Anyone boycotting the TSA scanners tomorrow?

[A.Nonymous]

I have been just as pissed off about the new scanners as everyone else and I get the pleasure of traveling tomorrow. I don't think the scanners have arrived at my airport yet. If they are there tomorrow, I plan on boycotting them. It's just too invasive for me and protects against practically nothing IMO. The national boycott of the scanners is tomorrow. Anyone else traveling and plan on participating?

 

[Member138406]

I am traveling tomorrow.. I hope tons of people do this so the line is short =)

 

[Vihzel]

I am. I'm not flying tomorrow but I'll boycott in spirit.

 

[NYCHitman1]

I am traveling tomorrow.. I hope tons of people do this so the line is short =)

Like Vegas said, the lines will be much shorter. I've got no problem with showing a little skin to ensure that nobody is carrying bombs or weapons on board a plane.

 

[lrv]

The only time you're wasting is your own. TSA doesn't care if you fly or not, and if you don't allow a search, you're simply not flying. It's no skin off their back.

Flying is like gasoline to some people. No matter how high the price, or what you must do to get it, it's still a necessity.

By the way, it's not invasive. You're choosing to fly. Their house, their rules.

 

[A.Nonymous]

The only time you're wasting is your own. TSA doesn't care if you fly or not, and if you don't allow a search, you're simply not flying. It's no skin off their back.

Flying is like gasoline to some people. No matter how high the price, or what you must do to get it, it's still a necessity.

By the way, it's not invasive. You're choosing to fly. Their house, their rules.

It is invasive though. Even the TSA chief has said it's invasive. His argument is that if you want to be safe, you must be invasive. The scanners don't even see through skin though. I could shove a bomb up my wazoo and walk right through the scanners without setting them off.

 

[lrv]

It is invasive though. Even the TSA chief has said it's invasive. His argument is that if you want to be safe, you must be invasive. The scanners don't even see through skin though. I could shove a bomb up my wazoo and walk right through the scanners without setting them off.

If they're invasive, don't fly.

 

[nyydynasty]

i dont see ANY problem with these scanners and everyone is making a huge deal over nothing. Just walk through the damn scanners and lets get on with the day!! No one wants to save a picture of the outline of your weeny and post it online. Its not the large. walk thru it so we can move on with our lives.

one person makes a big deal over things and everyone else follows like little monkeys.
kthxbye

 

[ScorpDX]

I don't mind the scanners. I'll go through it and ask the operator how my d**k measures up to everyone else! Really, stop being such a prude and worrying that someone will see your tiny pecker!

 

[lunatic59]

I find it mildly hypocritical that the boycott promoters seem to be okay with making the worst travel day of the year even worse and messing up other people's travel arrangements to protest "their rights." Message to those people ... air travel is a privilege, not a right. Don't like it? take the bus ... or drive.

Let me pose this question to those who object to body scanners ... when your doctor sends you for "invasive" diagnostic tests including strangers poking, prodding and seeing your "junk", both live and in detailed images which ARE stored for distribution to other strangers in order to protect you from attack by a sinister disease ... do you opt out?

 

[baberz]

I don't really care because I don't see myself driving up to Boston just to avoid someone seeing the shape of my boobs or cooch. Yes they might be going a little over board, but people are still going to fly. period.

 

[byteware]

I'm actually disgusted.

I've read the news that says 80% of Americans think this is ok.

My God, so much American blood has been spilled to ensure we had these rights, and you all just give them up without a fight.

We have gone from a nation of principle and freedom to a nation of cowards. And of that I'm ashamed.

I'm ashamed of my military service to this country, I'm ashamed to have defended your rights, and I think that each and every one of you that is willing to just give up their rights like this owes every American who has spilled blood or lost their lives on the battlefield. You owe them a refund. They paid a price for your freedom, and you owe that back to them.

That's about all I can say on this topic... it just infuriates me so much.

 

[lrv]

I'm actually disgusted.

I've read the news that says 80% of Americans think this is ok.

