So ATT is offering the Inspire for $99....

[dcfresh7]

Wouldn't it be nice if VZW would do the same with the TB! I mean, they're pretty much the same exact phone right?

 

[bgator]

Wouldn't it be nice if VZW would do the same with the TB! I mean, they're pretty much the same exact phone right?

The Inspire has 4 GB of internal memory and is expandable to 36 GB. The TB has 16 GB internal RAM and comes with the 32 GB card, making it have 48 GB out of the box.

Also, the LTE radio might add some further cost to the TB over the Inspire.

 

[2003vstrom]

yeah I just saw ATT official announce that the Atrix will be released the March 6th and pre orders started today and thats cheaper than the TB. go figure at least they have a offical release date we are all still wondering when the TB will come

 

[2003vstrom]

The Inspire has 4 GB of internal memory and is expandable to 36 GB. The TB has 16 GB internal RAM and comes with the 32 GB card, making it have 48 GB out of the box.

Also, the LTE radio might add some further cost to the TB over the Inspire.

actually it`s 8 internal 768 ram and 32 gb sd installed for total 40 gb

 

[sean76]

Seriously, if they're going to blame the price on that 32 Gig card...well they could keep it! There is no justification in charging what they are for the Thunderbolt. at&t has the right idea...$499 for the Atrix if your locked in the contract. I believe its $199 for the phone and $200 for an early upgrade...Worlds apart from this $749 being thrown around...its the principal, not the money in my eyes! If 4G radios are that expensive for vzw then don't produce them until price comes down. Not cool to rip off the hard working public.

 

[bgator]

actually it`s 8 internal 768 ram and 32 gb sd installed for total 40 gb

I stand corrected. Sometimes it's hard to keep all the specs on these phones straight.

 

[2003vstrom]

I stand corrected. Sometimes it's hard to keep all the specs on these phones straight.

no problem I`m starting to wonder if I should jump to the Atrix and forget TB, the way BB and VZ are handling this release date for the TB

 

[rdalcanto]

The TB also has a better CPU. They are not the same phone. Also AT&T has to do something to keep from loosing all of its customers because of it poor network. If you want cheap, change network.

 

[jayishere]

AT&T blows as stated, they had to do something.

the TB is a beast, and I'll gladly pay $250.

 

[HKM]

I see alot of miss information. Far as this thread goes only reason ATT has that offer is so they can suck the life out of you and when you do sign that contract with DeatStar lol if you think you getting Ins for cheap then you will get whats coming to you trust me lol. No one gets away with AT&T.

The Inspire has 4 GB of internal memory and is expandable to 36 GB. The TB has 16 GB internal RAM and comes with the 32 GB card, making it have 48 GB out of the box.

First of all its ROM not RAM. Also you think storage justify the price? LOL lookup the NAND markup price for general consumer and convert it GB to dollar.

The TB also has a better CPU. They are not the same phone. Also AT&T has to do something to keep from loosing all of its customers because of it poor network. If you want cheap, change network.

You don't know what your talking about as TB and Ins is both using same line 2GS SoC with AMD Z460(Adreno205) gpu as they both using 768mb ddr and 2GS is clocked at same 1ghz frequency it will produce same results. In simple term the CPU between TB and Ins is just mare of CDMA/GSM applcation SoC and they are same.

 

[Depth Afield]

no problem I`m starting to wonder if I should jump to the Atrix and forget TB, the way BB and VZ are handling this release date for the TB

I wouldn't jump ship for Atrix, what with the Bionic around the bend.

Truth be told, I am on the fence between the TB and Bionic. Whichever comes out sooner gets my $.

What make my head explode is the Atrix preorders already here, while Bionic is scheduled for...?

 

[HKM]

Well Depth Afield then you have to understand that Bionic is using dualcore and has less memory but it is however using ddr2. For now don't worry about dualcore as OS is not optimized for it even if you do want it then go with HTC based, as thats what ill wait for even when Opt 2x looks good I won't go with it.

TB is very sexy device :O I wish it was GSM and I would buy it for $750 as I did with HD2(Leo1024 got it 4months before came out legally in USA). Keep in mind phone's lifespan is 6month as new device comes out always so get what you need and don't worry about whats going to come lol or you will be stuck in a very tight place as you will never able to decide.

When I needed new phone as my phone was stolen I didn't want to wait till Q1/Q2 for phone to come out so I got MT4G as it using near same spec as TB/DHD/Ins. TB is total package and only turn off was it being CDMA on VZ. I buy phone direct without contract as I don't like signing them and TMo has the best price plan for me so it was deal breaker hope HTC really drop some GSM based phones as we still lack 4.3" replacement for HD2 other than DHD=Ins(DHD US Model).

 

[Depth Afield]

Well Depth Afield then you have to understand that Bionic is using dualcore and has less memory but it is however using ddr2. For now don't worry about dualcore as OS is not optimized for it even if you do want it then go with HTC based, as thats what ill wait for even when Opt 2x looks good I won't go with it.

