Root Is UD really that good?

[Bramsy]

CM is pretty pretty fast and my batt is doing GREAT.


Not missing any of ud's customizations

 

[binglejellsx2]

RC2 baby............ didnt purchase Rom Manager, google helped me out though

You might be sad to find out CM6.1.0 RC3 was likely released as you DL'd RC2. LOL.

 

[Bramsy]

Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

 

[Bramsy]

nope, not out yet

 

[Bramsy]

i lied

CyanogenMod-6.1 for Motorola Droid V6.1.0-RC3 (10/31/2010) Happy Droid-o-ween! - CyanogenMod Forum

 

[ballmore]

I just got done typing 3 paragraphs and was getting ready to submit it when my hand hit something on my keyboard and deleted the whole thing.

O well.......... life sucks sometimes.

The Ultimate Droid with the proper Kernel is the best choice for my Droids so far.

 

[kratos]

UD is by far the most feature packed ROM I have tried yet. Granted, I haven't tried CyanogenMod yet, but from what I hear, it still doesn't have the settings UD has.

UD is fast, reliable, and highly customizable.

Kratos

 

[androidlover14]

UD is fast, reliable, and highly customizable.

Kratos

You forgot to put that battery life has only been good for a few people. not including me.
haha

 

[ballmore]

I'd have to say that the battery life is "normal." Alot of it may depend on what kernel you are using. But you also have to remeber that U.D. is really packed with features so it's gonna be more taxing than say Bugless Beast and other roms that don't have some much running in the background. I'm using a Slayher kernel on my main Droid and a P3Droid kernel on the other. I honestly don't notice a difference in battery drain compared to other roms or when I was unrooted.
Here is something that I want to know. Is that a deal breaker for you? Does your battery go all the way into the yellow before you are able to put your phone on the charger? As long as it doesn't completely die on you, no matter what rom you are using you will always be better off compared to having a stock Droid.
I'm not trying to start anything either. This is just my humble opinion.

 

[monsterenergy22]

I flashed UD 1.0 from CM 6 a few days ago, and I haven't been happier!

After running it for about 2 weeks I will say that this ROM just isn't for my phone. This is the slowest and buggiest I have ever seen it. Stock kernel and no themes or anything special. I have it OC'd with SetCPU and have the internal OC disabled and it still is like a snail.

If it is slow on yours, guess it just doesn't like your phone.

 

[Mrwirez]

I went from BB .5 to UD 7.8 to CM 6.1 rc3... AND THE WINNER IS: BB.5

I went back to BB, I always do..

I realize CM 6.1 is a rc, but I have done this before when newer versions come out.. UD has the most features, CM is the most stable, but BB.5 is a great mix of speed and battery life.. I completely wipe everything every time a new rom comes out, so Force Close is never an issue..

 

[breadnatty08]

I went from BB .5 to UD 7.8 to CM 6.1 rc3... AND THE WINNER IS: BB.5

I went back to BB, I always do..

I realize CM 6.1 is a rc, but I have done this before when newer versions come out.. UD has the most features, CM is the most stable, but BB.5 is a great mix of speed and battery life.. I completely wipe everything every time a new rom comes out, so Force Close is never an issue..

Well, you should really give UD2.0 a shot. It's a hair faster than 1.0, and just as feature rich (and plenty stable to boot). I'm not sure what Pete's been up to, but haven't seen too many releases from him lately. Curious too that he tweeted a week or so ago about starting to build source ROMs. Interested to see what he come's up with.

 

[monsterenergy22]

UD 1.0.0 was terrible and made my phone super slow, so I went back to the latest CM and I am liking it so far. Im gonna give the latest UD a shot tosee how it is.

 

[Bunsen Honeydew]

Well, you should really give UD2.0 a shot. It's a hair faster than 1.0, and just as feature rich (and plenty stable to boot). I'm not sure what Pete's been up to, but haven't seen too many releases from him lately. Curious too that he tweeted a week or so ago about starting to build source ROMs. Interested to see what he come's up with.

From his twitter, it looks like he is compiling from source now and BB 0.6 is in the works.

UD 2.0 is great, but it has some bugs that can be fixed by modding the .zip before installing. After that, it is awesome.

 

[bigdroiddog]

I have to agree with everyone saying lfy1.71 was one of the best, i kept it on my phone for over a month. I have not tried 1.8 or 1.9 yet. So i have been reading for a while about UD and i was normally a big fan on jrummy's roms and chevys roms. Well i finally tried UD2.0 and i have to say by far it has the most customizations, its almost unreal what you can do. It s also fluid, working great, i think lfy and ud are leading the pack now, i have not tried shadow, charity or mIUI roms yet.

 

[stmartin84]

I really enjoy UD. Haven't plunged into 2.0 yet, I've heard too many bugs. I have never loaded a kernel on top of UD, but thinking about it. Don't know why, but just hope that a couple glitches resolve. Battery life is not that good as it stands now and with WiFi tether it sometimes works and mostly does not. I don't think a kernel will fix either one but worth a shot.

