Samsung Galaxy S2 vs. LG Optimus 2X and S2 Benchmarks

[BatfinkUK1]

With the release dates in the UK for these two high-end devices likely to be quite close;

LG Optimus 2X 21/03/2011 LG Optimus 2X #LGSTARDOP - eXpansys UK

Samsung Galaxy S2 EDIT: 18/04/2011http://www.expansys.com/samsung-i9100-galaxy-s-ii-16gb-209114/

Which one are you going to spend your hard earned cash on?


PS. I've posted this same thread in the LG 2X forums.

 

[jinwons]

I think Optimus 3D is more direct competitor to Galaxy S2 than 2X.

 

[THE ANDROID]

Galaxy S2.

 

[BatfinkUK1]

I think Optimus 3D is more direct competitor to Galaxy S2 than 2X.

The LG 3D is an a class of its own what with the display and 2 cameras to record 3D footage. If the the LG Optimus Black was dual core then that would have been a better comparison.

 

[jinwons]

I know that Optimus 3D is in its own class. But even if we take out its 3D features from consideration it's still very potent phone that can easily rival Galaxy S2. It looks like TI OPMAP4 is more powerful than nvidia Tegra 2. I like to see how Samsung manages to optimize 2.3 gingerbread, file system, memory on S2. It will be interesting to compare the performance of these two phones when they go on sale later.

 

[Markiz]

I know that Optimus 3D is in its own class. But even if we take out its 3D features from consideration it's still very potent phone that can easily rival Galaxy S2. It looks like TI OPMAP4 is more powerful than nvidia Tegra 2. I like to see how Samsung manages to optimize 2.3 gingerbread, file system, memory on S2. It will be interesting to compare the performance of these two phones when they go on sale later.

what does it matter which one is faster, when there are not going to be any games or applications to really push the limits? btw, tegra 2 is faster, but with smaller batteries of the phones using it, and the fact that it seems it is more power hungry, i would always choose exynos, because i want my phone to be MOBILE. and again, with nothing present to really be able use all that processing power, it just wasted.

heres the early benchmarks of the GPU-S, tegra2 vs exynos:
Samsung's Galaxy S II Preliminary Performance: Mali-400MP Benchmarked - AnandTech :: Your Source for Hardware Analysis and News

 

[jinwons]

what does it matter which one is faster, when there are not going to be any games or applications to really push the limits? btw, tegra 2 is faster, but with smaller batteries of the phones using it, and the fact that it seems it is more power hungry, i would always choose exynos, because i want my phone to be MOBILE. and again, with nothing present to really be able use all that processing power, it just wasted.

heres the early benchmarks of the GPU-S, tegra2 vs exynos:
Samsung's Galaxy S II Preliminary Performance: Mali-400MP Benchmarked - AnandTech :: Your Source for Hardware Analysis and News

Thanks for the link.
Exynos based S2 seems a little behind Tegra 2 based 2X especially in Flash benchmark. A little disappointing for S2. Maybe software on S2 is not so well optimized yet for Exynos... I like to see where 3D would sit in that benchmark charts.

 

[gilgehmesh]

what does it matter which one is faster, when there are not going to be any games or applications to really push the limits? btw, tegra 2 is faster, but with smaller batteries of the phones using it, and the fact that it seems it is more power hungry, i would always choose exynos, because i want my phone to be MOBILE. and again, with nothing present to really be able use all that processing power, it just wasted.

heres the early benchmarks of the GPU-S, tegra2 vs exynos:
Samsung's Galaxy S II Preliminary Performance: Mali-400MP Benchmarked - AnandTech :: Your Source for Hardware Analysis and News

The graphics benchmarks do not look valid. Why would Samsung switch to Mali 400 if it's not better than Hummingbird's PowerVR SGX540 according to these benchmarks. It's even slower than Adreno 205 in GLBenchmark 2.0 Egypt!! I would not take these benchmark seriously. Wait for the review of the production units. It's probably immature driver issues. Remember they claimed that it was supposed to be 5x faster than their previous generation graphics (Hummingbird's PowerVR SGX540) but these benches show it lagging it! If this is really valid, then Mail 400 must suck donkey balls.

 

[chocobosandwich]

Kind of sad that people are relying on poorly optimized benchmarks for gaming instead of the actual games. Like Futuremark scores when the grafix companies cheat by altering their drivers to boost scores that never show up in real game benchmarks.