Do not misunderstand me. I get the lack of dual-core support thing. I do like the faster RAM however. What I do not understand is how the Atrix is already being wheeled out, but that VZW's comparable device (the bionic) is in limbo somewhere.

Like I mentioned, I am just going to get whichever is available first (TB or Bionic, that is). There are tradeoffs, to be sure. Both are in a dead heat in my brain.

 

[HKM]

lol technically the ram is not faster even when it is using ddr2 due to higher latency.

Now keep in mind I know if anyone here understand how memory is allocated you will bring up case latency issue. B what you have to understand is yes ddr2 does have higher CL but since ddr2 runs at double external data bus clock rate as ddr it can provide twice the bandwidth at the same latency thus improvement over ddr.

 

[bgator]

no problem I`m starting to wonder if I should jump to the Atrix and forget TB, the way BB and VZ are handling this release date for the TB

I'm seriously debating between the two. I'll probably go with the Atrix b/c I care more about the dual core processor than I do Verizon's LTE network. And I'd rather have the smaller 4" screen.

 

[bgator]

First of all its ROM not RAM. Also you think storage justify the price? LOL lookup the NAND markup price for general consumer and convert it GB to dollar.

It was my mistake to call it RAM. I didn't proofread my post. But if you're trying to clear up misinformation (check your spelling) it's not ROM.

I suppose you could call it EEPROM, or more commonly flash memory. But really, who cares?

 

[HKM]

Thank you for agreeing with what I was saying without even knowing nor understanding it. But this is what happens when people who don't understand what they are talking about google things and post things right of Wiki. NAND = ROM, I don't know how else to say this but if its non volatile then its ROM. Now I can go in full detail of extended memory controller and how data is allocated and stored and changed, refreshed if you like. Since when is it not ROM? You might want to check what flash memory, nand is classified under.

"Again if its volatile = RAM, non volatile = ROM"

 

[rushmore]

Seriously, if they're going to blame the price on that 32 Gig card...well they could keep it! There is no justification in charging what they are for the Thunderbolt. at&t has the right idea...$499 for the Atrix if your locked in the contract. I believe its $199 for the phone and $200 for an early upgrade...Worlds apart from this $749 being thrown around...its the principal, not the money in my eyes! If 4G radios are that expensive for vzw then don't produce them until price comes down. Not cool to rip off the hard working public.

Agreed. Folks that pay this much for a moderate chipset upgrade will feel punked in just a few months and especially late summer or the fall, when the Qcom dual core devices ship and more Tegra 2 options.

 

[jayishere]

lol the Aspire sucks compared to the TB

 

[ckochinsky125]

Agreed. Folks that pay this much for a moderate chipset upgrade will feel punked in just a few months and especially late summer or the fall, when the Qcom dual core devices ship and more Tegra 2 options.

Some people think they need the first of something and then will be upset when in a month or so something that blows it out of the water is out and then they complain.

 

[jayishere]

what exactly is going to blow the TB out of the water?

 

[ckochinsky125]

what exactly is going to blow the TB out of the water?

Im sure most if not all of the phones that the companies are working on now for summer or fall release. But people on here will bitch no matter what I mean look at the people complaining that it wasnt released the 14th.

 

[jayishere]

I dunno about that, unless there Quandrant scores are 2500+

 

[ckochinsky125]

I dunno about that, unless there Quandrant scores are 2500+

Ha yeah because quadrant scores mean so much for daily use. But if thats how you base how good a phone is then I guess good seeing a high number. For me I would worry more about everyday performance and actually being able to make it through a whole day using my phone. Now maybe HTC will learn someday to put a bigger battery in their phones or configure them to be more efficient and last longer.

 

[HKM]

Love it when people who don't understand talk about numbers that no way ever translate in to anything meaningful much less even can be compared in given scale.

I dunno about that, unless there Quandrant scores are 2500+

You guys are aware that synthetic benchmark means nothing right? When we talk about Quadrant it will favor Snapdragon over Hummingbird due to the way ARMv7 set uses instruction set. However if you look at NS it scores 4000+ score and is the current highest device to archive that yet my MT4G beats it in performance.

How do I know all of this? I have done extended testing on all device up to end of jan. Now far as Hummingbird goes only good thing about it is the SGX540 which is slightly better than Adreno205(AMD Z460). Far as NS goes using TrinityOC kernel if you understand how its implemented using slab/sqlb you can score higher just on benchmark which will not translate in to performance. As MT4G is sharing same spec with DHD/TB with 2GS/768mb ddr/AMD z460 due to how memory is allocated it beats NS.

In simple term benchmark means nothing so don't let it get to your head and most people like us who due benchmark we "create" it that way as its not fake but its not 100% real also as its just think of it as lab testing lol as you will not able to replicate it as we modify it heavily to achieve it just for the "show". Also remember all chips are not equal as performance will vary even depending on the same line SoC's.