Verizon iPhones sold out in minutes.

[Rush]

I guess some Verizons customers were just waiting for an opportunity to get their hands on an IPhone. The iPhone is and will continue to be one of the most demanding phone ever.


Even though I'm not a huge fan of Apple's iPhone... I have to admit the demand for an IPhone is overwhelming.


What's your thought on this topic?

 

[bigbadwulff]

I agree. The phone IS demanding...

 

[IOWA]

"Sold out" sadly, is a relative term, since Verizon hasn't (and usually doesn't) release any sales figures. They could have had 6 devices and still claimed to have "sold out"

 

[Frisco]

It must have been a lot:

"Verizon Wireless Chief Executive, Dan Mead said in a statement that in its first two hours of iPhone sales the company 'had already sold more phones than any first-day launch' in its history."

Verizon halts iPhone sales after best first day | Reuters

 

[PSkeptic]

baleeted

 

[Member138406]

Not really surprising, it is a nice phone for a lot of peoples wants and needs. Apple also has amazing advertising.

 

[pool_shark]

I didn't understand the popularity of the first gen iphone since it couldn't do cut/paste, video, or mms.

Now it's a decent device. It isn't as customizable as Android or even Windows Mobile, but it's simple to use and has a ton of apps to do almost anything the user wants.

Not everyone cares about customization. Some people are terrified of technology, powering on and starting an app is all they can handle.

 

[Frisco]

I didn't understand the popularity of the first gen iphone since it couldn't do cut/paste, video, or mms.

Most first time buyers of the iPhone were likely doing it because they were successfully impressed by the ads, which addressed what the device could do, not what it could not do.

 

[Rush]

I didn't understand the popularity of the first gen iphone since it couldn't do cut/paste, video, or mms.

Yet still IPhone users bought them regardless. In fact it didn't have video recording either... most customers didn't seem to mind, and waited until it was implemented..

I remember when the Palm Pre phones didn't have video recording - and the critics make a huge fuss of this, but the iPhone was praised from first introduce. I'm not here bashing on the iPhone... I'm just saying some phones get more love than others.

 

[Dark Guitar Lord]

It seems that the iPhone will always be popular due to ease of use and available apps. I will admit I did enjoy my 3GS but, when it comes to customization and use, I love the Android experience. Those sales truly do not surprise me. I would like to see a final number on those pre-sale figures.

 

[icyfire]

Most first time buyers of the iPhone were likely doing it because they were successfully impressed by the ads, which addressed what the device could do, not what it could not do.

Well one of the huge pros of the first iPhone was the internet browser. Let's face it, every other mobile browser at the time was an abomination (Nokia, W-Mo, etc).

 

[IOWA]

Well one of the huge pros of the first iPhone was the internet browser. Let's face it, every other mobile browser at the time was an abomination (Nokia, W-Mo, etc).

I disagree. Skyfire for WinMo was way ahead of everyone else. It even could play flash videos.. and this was 4+ years ago.

 

[jamor]

They don't need advertising.

Their buzz is so good that everyone including people on Android does all of the free advertising for them like this and the dozens of other threads.

It's because of you guys that @ppl3 does so well.

 

[icyfire]

I disagree. Skyfire for WinMo was way ahead of everyone else. It even could play flash videos.. and this was 4+ years ago.

I was referring to the usability of the browser, not to any specific features. Flash is great but if you can't navigate around the page without wanting to chuck the phone at the wall, than I'd say it's a more pressing matter.

 

[Outlaw71]

This is GREAT news! If indeed the iPhone reclaims the lead in the cellphone device war, then you'd better hold onto your hats because Google isn't the sort of company that lays down when taking a beating. Oh goodness, we thought the evolution of these things was going fast now, the pace is about to ramp up 10 fold after this news. Goody, goody, gum drops!

The only bad part of this is, this certainly isn't a sign that consumers are concerned with 'unlocked' devices. So it gives no incentive to Motorola or any of the other OEM's to launch devices with unlocked bootloaders. Although... I guess from what I've heard the iPhone is pretty easy to jailbrake, which I guess is pretty much the same thing, right? Can you replace the kernel on the iPhone?

 

[Frisco]

They don't need advertising.

It's because of you guys that @ppl3 does so well.

It's great that some users don't post in iPhone discussions.

http://androidforums.com/lounge/271469-verizon-iphones-sold-out-minutes.html#post2232807

 

[jamor]

It's great that some users don't post in iPhone discussions.

http://androidforums.com/lounge/271469-verizon-iphones-sold-out-minutes.html#post2232807

No idea what you are trying to infer so I'll let it slide.

 

[NYCHitman1]

The only bad part of this is, this certainly isn't a sign that consumers are concerned with 'unlocked' devices. So it gives no incentive to Motorola or any of the other OEM's to launch devices with unlocked bootloaders. Although... I guess from what I've heard the iPhone is pretty easy to jailbrake, which I guess is pretty much the same thing, right? Can you replace the kernel on the iPhone?