My God, so much American blood has been spilled to ensure we had these rights, and you all just give them up without a fight.

We have gone from a nation of principle and freedom to a nation of cowards. And of that I'm ashamed.

I'm ashamed of my military service to this country, I'm ashamed to have defended your rights, and I think that each and every one of you that is willing to just give up their rights like this owes every American who has spilled blood or lost their lives on the battlefield. You owe them a refund. They paid a price for your freedom, and you owe that back to them.

That's about all I can say on this topic... it just infuriates me so much.

Flying isn't a right.

 

[A.Nonymous]

i dont see ANY problem with these scanners and everyone is making a huge deal over nothing. Just walk through the damn scanners and lets get on with the day!! No one wants to save a picture of the outline of your weeny and post it online. Its not the large. walk thru it so we can move on with our lives.

one person makes a big deal over things and everyone else follows like little monkeys.
kthxbye

Pics from these machines have already leaked online along with security footage associating people with the images. It's already happened.

If they're invasive, don't fly.

You forget that the TSA works for me. I have a right to demand less invasive means that are safer. It's sad that they have these things basically because they have a powerful lobby in DC, not because they make anyone safer. Keep flying. Go through the scanners. Enjoy seeing your naked body online. Enjoy the skin cancer you'll get in 5-10 years.

 

[A.Nonymous]

Flying isn't a right.

Not being seen naked in public is.

 

[byteware]

Flying isn't a right.

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

But let's play this game... what else isn't a right.

Driving.

Eating at Taco Bell.

Having a job.


Just because you don't have the right to do something, doesn't mean that by doing it, you give up your right to unreasonable searches and seizures.




Driving isn't a right, but just because you drive doesn't mean that they can search your vehicle without probable cause.

It doesn't mean that they can search you, just so you can drive either.

It would be a violation of your rights.


You owe every veteran of every war in the history of this nation every second of their lives that they sacrificed, every limb that they lived without, and every drop of blood that they left on the battlefield so that you could have these rights.

You owe that back to them. If you are going to give up the rights that they sacrificed for... you owe them.

 

[NYCHitman1]

lol, this thread delivers!

 

[lrv]

Pics from these machines have already leaked online along with security footage associating people with the images. It's already happened.

You're right, and there is no excuse. However, that doesn't justify completely going off track of their original intent, to keep people safe.

You forget that the TSA works for me. I have a right to demand less invasive means that are safer. It's sad that they have these things basically because they have a powerful lobby in DC, not because they make anyone safer. Keep flying. Go through the scanners. Enjoy seeing your naked body online. Enjoy the skin cancer you'll get in 5-10 years.

Seriously, you're going to use that excuse, when the fact of the matter is you're getting ready to get in a radiation box, anyway?

Not being seen naked in public is.

Once again, the leaked images are ridiculous. There is no excuse. Personally, I could care less about someone seeing my scanned images in public, because you can't typically put a face with a body from those images alone. However, like I said, there is no excuse and someone should be held accountable for it.

But let's play this game... what else isn't a right.

Driving.

Eating at Taco Bell.

Having a job.

Just because you don't have the right to do something, doesn't mean that by doing it, you give up your right to unreasonable searches and seizures.

They have deemed this to not be unreasonable search and seizure. Fight all you want, but I, along with many other people in this thread alone, agree with the searches. I'll be happy to be one of many people searched, as long as I know I'm safe on the plane.

Driving isn't a right, but just because you drive doesn't mean that they can search your vehicle without probable cause.

It doesn't mean that they can search you, just so you can drive either.

It would be a violation of your rights.

It's not reasonable, nor possible, to search every person entering a vehicle. I've never seen a vehicle cause as much damage as the planes from 9/11.

 

[lunatic59]

But let's play this game...

Okay, let's ...

Just because you don't have the right to do something, doesn't mean that by doing it, you give up your right to unreasonable searches and seizures.

No one is forcing anybody to be scanned. They make it a prerequisite to entering the airport, just like they make possessing a valid passport a requirement to enter the country.

