iPHONE 4 TEMPTATION... TALK ME DOWN!!!

[shocka]

first off, i dig android and do NOT care of the cult of all things apple and "i." HOWEVER, having netflix and skype smoothly integrated into the iphone is very very tempting. especially since netflix now seems unlikely for the thunderbolt and some are questioning skype integration as well. in general, i prefer the size and OS of the thunderbolt, but the tried n true smoothness and integrated features of the iphone is kind of tempting right now. i don't buy that the iphone will be obsolete as soon as the next version is out, much as i don't think the thunderbolt will be made obsolete by newer android phones (even dual cores) coming out shortly after launch. so can anyone help sway me back to the thunderbolt without relying on anti-apple android fanboy rants?

 

[aodmisery]

i dont see how netflix is so important to some people. but thats just me i would prefer to watch movies on my 52" than on a 4.3" well the iphone doesnt have 4g.you have to pay for most apps on the iphone while most apps are free on android. its been reported that tb outperforms the iphone in speed and processing power. need more?

 

[fath0m]

Best thing you could do is wait until the Thunderbolt is released and you can get to the store and play with it. Then make your own decision.

 

[lamoglinsgal]

Proprietary software. Need I say more? And this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XNH_l8EIZTw

 

[Left Coast DJ]

first off, i dig android and do NOT care of the cult of all things apple and "i." HOWEVER, having netflix and skype smoothly integrated into the iphone is very very tempting. especially since netflix now seems unlikely for the thunderbolt and some are questioning skype integration as well. in general, i prefer the size and OS of the thunderbolt, but the tried n true smoothness and integrated features of the iphone is kind of tempting right now. i don't buy that the iphone will be obsolete as soon as the next version is out, much as i don't think the thunderbolt will be made obsolete by newer android phones (even dual cores) coming out shortly after launch. so can anyone help sway me back to the thunderbolt without relying on anti-apple android fanboy rants?

Can you please cite your source for Thunderbolt not having NetFlix?

 

[Eleer]

If this helps any, today I got raped, owned, my bubble bursted, whatever you want to call it. All along I have been thinking I was on a 1-year contract and have been wanting the Thunderbolt BADLY now that my contract is up. However, I called Verizon and asked about my contract just to make sure I was on a 1-year contract, and well, I wasn't. I am not due for an upgrade until February 2012. (I'm still in shock)

I have been pretty much devastated all day today, but then I realized that waiting and having patience is something that would pay off greatly in the end. I mean, think of what kind of phones will be out by then. By then, Android phones will be capable of doing everything except cooking my breakfast in the mornings. It will be AMAZING by then.

I have said all of this so that I could say this; WAIT. Don't jump ship for the iPhone 4. Keep in mind that summer is coming up which means the possible release of the iPhone 5. I don't understand why people would want to make the jump to iPhone 4 right now. Wait it out and see what happens. I am, without a doubt, positive that the Thunderbolt will be a GREAT device, so I'd definitely at lease wait and go play with a dummy phone in Verizon to see if it lived up to its hype. If you don't think it lived up to the hype, go to "plan B". (Choose another device). Patience is a virtue. Wait it out. I hope this helped.

 

[shocka]

Can you please cite your source for Thunderbolt not having NetFlix?

originally saw the engadget article but it is referenced here...

Confirmed: Netflix App Available Exclusively On Future Qualcomm-Based Smartphones, Starting With The LG Revolution | Android News, Reviews, Apps, Games, Phones, Tablets, Tips, Mods, Videos, Tutorials - Android Police

i'm already torn between the form factor. i love the size of the thunderbolt (i am 6'9" with huge hands) but the iphone feels very sleek and solid, albeit too small. and re: the previous comment, netflix on the go (since i already pay for netflix) would be a huge plus for me. ditto for skype. is there anyone out there that has owned both the iphone4 and an android?