What is a good kernel to use with UD? Can you uninstall a kernel after you install it? How do you install a kernel? What does a kernel actually do?

 

[The_Chief]

A kernel is basically the foundation supporting the operating system (or ROM). It controls the CPU and other functions to make everything work. There are many kernels out there, and every Droid reacts differently to the same kernel... what works great on mine might throw yours into a bootloop. I recommend putting several kernels on your SD card, and then flashing them one at a time. If you have problems with a 1.2GHz kernel, try a 1.1GHz and on down until your Droid is happy. I'm lucky in that my Droid has taken everything I've ever thrown at it without a bootloop.

You can't remove a kernel, just install kernel.zip over the old one without wiping data. DO NOT WIPE when installing a kernel.

 

[stmartin84]

A kernel is basically the foundation supporting the operating system (or ROM). It controls the CPU and other functions to make everything work. There are many kernels out there, and every Droid reacts differently to the same kernel... what works great on mine might throw yours into a bootloop. I recommend putting several kernels on your SD card, and then flashing them one at a time. If you have problems with a 1.2GHz kernel, try a 1.1GHz and on down until your Droid is happy. I'm lucky in that my Droid has taken everything I've ever thrown at it without a bootloop.

You can't remove a kernel, just install kernel.zip over the old one without wiping data. DO NOT WIPE when installing a kernel.

for example, say I download a kernel and it doesn't work right. Can I use a Nandroid backup and restore my system as if it never had another kernel on it? Doesn't UD 1.0 come with slayers 1.2 ghz kernel?

Any advice to the wifi tether issue? I'm taking a road trip this week and my wife and kids would love to use the laptop or the ipod to get on the internet.

 

[The_Chief]

Yes. Your nandroid backup will restore your phone to THAT state, kernel and all. I'm not sure what wifi tether issue you're having, as mine works well.

 

[stmartin84]

Yes. Your nandroid backup will restore your phone to THAT state, kernel and all. I'm not sure what wifi tether issue you're having, as mine works well.

Weird. It just starts tethering (or at least says it is) and then I try to connect to it via a laptop or ipod, but nothing. Oh well.

 

[kratos]

for example, say I download a kernel and it doesn't work right. Can I use a Nandroid backup and restore my system as if it never had another kernel on it? Doesn't UD 1.0 come with slayers 1.2 ghz kernel?

Any advice to the wifi tether issue? I'm taking a road trip this week and my wife and kids would love to use the laptop or the ipod to get on the internet.

Yes, you can always restore nandroid backups. The stock kernel that BlackDroid uses is only an 800MHz kernel. If you want to overclock more than that, you will need to flash a different kernel. I think your best bet would be to put multiple kernels on your SD and if one doesn't work, try another.

I use Chevy's 1.1GHz LV kernel and have never had a problem with it. You can find a list of kernels and info about them in this sticky: http://androidforums.com/droid-all-...de-updated-october-11th-2010-11-05pm-est.html.

As for the "WIFI" tether, what app are you using? There are a few available on the market. I think the most popular one is Wireless Tether for Root Users.

Kratos

 

[stmartin84]

Yes, you can always restore nandroid backups. The stock kernel that BlackDroid uses is only an 800MHz kernel. If you want to overclock more than that, you will need to flash a different kernel. I think your best bet would be to put multiple kernels on your SD and if one doesn't work, try another.

I use Chevy's 1.1GHz LV kernel and have never had a problem with it. You can find a list of kernels and info about them in this sticky: http://androidforums.com/droid-all-...de-updated-october-11th-2010-11-05pm-est.html.

As for the "WIFI" tether, what app are you using? There are a few available on the market. I think the most popular one is Wireless Tether for Root Users.

Kratos

Hey Kratos, good hearing from you again! WifFi, I am using with Wireless Tether for Root Users. What happens is I click to start tethering, wait a few seconds and then try to connect, it usually does not release an IP address to the media in which I'm trying to connect from. I didn't know if there was an issue using UD with this app or even a particular setup routine that I need to do so that wireless tether for root will work right.

Trying to find how/where to download Chevy's kernel. Can you provide me a download page/link?

 

[kratos]

Hey Kratos, good hearing from you again! WifFi, I am using with Wireless Tether for Root Users. What happens is I click to start tethering, wait a few seconds and then try to connect, it usually does not release an IP address to the media in which I'm trying to connect from. I didn't know if there was an issue using UD with this app or even a particular setup routine that I need to do so that wireless tether for root will work right.

Trying to find how/where to download Chevy's kernel. Can you provide me a download page/link?