Driving isn't a right, but just because you drive doesn't mean that they can search your vehicle without probable cause.

It doesn't mean that they can search you, just so you can drive either.

No, but it does mean they can mandate periodic vehicle safety inspections, taking and passing a vehicle operators test and possessing liability insurance as a prerequisite to being permitted to use the state and federal roads.

I suppose sobriety checkpoints are also a violation of the fourth amendment.

You owe every veteran of every war in the history of this nation every second of their lives that they sacrificed, every limb that they lived without, and every drop of blood that they left on the battlefield so that you could have these rights.

You owe that back to them. If you are going to give up the rights that they sacrificed for... you owe them.

Stop waving that flag around, you'll put someone's eye out.

 

[A.Nonymous]

You're right, and there is no excuse. However, that doesn't justify completely going off track of their original intent, to keep people safe.

And you can make a strong argument that they don't actually keep you safe. If I show a gun in my waistband, you'll see it with these scanners. That same gun will still set off the metal detector. The intent is noble. The execution is laughable.

Seriously, you're going to use that excuse, when the fact of the matter is you're getting ready to get in a radiation box, anyway?

It's how the radiation is dispersed more than anything. It's dispersed directly at your skin (by design) rather than being absorbed and dispersed through your body like a normal x-ray would. Not to mention the fact that experts on these things have claimed that scanning more than 1,000 people a day could be extremely hazardous to one's health long term. You and I as flyers may be perfectly safe if we don't fly that often. The TSA agents are never going to be able to have kids. Just saying.

Once again, the leaked images are ridiculous. There is no excuse. Personally, I could care less about someone seeing my scanned images in public, because you can't typically put a face with a body from those images alone. However, like I said, there is no excuse and someone should be held accountable for it.

The images that leaked showed the body scans and images from a security camera side by side so you could easily match bodies with scans. I realize a lot of people don't care if they're seen naked on the Internet. I'd rather not be one of them though.

The risk is there. The people who leaked the images violated rules and protocols. No question about it. They ought to be punished. No disagreement. You can't get those pictures back from the Internet though. Once it's out there, it's out there.

They have deemed this to not be unreasonable search and seizure. Fight all you want, but I, along with many other people in this thread alone, agree with the searches. I'll be happy to be one of many people searched, as long as I know I'm safe on the plane.

There are no 4th ammendment issues here. There's legal precedent for that. I don't think the scans make us any safer though.

 

[IOWA]

I bet the airlines losing money care. I'm boycotting flying altogether. If the airlines lose enough money, you better believe they'll get rid of these stupid ass scanners/searches.

And there is no better time than NOW to fight for your rights. If you don't fight for your rights, your spitting in the eye of all the servicemen who put THEIR lives on the line so you can come here and bitch about how you don't get your Android update on time, instead of having to worry about catching a bullet or a bomb on a daily basis.

 

[nyydynasty]

Pics from these machines have already leaked online along with security footage associating people with the images. It's already happened.

even if it WERE leaked, how the f- are you supposed to know its yours.

WHO CARES!

 

[RiverOfIce]

Lol. Ok three things here.
1.) Two Quotes, from people that found this country and had to live with daily terrorism.
Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.-Ben Franklin.
A Constitution of Government once changed from Freedom, can never be restored. Liberty, once lost, is lost forever.- John Adams.

2.) It is not about safety, it is about keeping you afraid. Because if you are afraid you will be willing to give up your liberty for money, they get more money. You understand it always has been about money right?

3.) [/edited]

 

[IOWA]

even if it WERE leaked, how the f- are you supposed to know its yours.

WHO CARES!

Seriously?

-I really want to say something here, and it isn't nice and would end up getting me banned I'm sure.

And for me to curb my speech, of all people on here, you know it's bad.

 

[nyydynasty]

seriously. walk thru the damn scanners and lets move on with our lives please. its painful enough to go thru security in airports. lets not make it worse.