Thunderbolt or iPhone 4???

[Outsider(Avid HustlaZ)]

So the new phone from HTC i believe is called the Thunderbolt which is suppose to be VZW's first 4g phone nd now they got the iPhone 4 coming out..which one would you get? And which do you think will be better?

 

[byteware]

The IPhone, imho, isn't worth it. If you enjoy courting edge tech, get the newest Android phone. Plus, if 4G is coming to your area soon,i would also go with 4G over 3G.

But those are my opinions. I personally won't but an Apple device after they intentionally bricked jailbroken phones.

 

[jlewis74]

iPhone 4 is not 4g correct?

 

[Deleted User]

iPhone 4 is not 4g correct?

Correct. The "G" in Iphone refers to the 4th generation of the Iphone. The "G" when talking about cell technology refers to the 4th generation of cellular wireless standards. Current Iphone 4G is on 3G network. The next generation of Iphone--5G--might very well be on the 4G network.

 

[Deleted User]

Correct. The "G" in Iphone refers to the 4th generation of the Iphone. The "G" when talking about cell technology refers to the 4th generation of cellular wireless standards. Current Iphone 4G is on 3G network. The next generation of Iphone--5G--might very well be on the 4G network.

The iPhone 4 is not the "iPhone 4G"

The iPhone 5 will not be the "iPhone 5G"

Just clarifying because it's a pretty widespread misconception.

As a speculative aside, I highly doubt the iPhone 5 will be 4G. It might be HSDPA+, which T-Mobile and AT&T are calling 4G (P.S. WTF is AT&T going to call their LTE network to differentiate it from HSDPA+ if they've already used "4G"?). But it won't be a fourth generation network like WiMax or LTE.

Apple is not an early adopter, 4G coverage isn't widespread enough, and the chipsets are still too battery-intensive.

 

[pool_shark]

If you want a decent phone with simplicity and ease of use, go with the iphone.

If you want a decent phone with the ability to customize with few limitations go with the thunderbolt.

 

[Deleted User]

The iPhone 4 is not the "iPhone 4G"

The iPhone 5 will not be the "iPhone 5G"

Just clarifying because it's a pretty widespread misconception.

You are correct. I should have been clearer. I should have said "when many people talk about the the Iphone 4G...they're talking about the 4th generation." Take a look at this link at Amazonhttp://www.amazon.com/Otterbox-Defender-iPhone-White-Black/dp/B0048CEBRY, for example. They refer to the case as an Otterbox for Iphone 4G. Apple does not have the "G" in the name. They just call it the Iphone 4.

 

[LoyalServant]

I want a thunderbolt.
I like the ability to change what the thing looks like every so often... and the iWidgets notifications are horrid as is it's nonexistent multitasking.

 

[swagner53]

I think I will wait the extra month or so for the Bionic. The dual core processor will keep it cutting edge a bit longer and I like Moto's quality better than HTC (I am confident our awesome dev's will get around bootloaders, etc).

All of that said, I would NOT enter a 2 year contract on a 3g phone right now so the iPhone is out. If I wanted to wait till summer for the iPhone5 it may be competitive. Agreed that it is too locked down though and I prefer the ability to customize in Android. If simplicity and elegance are what you want the iPhone is a good phone, just not cutting edge anymore.

 

[lexluthor]

I was going to suggest similar to what swagner53 said.

Pricing for new phones appears to be consistently $200, so if you don't need a phone immediately, you might want to wait for a dual core phone/4g capable phone.

I don't think the Thunderbolt is that big of a jump over the Droid X.

The big unknown is really when that phone (or similar) will be released. The bionic could easily not be released until June, you just never know.

If you really wanted an iPhone, I'd give the same advice and wait a few months for the iPhone 5.

If you need a phone now though, others offered advice between the 2.

 

[dguy]

I think I will wait the extra month or so for the Bionic. The dual core processor will keep it cutting edge a bit longer and I like Moto's quality better than HTC (I am confident our awesome dev's will get around bootloaders, etc).

All of that said, I would NOT enter a 2 year contract on a 3g phone right now so the iPhone is out. If I wanted to wait till summer for the iPhone5 it may be competitive. Agreed that it is too locked down though and I prefer the ability to customize in Android. If simplicity and elegance are what you want the iPhone is a good phone, just not cutting edge anymore.

It's not going to be until late 2013 when Verizon has 4G coverage everywhere they have 3G coverage now.

 

[byteware]

It's not going to be until late 2013 when Verizon has 4G coverage everywhere they have 3G coverage now.

Can you link that, because last I heard they were supposed to have total coverage by April next year.

 

[Steven58]

To me, the Thunderbolt seems like a quickly thrown together evo for verizon. Although, I'm able to get 4g here, I'd like to wait for something worth the upgrade. To me, the Thunderbolt isn't enough of one over the DX. The iPhone is a lateral move. Nice screen, smooth OS, but nothing really earth shattering over the DX. (I saw the iPhone in the Apple store in NYC, last weekend.. eh.. it's good. It's okay, but not enough to make me make a move.)

Just my 2 cents. Carry on.

