actors into high political office.

The GOVENATOR!

 

[Snedd]

Why is there no-one in UK politics with that much comedy value

 

[hakr100]

She is the Tea Party, along with all the other fruitcakes running under the Tea Party banner.
There's an interesting article in the Wash Post examining how white racist organizations are "infiltrating" the Tea Party.

NAACP backs report that ties racist groups to tea party



By Krissah Thompson
Washington Post Staff Writer
Wednesday, October 20, 2010; 10:30 PM

A new report, backed by the NAACP, has found what it says are efforts by white nationalist groups and militias to link themselves to the tea party movement.
This Story



The report, called Tea Party Nationalism, uses news articles, visits to white nationalist Web sites and observance of tea party functions to claim that tea party events have become a forum for extremists "hoping to push these (white) protesters toward a more self-conscious and ideological white supremacy."
Its findings cite that members of groups such as the Council of Conservative Citizens, which opposes all efforts to "mix the races of mankind," have become involved in tea party chapters, and that posters on the online white nationalist Web site Stormfront.org have written of "inflitrating" tea party events.
The report was issued by the Kansas City, Mo.-based Institute for Research and Education on Human Rights, which is funded, in part, by the liberal Firedoll Foundation. The paper was authored by Devin Burghart and Leonard Zeskind, both of whom have written widely about white nationalism.

 

[Martimus]

The GOVENATOR!

Yup! And before him, Ronny Raygun!

 

[Martimus]

Why is there no-one in UK politics with that much comedy value

I always thought Hollyweird had a field day mocking Margaret and Sir Denis Thatcher... One example that comes to mind was the scene at the end of the James Bond movie, For Your Eyes Only, where Margaret talked to a parrot (thinking it was Bond) and slapped Denis's hand as he reached for a cookie.

 

[mcatdtDROID]

She is the Tea Party, along with all the other fruitcakes running under the Tea Party banner.
There's an interesting article in the Wash Post examining how white racist organizations are "infiltrating" the Tea Party.

NAACP backs report that ties racist groups to tea party



By Krissah Thompson
Washington Post Staff Writer
Wednesday, October 20, 2010; 10:30 PM

A new report, backed by the NAACP, has found what it says are efforts by white nationalist groups and militias to link themselves to the tea party movement.
This Story



The report, called Tea Party Nationalism, uses news articles, visits to white nationalist Web sites and observance of tea party functions to claim that tea party events have become a forum for extremists "hoping to push these (white) protesters toward a more self-conscious and ideological white supremacy."
Its findings cite that members of groups such as the Council of Conservative Citizens, which opposes all efforts to "mix the races of mankind," have become involved in tea party chapters, and that posters on the online white nationalist Web site Stormfront.org have written of "inflitrating" tea party events.
The report was issued by the Kansas City, Mo.-based Institute for Research and Education on Human Rights, which is funded, in part, by the liberal Firedoll Foundation. The paper was authored by Devin Burghart and Leonard Zeskind, both of whom have written widely about white nationalism.

there are also interesting reports that prove democrats will simply put on a Tea-party t-shirt, and go to the rallies and shout racist rhetoric hoping that it will look like the Tea-party is racist.

Sabotaging the Tea Party

The "Crash the Tea Party" campaign wants to infiltrate the grassroots movement and tarnish its name. But how?

posted on April 15, 2010, at 1:19 PM

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Tea Partiers planning to protest at today's Tax Day Tea Party rallies are on the lookout for liberal infiltrators. Although this might sound like a paranoid conspiracy, a "Crash the Tea Party" movement actually exists. The self-described "nationwide network of Democrats, Republicans and Independents" says it is "sick and tired of that loose affiliation of racists, homophobes, and morons," and aims to blacken the name of the grassroots organization. Just how will they do it? (Watch Sean Hannity's comments on the "Crash the Tea Party" movement)

What is the stated ambition of the Crash the Tea Party movement?
To "exaggerate [the Tea Party's] least appealing qualities" by displaying "misspelled protest signs" and making "wild claims in TV interviews." It is hoped that this will "further distance them from mainstream America and damage the public's opinion of them."

Who is the leader?
Unlike the leaderless Tea Party, this movement has a boss: Jason Levin. The Oregon-based technology consultant says he got the idea from protestors who "outcrazied" protestors from Fred Phelp's controvesial Westboro Baptist Church last January. "[The Westboro people] realized they couldn't get their message out, so they just left," Levin tells Talking Points Memo.