 

[Shocky]

Thanks for the link.
Exynos based S2 seems a little behind Tegra 2 based 2X especially in Flash benchmark. A little disappointing for S2. Maybe software on S2 is not so well optimized yet for Exynos... I like to see where 3D would sit in that benchmark charts.

You need to wait for release; it's just been announced so I doubt the software is finalized.

But from what I understand they both use the same basic CPU, Dual Core Cortex A9, the difference seems to be the GPU and this is where Exynos should shine the most.

The PowerVR chip in hummingbird is only a little slower than Tegra 2 and the GPU in Exynos according to Samsung is 5x faster than the PowerVR chip, so either they need to fix this performance before launch or the benchmarks they are using are not fully utilizing the GPU for some reason.

The only other alternate is that Samsung are lying to us about performance.

 

[Trev186]

Samsung S2

64 GB of memory combined with the 1GB of ram and Dual Core wins hands down

For those who are saying there are not enough apps out there get over it...with the advent of these phones there will be

At this rate Dual core will be the standard on all phones next year Just like when 1 GHZ phones came out last year

I am looking froward to how this will speed up console emulation on our Android phones

I will not be happy until I can play a Ps2 on my phone so bring on the power

That and SDXC support would be nice sometime next year so we could potentially have 2TB in our phones.

 

[Roze]

This is a preliminary performance review from Anandtech.com
Samsung's Galaxy S II Preliminary Performance: Mali-400MP Benchmarked - AnandTech :: Your Source for Hardware Analysis and News

Someone technical, can you explain what some of these benchmarks mean? All I know is that for most, the SGSII looks pretty good, lol. Are these tests a good indication of how well the phone performs relative to the other smartphones?

The GPU accelerated UI used in Android 2.3.1 makes the Galaxy S II feel a bit faster than the Tegra 2 phones, however that's not always the case. While web page loading feels comparable between the Atrix 4G and the Samsung Galaxy S II, Tegra 2 appears to handle flash a bit better than Samsung's Exynos. This is a pretty significant difference in our Flash benchmark, however it does translate into a somewhat less smooth experience when scrolling around web pages with Flash

 

[mrvirginia]

no, and i would actually not post these. this is not indicative of the performance of the Exynos chipset because the software is not only unfinalized, but driver support is probably not up to speed. i mean, look at the Egypt benchmark where the Hummingbird is actually beating the Exynos. it's supposed to be 5x as powerful as their last chipset

 

[Roze]

no, and i would actually not post these. this is not indicative of the performance of the Exynos chipset because the software is not only unfinalized, but driver support is probably not up to speed. i mean, look at the Egypt benchmark where the Hummingbird is actually beating the Exynos. it's supposed to be 5x as powerful as their last chipset

hmmm....I see.

 

[jinwons]

You need to wait for release; it's just been announced so I doubt the software is finalized.

But from what I understand they both use the same basic CPU, Dual Core Cortex A9, the difference seems to be the GPU and this is where Exynos should shine the most.

The PowerVR chip in hummingbird is only a little slower than Tegra 2 and the GPU in Exynos according to Samsung is 5x faster than the PowerVR chip, so either they need to fix this performance before launch or the benchmarks they are using are not fully utilizing the GPU for some reason.

The only other alternate is that Samsung are lying to us about performance.

I hope you are right. Either 2.3 OS or driver is not fully optimized yet for Exynos to unleash its true potential. Don't know how well those benchmarks are utilizing multi-core GPUs though. Hopefully Samsung addresses it before launching.

BTW, HTC show at MWC this time is pretty underwhelming with no dual cores. I think their dual core snapdragon phone is definitely in the work. I wonder when it will hit the market and how powerful its Adreno 220 GPU is.

 

[mrvirginia]

yah, i'll be waiting for the international model to be reviewed before i draw any conclusions regarding performance. i'm thinking the Exynos is going to be the best performing, though.

on top of that, the only Tegra 2 device worth getting right now is the LG Optimus 2X which is only out in EU currently.

i do, however, think it's pretty cool that the international S2 will be completely compatible with AT&T, likely meaning it'll be the only version without carrier bloatware

 

[Roze]

yah, i'll be waiting for the international model to be reviewed before i draw any conclusions regarding performance. i'm thinking the Exynos is going to be the best performing, though.

on top of that, the only Tegra 2 device worth getting right now is the LG Optimus 2X which is only out in EU currently.

i do, however, think it's pretty cool that the international S2 will be completely compatible with AT&T, likely meaning it'll be the only version without carrier bloatware

Oh that is very interesting that the SGSII would have the GSM/UMTS 850/1900 frequencies that AT&T uses. Usually international phones contain 900/1700 frequencies that is compatible with TMo. I wonder if the SGSII is petaband for UMTS?