BTW, I moved this over here from the DX section. I couldn't see it having anything to do with the DX. It's more a shmoozy topic and not necessarily android-y. If you have an issue with this move, lemme or a mod know and we'll move it.

 

[bigbadwulff]

I would make (damn) sure you have 4G in your area before getting a 4G phone. I wouldn't trust a sales rep if they say "we will have 4G by(insert date here)......"

 

[HustlinDaily]

To me, the Thunderbolt seems like a quickly thrown together evo for verizon. Although, I'm able to get 4g here, I'd like to wait for something worth the upgrade. To me, the Thunderbolt isn't enough of one over the DX. The iPhone is a lateral move. Nice screen, smooth OS, but nothing really earth shattering over the DX. (I saw the iPhone in the Apple store in NYC, last weekend.. eh.. it's good. It's okay, but not enough to make me make a move.)
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Going to have to disagree on the "quickly trown together Evo for Verizon part." It is a Desire HD with a kickstand, front facing camera and 32GB included Micro SD.

This new generation of HTC phones (including the DHD, Inspire, TB) blow away the Evo (as it should since it is much newer). Only similarity is the very good 4.3" WVGA Super-LCD, 5MP camera w/ 720p. Pretty much everything else is improved.

-Aluminum build looks/feels better than Evo's plastic build (personal preference)
-Newer Qualcomm processor. Stable overclock at higher speeds, better at handling graphics.
-768MB of RAM v 512MB of RAM
-8GB built in storage PLUS INCLUDED 32GB MicroSD v 1GB plus 8GB MicroSD
-And most importantly, HTC SENSE 2.0 with access to htcsense.com (Apple makes you PAY for MobileME while HTC gives you the same thing for FREE)- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHO9A9Zf5g8&feature=player_embedded

 

[Steven58]

The map tells me I have 4g in my area. I'm right between NYC and Philly. Also, besides the upgraded ram, you have the same processor. It's just not enough of a jump to make me jump.

(see what I did there?)

 

[dan330]

that is a no brainer....

why would anyone get the iphone 4 now????? really???
apple upgrades their phone every summer like clockwork!
so get the iphone 4 now.. in 4 months you will do what?

Thunderbolt is 4G.... if you are not in a 4G area...
still a better phone!
it is the updated awesome EVO!
still a better phone than the old iphone 4.


which would I get??? come on.

 

[zerocool79346]

The map tells me I have 4g in my area. I'm right between NYC and Philly. Also, besides the upgraded ram, you have the same processor. It's just not enough of a jump to make me jump.

(see what I did there?)

Not the same processor. Not even close. The highest overclock the OG Snapdragon could handle (Incredible, Desire, EVO...etc) could handle was about 1.2ghz and that was while being, possibly, the most battery INefficient processor to be put in a smartphone. The new Snapdragon has been (stable) OC'd to 1.8ghz and is leagues and lightyears ahead of its predecessor as far as battery goes.

 

[mikedt]

No contest.

iPhone 4 is locked into iTunes.
Android phones(most of them) are not locked into proprietary software.

iPhone 4 will be obsoleted by the iPhone 5 in June anyway. Apple tend to be quite predictable on this.

Apple:-
Winter, new Macs.
Summer, new iPhones.
Autumn, new iPods.

 

[Outsider(Avid HustlaZ)]

A lot of hostility...nd to the guy who moved the convo here its cool..i myself have a DX i love the android os im not a big fan of apple unless we were talking about computers but other than that its all about the DROIDS nd i live in PHX, AZ so this is a 4G state here already..i think..but please keep the convo going...

 

[jayjay1122]

I've gotta go with Steven on this (and as I've stated in another thread), the Thunderbolt looks like the Evo and Nexus 1 got together and had a child. OTHER than the 4G aspect (which I would only have half the time anyway) there is no quantum leap in technology over what is out now.

 

[NYCHitman1]

I wouldn't buy either. If I were on Verizon and I had an upgrade available, I would wait for the BIONIC!

 

[dan330]

I've gotta go with Steven on this (and as I've stated in another thread), the Thunderbolt looks like the Evo and Nexus 1 got together and had a child. OTHER than the 4G aspect (which I would only have half the time anyway) there is no quantum leap in technology over what is out now.

that is what I thought at first..
but it has the newer scorpion cpu.. so the better gpu too.
this will give it more performance and battery life... over the evo.

and the kickstand lets it stand both landscape and portrait

 

[jayjay1122]

that is what I thought at first..
but it has the newer scorpion cpu.. so the better gpu too.
this will give it more performance and battery life... over the evo.

and the kickstand lets it stand both landscape and portrait

True Dan, although my concern is that the improved battery performance may be negated by other aspects of the phone and that the gains will be a wash.

For all those who go this route, I hope I am wrong!!!

Kickstand is pretty cool though!

 

[gallandof]

that is what I thought at first..
but it has the newer scorpion cpu.. so the better gpu too.
this will give it more performance and battery life... over the evo.

and the kickstand lets it stand both landscape and portrait

did they go with the next gen snapdragon? the biggest thing keeping me away was the GPU of the snapdragon processor being slow. (evo has trouble with games like dungeon defenders which i love)