 

[rushmore]

Get "both"

I will use the one year discount to get a new Android (TB, LG or Bionic) and bought an iPod 4 64gb for tons of apps and tunes.

Though iPod rocks for games and tunes, I would never get an iPhone. Too closed for web, Flash and downloads. No storage drive or emulators either. I chose "both", but an iPod instead of iPhone.

Added: Not practical for some, but works for me.

 

[shocka]

If this helps any, today I got raped, owned, my bubble bursted, whatever you want to call it. All along I have been thinking I was on a 1-year contract and have been wanting the Thunderbolt BADLY now that my contract is up. However, I called Verizon and asked about my contract just to make sure I was on a 1-year contract, and well, I wasn't. I am not due for an upgrade until February 2012. (I'm still in shock)

I have been pretty much devastated all day today, but then I realized that waiting and having patience is something that would pay off greatly in the end. I mean, think of what kind of phones will be out by then. By then, Android phones will be capable of doing everything except cooking my breakfast in the mornings. It will be AMAZING by then.

I have said all of this so that I could say this; WAIT. Don't jump ship for the iPhone 4. Keep in mind that summer is coming up which means the possible release of the iPhone 5. I don't understand why people would want to make the jump to iPhone 4 right now. Wait it out and see what happens. I am, without a doubt, positive that the Thunderbolt will be a GREAT device, so I'd definitely at lease wait and go play with a dummy phone in Verizon to see if it lived up to its hype. If you don't think it lived up to the hype, go to "plan B". (Choose another device). Patience is a virtue. Wait it out. I hope this helped.

if i had a semi-decent phone that did what i needed it to do then i would wait. probably for a dual-core htc. but my current phone (a rooted eris) sucks every body part below the waist. i'm not someone who needs the latest and greatest. i just need it to work well for two years, function well as a phone, and have the multimedia content and functionality that will keep me happy for that timeframe. that's why i'm not overly concerned with the dual core wonderphones on the horizon. but i'd feel really duped if i got a thunderbolt and and ended up not having netflix and/or skype only to see an android released a few months later with both those functions and more.

 

[lamoglinsgal]

Then since you'd have to wait a few days (hopefully) for the T-Bolt anyway, why not wait an extra few to make sure it has what you want?

 

[Eleer]

if i had a semi-decent phone that did what i needed it to do then i would wait. probably for a dual-core htc. but my current phone (a rooted eris) sucks every body part below the waist. i'm not someone who needs the latest and greatest. i just need it to work well for two years, function well as a phone, and have the multimedia content and functionality that will keep me happy for that timeframe. that's why i'm not overly concerned with the dual core wonderphones on the horizon. but i'd feel really duped if i got a thunderbolt and and ended up not having netflix and/or skype only to see an android released a few months later with both those functions and more.

I understand completely. Remember this when purchasing a phone: Only buy a new device if you need it. It is impossible to stay up to date on technology because of how fast it moves. I have a Blackberry Curve right now that I am very ready to get rid of because I am ready to jump ship to Android and it's OS, however, my Curve is a very reliable phone and it can definitely suffice until February 2012. I couldn't ask for a more reliable device, I am just ready for a phone with all the new bells and whistles.

It sounds like you need a new phone from what you just said, so go for it. Use common sense though. Don't purchase a phone yet. You've waited it out this long with your Eris so wait a week or two (hopefully) for the Thunderbolt to come out, go mess around with it in a store, and see how you like it. If it's not what you'd like for it to be and you don't mind being behind on technology as far as hardware goes (camera, processor, etc.), go for the iPhone 4. I've heard nothing but great things about the device from people.

 

[swamp]

iPhone 4 is not 4G. That seems like enough to seal its fate for me.

Remember this when purchasing a phone: Only buy a new device if you need it. It is impossible to stay up to date on technology because of how fast it moves.

Are you serious, do you think that will be heard or sink in at all on a forum of serious Droid fans, freaks and fan boys?