 

[mrvirginia]

Oh that is very interesting that the SGSII would have the GSM/UMTS 850/1900 frequencies that AT&T uses. Usually international phones contain 900/1700 frequencies that is compatible with TMo. I wonder if the SGSII is petaband for UMTS?

UMTS. HSPA+ compatible with AT&T, not just voice. or so this is what i've read. i've also read conflicting reports as well.

it's almost like Samsung just announced it and didn't specifically go over important stuff. example, for the longest time everyone AT the announcement thought it was Tegra 2 enabled. there's a video of a CNET chick who says it. so there's a lot of confusion regarding some of the official specs of the device.

i'm wondering what's taking so long for more information to come about.

 

[Roze]

UMTS. HSPA+ compatible with AT&T, not just voice. or so this is what i've read. i've also read conflicting reports as well.

it's almost like Samsung just announced it and didn't specifically go over important stuff. example, for the longest time everyone AT the announcement thought it was Tegra 2 enabled. there's a video of a CNET chick who says it. so there's a lot of confusion regarding some of the official specs of the device.

i'm wondering what's taking so long for more information to come about.

Well prior to anything official, most of what went around on the SGS2 were rumours and what was told from 'inside source'. I think the confusion that Samsung would be using Tegra 2 as its Dual Core Orion processors was still in development and wouldn't be in production until later this year. Exynos processor wasn't even in the rumourmill, lol. I think it was last week that Samsung announced officially Exynos.

 

[mrvirginia]

Well prior to anything official, most of what went around on the SGS2 were rumours and what was told from 'inside source'. I think the confusion that Samsung would be using Tegra 2 as its Dual Core Orion processors was still in development and wouldn't be in production until later this year. Exynos processor wasn't even in the rumourmill, lol. I think it was last week that Samsung announced officially Exynos.

yep, that's what i heard too. you think with them announcing Exynos that most people would put two and two together lol but i suppose not

 

[jinwons]

But there were also good number of sources that got it right, claiming that S2 will have Orion. The Tegra 2 rumor was triggered by Samsung's tegra 2 ordering last year, and recently it was explained to be for Galaxy tab 2 as Orion is not approved for Honeycomb yet. The Orion was getting ready for production from march, so if one can read between the lines with all this info, the logical conclusion is Tegra 2 for tab 10.1 and Orion (Exynos) for S2. But many folks are too lazy or dumb to figure it out.

 

[boostedscooby]

well if i want the latest updates with out a head ache , anger and frustration . while ever one else around me get 3.0 and beyond ..... then i have to buy galaxy 3 just so i can get further updates and .... Do i really have to go on on .........



P.s I will wait till HTC comes out with a quad core snapdragon and blaze your galaxy s2

 

[Roze]

But there were also good number of sources that got it right, claiming that S2 will have Orion. The Tegra 2 rumor was triggered by Samsung's tegra 2 ordering last year, and recently it was explained to be for Galaxy tab 2 as Orion is not approved for Honeycomb yet. The Orion was getting ready for production from march, so if one can read between the lines with all this info, the logical conclusion is Tegra 2 for tab 10.1 and Orion (Exynos) for S2. But many folks are too lazy or dumb to figure it out.

Or they only read half of the information

 

[jinwons]

well if i want the latest updates with out a head ache , anger and frustration . while ever one else around me get 3.0 and beyond ..... then i have to buy galaxy 3 just so i can get further updates and .... Do i really have to go on on .........



P.s I will wait till HTC comes out with a quad core snapdragon and blaze your galaxy s2

Well, that quad core snapdragon HTC phone won't come until middle of next year. By that time, we will be looking at GS3 with quad core Exynos.
I think HTC needs to worry more about LG and Motorola.

 

[BatfinkUK1]

I think HTC needs to worry more about LG and Motorola.

Too true. As a good case in point: Look what happened to Sony when they dropped the ball and let MS/Xbox 360 in on the next gen console scene. If your competition gets the drop on you they have the advantage until you make a conscious decision to leapfrog, like LG are doing now. But it's all good for us consumers.