Links first (because they are the most fun) LOL:

The following list is an older kernel and these kernels DO have interactive governor. However, they are not the most recent. My kernel is from this list.
Index of /froyo/kernels2

The following list is the most up to date kernels, but they DO NOT have the interactive governor.
Index of /froyo/kernels3

If you don't care about the interactive governor, then use one from the second (most up to date) list. The interactive governor (just in case you don't know) attempts to anticipate when you will need more speed and ramps up the processor accordingly (within the set max/min limits). I have no idea how this actually works, but I assume that it work like this: You turn on your screen, it ramps up the processor in anticipation of the redraw of your homescreens. Then you click browser and it ups the speed slightly to open, but then anticipate heavier usage in the browser and therefore ups it even more after the browser has loaded.

Again, I'm not 100% sure about that, but it makes sense that that would be what it does.

As for the Wireless Tether, I have found that some devices don't connect right away. I have turned off encryption, turned off access control, set the channel to one in the 1-6 range, and set my LAN to 192.168.1.0. This app has a larger range for the channel than a lot of devices and that can sometimes create problems. I have no idea why, but whenever I change my LAN, nothing ever connects. If I keep my LAN at 192.168.1.0, my devices play nicely with it. The encryption works, but seems to cause small issues with devices connecting in a timely fashion. And finally, Access control works great for all my devices, except my iPod Touch. When I turn off access control, my iPod Touch can connect.

If your device supports Bluetooth PAN, try using that instead of WIFI.

Something else you may want to try is on your device side. If your computer is able to connect to your phone, but you don't have internet (local only), try repairing the connection. Then, release and renew your IP. This will sometimes force the IP to "jump start" and give you an internet connection.

Kratos

 

[stmartin84]

Links first (because they are the most fun) LOL:

The following list is an older kernel and these kernels DO have interactive governor. However, they are not the most recent. My kernel is from this list.
Index of /froyo/kernels2

The following list is the most up to date kernels, but they DO NOT have the interactive governor.
Index of /froyo/kernels3

If you don't care about the interactive governor, then use one from the second (most up to date) list. The interactive governor (just in case you don't know) attempts to anticipate when you will need more speed and ramps up the processor accordingly (within the set max/min limits). I have no idea how this actually works, but I assume that it work like this: You turn on your screen, it ramps up the processor in anticipation of the redraw of your homescreens. Then you click browser and it ups the speed slightly to open, but then anticipate heavier usage in the browser and therefore ups it even more after the browser has loaded.

Again, I'm not 100% sure about that, but it makes sense that that would be what it does.

As for the Wireless Tether, I have found that some devices don't connect right away. I have turned off encryption, turned off access control, set the channel to one in the 1-6 range, and set my LAN to 192.168.1.0. This app has a larger range for the channel than a lot of devices and that can sometimes create problems. I have no idea why, but whenever I change my LAN, nothing ever connects. If I keep my LAN at 192.168.1.0, my devices play nicely with it. The encryption works, but seems to cause small issues with devices connecting in a timely fashion. And finally, Access control works great for all my devices, except my iPod Touch. When I turn off access control, my iPod Touch can connect.

If your device supports Bluetooth PAN, try using that instead of WIFI.

Something else you may want to try is on your device side. If your computer is able to connect to your phone, but you don't have internet (local only), try repairing the connection. Then, release and renew your IP. This will sometimes force the IP to "jump start" and give you an internet connection.

Kratos

If I use your second link and it does NOT have the interactive governor will it do everything automatically then? If so, do I want to start off with the LV or the ULV or Medium?

I'll give the try you suggested with the Wifi tether. Thanks.

 

[kratos]

If I use your second link and it does NOT have the interactive governor will it do everything automatically then? If so, do I want to start off with the LV or the ULV or Medium?

I'll give the try you suggested with the Wifi tether. Thanks.

Yea. I typically set my scaling to On Demand as this will ramp up the processor only after it is needed. This means that when the processor load gets high, it will then up the speed. Where as the interactive one will attempt to do that before the load gets that high.

The voltage is completely up to you and you will need to see how your Droid performs with the one you choose. Some Droids perform better with a ULV instead of the LV, and so on. I would try the ULV ones first and go from there. If you don't get a boot loop with the kernel you installed, give your Droid a few days to calm down, let the kernel settle in, and allow you time to really see how your Droid reacts to the kernel. If after a few days your Droid just isn't performing how you would like it, flash a different kernel.

I have not tried any kernels above 1.1GHz because I don't really think there would be a large enough speed boost to warrant the slightly larger kernel. In fact, I have mine overclocked to 1.0GHz unless I am plugged in, then I allow it to overclock to 1.1GHz. This is because I just don't see much of an increase in speed from 1.0 to 1.1 to warrant it.

I also have profiles set up to underclock in certain circumstances (temp higher than a set amount, battery lower than a certain percentage, etc) to help conserve battery and save my Droid from getting too hot.

Hope that helps give you an idea of where to start.

Kratos