That being said I love and live that advise. As much as I adore and absorb technology there is much to be said for stability. I use an old MacBook pro (replaced both drives and the screen - that one was major surgery). Still run Windows XP and have my very old Tilt2 with a failed screen (have to hook it up to my computer or use the keyboard only). As you can figure out I'm pretty anxious for the TB myself.

Cheers.

 

[stew560]

If Netflix were available on my phone, I would probably subscribe to the streaming-only plan. I can get it now on my Tivo, PS3 and Wii, having it wherever I go would be a deal-maker!

However, on the flip side, having Netflix is not a deal-maker for me to get a phone.

 

[Left Coast DJ]

originally saw the engadget article but it is referenced here...

Confirmed: Netflix App Available Exclusively On Future Qualcomm-Based Smartphones, Starting With The LG Revolution | Android News, Reviews, Apps, Games, Phones, Tablets, Tips, Mods, Videos, Tutorials - Android Police

i'm already torn between the form factor. i love the size of the thunderbolt (i am 6'9" with huge hands) but the iphone feels very sleek and solid, albeit too small. and re: the previous comment, netflix on the go (since i already pay for netflix) would be a huge plus for me. ditto for skype. is there anyone out there that has owned both the iphone4 and an android?

Both LG Revolution and HTC Thunderbolt have the latest generation Snapdragons (see linky for the two comparisons of the phones, along with the Moto Bionic). So they both should have hardware accelerated NetFlix. When the article says existing Snapdragon powered phones, it's referring to phones that are already being sold. The Thunderbolt, as of now, is still an upcoming phone.

 

[jbh00jh]

first off, i dig android and do NOT care of the cult of all things apple and "i." HOWEVER, having netflix and skype smoothly integrated into the iphone is very very tempting. especially since netflix now seems unlikely for the thunderbolt and some are questioning skype integration as well. in general, i prefer the size and OS of the thunderbolt, but the tried n true smoothness and integrated features of the iphone is kind of tempting right now. i don't buy that the iphone will be obsolete as soon as the next version is out, much as i don't think the thunderbolt will be made obsolete by newer android phones (even dual cores) coming out shortly after launch. so can anyone help sway me back to the thunderbolt without relying on anti-apple android fanboy rants?

If you want a iphone man , order it.

 

[shocka]

Both LG Revolution and HTC Thunderbolt have the latest generation Snapdragons (see linky for the two comparisons of the phones, along with the Moto Bionic). So they both should have hardware accelerated NetFlix. When the article says existing Snapdragon powered phones, it's referring to phones that are already being sold. The Thunderbolt, as of now, is still an upcoming phone.

pretty sure that this has already been discussed in some other threads, but the thunderbolt has, by most accounts, already shipped. at the very least, whatever features the thunderbolt will have are already in place. even though these two phones have the same processor, netflix is apparently going to be a feature that will only be hardwired into a phone before it ships. this would presumably exclude the thunderbolt.

 

[Eleer]

Are you serious, do you think that will be heard or sink in at all on a forum of serious Droid fans, freaks and fan boys?

Where on this website does it say that the only people that post in these forums are "serious Droid fans, freaks, and fan boys?" lol

Anyone can use that advice. I am a huge "tech guru" and yes, people will read my post and hopefully get something out of it. People squander hundreds of dollars every x amount of months to stay up to date on the latest software and that's fine if that's what you want to do, but to me it's stupid. Get a good, stable device (like you said about stability) so that you won't carelessly blow 750 dollars on a new phone trying to stay up to date with technology. That's MY opinion, though. People will disagree, and that's perfectly fine. I'm just not one of those people that gives an arm and a leg often to be up to date on everything. Like you said about much being said about stability, there is much to be said about using common-sense when spending.

 

[stew560]

There is no proof that the Thunderbolt either will or will not have Netflix.