What would be an example of "out-crazying" the Tea Partiers?
"Whenever a tea partier says 'Barack Obama was not born in America,'" Levin says, "we're going be right right there next to them saying, 'yeah, in fact he wasn't born on Earth! He's an alien!'"

How big is the movement?
Levin claims to have 66 member groups preparing to infiltrate Tea Party rallies today.

How is the Tea Party responding?
They are on high alert for fake protestors. Brendan Steinhauser, head of Tea Party group FreedomWorks, told the Washington Post: "We have a strategy to deal with them and a strategy to identify them... Anyone who has a racist sign or an offensive sign, we'll ask them to put it down or leave." Conservative bloggers, meanwhile, are outraged. "It is Saul Alinsky on steroids," fumes Mark Tapscott at the Washington Examiner. "It's a classic KGB-style disinformation campaign."

Could this get violent?
Levin has urged his party crashers not to use violence, but added that they were "free to do as they wish." Many on both sides of the debate fear fights could break out if infiltrators are caught.

Could it backfire for Tea Party opponents?
It certainly could, says Stephen Stromberg at the Washington Post. This "gives Tea Partiers a way to blame the ugly antics at their rallies on malicious outsiders." If it is successful, "Americans might be more willing to believe that the clownish behavior they see at Tea Party rallies is actually the work of Manchurian candidates."

 

[electric monk]

How does that in any way refute the NAACP report? Look at what you quoted. Levin's group aims to parody, not sign up tea partiers for Stormfront's mailing list.

 

[cjr72]

How does that in any way refute the NAACP report?

There's nothing of substance in the NAACP 'report' to refute. It's simply dredging back up the baseless NAACP resolution that was passed back in July in time for the upcoming midterms. Trying to create an association between a candidate or in this case Tea Party leadership (whoever that would be) to extremists by calling on them to repudiate the positions of those extremists that they have no real connection to is one of the oldest political tricks in the book. If you read the 'report' that's what it basically boils down to.

 

[Vihzel]

Lets not get off track!

Christine O'Donnell should not be running for Senate just as Palin shouldn't have been running for Vice President. Why is it that well known female Republicans are shown to be "stupid"?

 

[cjr72]

Why is it that well known female Republicans are shown to be "stupid"?

And why are Republican african americans 'shown' to be Uncle Toms or otherwise traitors to their race? And how would this relate to Democrats desire to continue to paint the GOP as the party of the old white guy?

 

[electric monk]

Nothing of substance?

"On March 20, 2010 a Tea Party protest grew ugly as a small group of congressmen walked through them to the Capitol to vote on health care reform. Chants of

 

[Vihzel]

And why are Republican african americans 'shown' to be Uncle Toms or otherwise traitors to their race? And how would this relate to Democrats desire to continue to paint the GOP as the party of the old white guy?

Is that an answer to my question? Or are you just adding onto it? Im not sure what that's for.

 

[cjr72]

Nothing of substance?

"On March 20, 2010 a Tea Party protest grew ugly as a small group of congressmen walked through them to the Capitol to vote on health care reform. Chants of

 

[hakr100]

And how would this relate to Democrats desire to continue to paint the GOP as the party of the old white guy?

Any number of legit surveys has shown the GOP has been trending older, whiter and more southern since it began to recruit the old Dixiecrats in the middle 1960's. The old-line southern white democratic racists simply switched parties starting then and accelering with the Nixon southern strategy and beyond.

How many black delegates were there to the 2008 GOP convention...veryveryvery few.

 

[cjr72]

Any number of legit surveys has shown the GOP has been trending older, whiter and more southern since it began to recruit the old Dixiecrats in the middle 1960's. The old-line southern white democratic racists simply switched parties starting then and accelering with the Nixon southern strategy and beyond.

How many black delegates were there to the 2008 GOP convention...veryveryvery few.

My point is that there is a special kind of vitriol coming from the left where minority or female conservatives are concerned. Now I don't think Palin is the sharpest knife in the drawer and if she were to get the Republican nomination I think it would be a disaster for the GOP but when the left goes out of their way to accuse Palin of being stupid even when she is correct it speaks to an agenda.

 

[Chaznsc]

Lets not get off track!

Christine O'Donnell should not be running for Senate just as Palin shouldn't have been running for Vice President. Why is it that well known female Republicans are shown to be "stupid"?