As far as I know, you cannot change kernels on iOS. I thought the sole purpose of folks jailbreaking their iPhone was simply to install the hacked App Store thus allowing them to acquire extensions, themes, etc..

 

[lunatic59]

I think there are two camps involved here ... those who already have iPhones and hate AT&T and those who hate AT&T so much they refused to get an iPhone even though they wanted one. (see a pattern?) These are the people rushing to the stores. The iPhone has been around long enough for people to understand what it's all about.

 

[mrspeedmaster]

I was referring to the usability of the browser, not to any specific features. Flash is great but if you can't navigate around the page without wanting to chuck the phone at the wall, than I'd say it's a more pressing matter.

You are absolutely correct. The killer app for the 1st gen iPhone was mobile safari. Just the photo of the iPhone dangling in the glass stand with the New York Times fully rendered like a desktop pc was what made me get one... At the time, i had a Nokia MID, two or three Windows Mobile devices, and a few Palm. None of them had the capable browser like Safari. None of them. Despite the fact it EDGE only, it was the first mobile browser that allowed people do mobile banking and avoid wap sites.

 

[mrspeedmaster]

As far as I know, you cannot change kernels on iOS. I thought the sole purpose of folks jailbreaking their iPhone was simply to install the hacked App Store thus allowing them to acquire extensions, themes, etc..

You can do a lot of things with a jailbroken iPhone. It is even more of a hacker's toy than a rooted Android device. Compiling any GNU apps makes a jailbroken iPhone like any UNIX computer. E.G. You can compile Apache, MySQL, run PHP, Nexxus. nMap, with a few compile and make commands. You don't even need GUI apps anymore. Everything is in the command line. Install a SSH daemon, easy. Install Apache, easy. Install Samba, easy...
You turn it pretty much from a phone into a UNIX workstation. You can even install Debian and load Android on it.

I used a jailbroken iPhone with nMap and Python to nuke and generate BSODs on Windows 7 machines for fun like Trinity in the last Matrix film. This is why iPhone are still very popular with hackers. Wifi tethering, you don't need an app for it. A simple bash script does it for you since the very 1st gen jailbroken iPhone.

A rooted Android phone still has issues. E.G. in order to run any real root POSIX stuff, you need BusyBox. I still haven't seen an easy way to compile GNU apps on Android without having some issues. I have seen any NON dalvik GUI apps that do not require an apk to run. E.G. , you can't run ./zenmap or ./wireshark from the commandline on a rooted Android.

 

[Outlaw71]

You can do a lot of things with a jailbroken iPhone. It is even more of a hacker's toy than a rooted Android device. Compiling any GNU apps makes a jailbroken iPhone like any UNIX computer. E.G. You can compile Apache, MySQL, run PHP, Nexxus. nMap, with a few compile and make commands. You don't even need GUI apps anymore. Everything is in the command line. Install a SSH daemon, easy. Install Apache, easy. Install Samba, easy...
You turn it pretty much from a phone into a UNIX workstation. You can even install Debian and load Android on it.

I used a jailbroken iPhone with nMap and Python to nuke and generate BSODs on Windows 7 machines for fun like Trinity in the last Matrix film. This is why iPhone are still very popular with hackers. Wifi tethering, you don't need an app for it. A simple bash script does it for you since the very 1st gen jailbroken iPhone.

A rooted Android phone still has issues. E.G. in order to run any real root POSIX stuff, you need BusyBox. I still haven't seen an easy way to compile GNU apps on Android without having some issues. I have seen any NON dalvik GUI apps that do not require an apk to run. E.G. , you can't run ./zenmap or ./wireshark from the commandline on a rooted Android.

Interesting stuff indeed. So I take it you can replace the kernel then?

 

[Frisco]

No idea what you are trying to infer..

You're here participating in a thread about iPhone, despite saying, "It's because of you guys that @ppl3 does so well."

Don't take offense, please, none is intended. It just seemed amusing in an otherwise serious (to some) thread.

 

[Outlaw71]

This 'rush to iPhone' on Verizon certainly isn't a surprise to anyone. If you were to withhold Android for 5 years from a major carrier like Sprint for instance, launch day for a Droid... ANY Droid, would result in the same scenario.

Basically we're seeing a balancing out between carriers I would assume. I'd say once the smoke clears you will see a pretty sizable chunk missing from AT&T's customer base, and an exact same size chunk added to Verizons. Sure there are many Android users on Verizon who are switching over to the iPhone as well, but it will eventually even out. Android devices outsell the iPhone on AT&T's network, after this initial 'trial' period is over, the waters will calm once again, and the same trends that were prevelant before Verizon had the iPhone, should once again continue.

Unless the iPHone 5 has something up its sleeve so tantilizing that even the most diehard Android lovers won't be able to resist...... and we all know that ain't gonna happen.

 

[Member138406]

We should have a Apple subforum... There is an apple/jobs/iphone thread like daily.