Im going to cross swords with you on this topic because she's absolutely correct. There is no separation of C & S in our constitution. Thats a literal point that is subject to interpretation. In fact, its the interpretation of liberal judges that have brought in those words. She isnt stupid, its a matter of what you want to think / beleive. But the media is just dead wrong on making fun of her on the issue. There simply is no separation. You cannot separate me from my belief system any more than you can pull the sunlight out of daytime. The internt of the constitution was to NOT have a state inspired religion. The measures we have gone to in this country in the stretching of the initial intent has been spread so thin we cant even see the original words. We are about 2-shakes from being RULED by the Judicial Branch in this country.

The media is responsible for labeling people as stupid or smart. Have you heard some of the complete rubbish that comes from Pelosi? Barbara Boxer? Its all a matter of focus. The media doesn't report news, they drive down our throats what THEY want us to think. And we fall for it.

Take for instance the importance WE put on what Hollywood icons think. If Brad Pitt stated tomorrow that only red cars save on fuel, the media would report is as gospel. Why? He's an ACTOR! He knows as much about the world as my kids do. Just because he makes movies doesn't make him smarter than you or I.

BUT I DIGRESS..............back on topic chaz!

Perhaps she has no business running, perhaps she does. We have a sitting president, however, with 180 days under his belt in the Senate, and no other leadership experience.

I agree to disagree with you, but there is another viewpoint to be shared.

chaz

 

[batgeek]

The media is responsible for labeling people as stupid or smart. Have you heard some of the complete rubbish that comes from Pelosi? Barbara Boxer? Its all a matter of focus. The media doesn't report news, they drive down our throats what THEY want us to think.

finally. someone that gets it. well kinda...

people are smart or stupid, that's a given. it isn't so much the fact that the media labels them, it's the fact of how the media portrays them.

the predominantly liberal media isn't going to "bite the hand that feeds them". and stupid sells better than smart. to wrap it up: it's all about the Benjamins.

 

[Vihzel]

I must say that it wasn't the media laughing and groaning at her in the video... they were law students. If you take the Constitution as extremely literal, there is no separation of church and state. In today's world though and not in her fairytale world... there is a separation of church and state as interpreted by the Supreme Court from the Establishment Clause together with the Free Exercise Clause. If she wants to live in her world where there is no separation of church and state... well, that's great for her. Perhaps a future court will reverse the decision made back in the 1940s and 50s and say that there is no such thing. I would assume that can only happen with strict constitutionalists where if it's not explicitly stated in the Constitution, it doesn't exist. In public education, there should be education of creationism (intelligent design)? That's a specific viewpoint from a group of religions that alienates other religions, thus giving preference.

 

[Chaznsc]

How about this snippet from the illustrious Harry Reid. Why doesnt the mainstream media pick this up........(because they dont want to)

Breitbart.tv Reid: ‘But For Me, We’d Be in World-Wide Depression’

 

[Chaznsc]

I must say that it wasn't the media laughing and groaning at her in the video... they were law students. If you take the Constitution as extremely literal, there is no separation of church and state. In today's world though and not in her fairytale world... there is a separation of church and state as interpreted by the Supreme Court from the Establishment Clause together with the Free Exercise Clause. If she wants to live in her world where there is no separation of church and state... well, that's great for her. Perhaps a future court will reverse the decision made back in the 1940s and 50s and say that there is no such thing. I would assume that can only happen with strict constitutionalists where if it's not explicitly stated in the Constitution, it doesn't exist. In public education, there should be education of creationism (intelligent design)? That's a specific viewpoint from a group of religions that alienates other religions, thus giving preference.

Law Students - Again, they aren't scholars, in fact, they might as well be art students, they are learning.....and have been pre-programmed with no ideas of their own. (See my comment on Hollywood)
Interpretation by Supreme Court - Go back and read my clip on this country being a few inches short of being RULED by the Judiciary.
Creationism - Thats religion? (The second law of thermodynamics is that things tend to disorder....... thats not religion, thats science! We didnt fall out of a tree somewhere. We didn't evolve randomly into what we are. It doesn't work like that. If you ever get a chance to see Kent Hovind, I'd highly recommend it.

 

[NYCHitman1]

Rent is too damn high party > tea party

 

[ElasticNinja]

Creationism - Thats religion? (The second law of thermodynamics is that things tend to disorder....... thats not religion, thats science! We didnt fall out of a tree somewhere. We didn't evolve randomly into what we are. It doesn't work like that. If you ever get a chance to see Kent Hovind, I'd highly recommend it.

What so monkeys devolved from us?
I really worry for the US's education system.
Next ye will be telling me fairtrade is bad.
karzies

 

[Crude]

Separation of church and state was designed to keep the state out of the church not the church out of the state.