 

[Left Coast DJ]

Shocka - I disagree with you. I think Thunderbolt will have NetFlix. Here's the Droid-Life article from Feb 14. discussing NetFlix on SnapDragon phones. But arguing about this is moot since we're both going on hearsay. We'll find out on the 28th when the Thunderbolt is released.

For what it's worth, my wife has been off-contract for about 6 months now and am getting ready to buy her an iPhone. She's not a techie, and has no plans to jailbreak, root, etc. her phone. She just needs it for making calls, texting, and for taking pictures. And the iPhone is a fantastic platform for that! And the small form-factor of the iPhone 4 will probably fit better in her hand. I, on the other hand, will wait for the Thunderbolt and the Atrix to come out to make my decision.

The iPhone 4 isn't going anywhere. So my recommendation to you is to sit tight for a week and check out the Thunderbolt and the Atrix in person before deciding. Unless you're obsessed with staying on the cutting edge, any of these phones should suit your needs. Multi-core processors and 4G networks will need a couple of years to mature anyway.

 

[Geidroid]

Theres actually a third party app (PlayOn) that allows Netflix and Hulu Plus on all android devices but it costs $40 the first year, $20 every year after or $80 for a lifetime subscription.

In addition to the popular movie/TV streaming service, PlayOn Mobile now brings to the Android 2.2 platform a huge list of content providers including Hulu Plus, (ABC, NBC, Fox, etc.), Amazon VOD, Netflix IQ, TBS, CBS, PBS, the Oprah Winfrey Network, CNN, Comedy Central, Cartoon Network, Adult Swim, Nickelodeon, ESPN3, NFL Rewind, MLB, MTV, VH1, Syfy, Spike, TV.com, The Ultimate Fighter and others.

PlayOn also streams personal media stored locally on a networked PC, and offers support for plugins that adds even more channels like the Discovery Channel, the Food Network, Southpark Studios, international channels, podcasts and numerous other channels.

But there's a catch: the video feeds aren't streamed directly to the phone. Instead, PlayOn requires a PC client connected directly to the Internet which in turn redirects the streaming content to the mobile device. Initially the Android smartphone or tablet will need to be set in Wi-Fi mode and paired with the Windows client (aka media server), but after the first connection users can access the content from anywhere via Wi-Fi, 3G or 4G connection.

Click Here-PlayOn

 

[swamp]

Where on this website does it say that the only people that post in these forums are "serious Droid fans, freaks, and fan boys?" lol

Anyone can use that advice. I am a huge "tech guru" and yes, people will read my post and hopefully get something out of it. People squander hundreds of dollars every x amount of months to stay up to date on the latest software and that's fine if that's what you want to do, but to me it's stupid. Get a good, stable device (like you said about stability) so that you won't carelessly blow 750 dollars on a new phone trying to stay up to date with technology. That's MY opinion, though. People will disagree, and that's perfectly fine. I'm just not one of those people that gives an arm and a leg often to be up to date on everything. Like you said about much being said about stability, there is much to be said about using common-sense when spending.

I think we actually agree almost completely.

However, I think 90+% of the folks regularly posting on TB message forms will buy the phone very soon after launch despite what they own at the moment.

I do also believe the vast majority of posters here and on other Droid forums are much more seriously into the topic than your average Droid owner.

Like I said, you are probably trying to make a point quite futile with most here.

Cheers.

 

[rdubbs007]

Theres actually a third party app (PlayOn) that allows Netflix and Hulu Plus on all android devices but it costs $40 the first year, $20 every year after or $80 for a lifetime subscription.



Click Here-PlayOn

Yeah I have it, the only thing that sucks is that you have to be on the same network as the computer running the playon server. I got it a while back so I don't have to pay a yearly service fee too which was nice.

 

[Geidroid]

Yeah I have it, the only thing that sucks is that you have to be on the same network as the computer running the playon server. I got it a while back so I don't have to pay a yearly service fee too which was nice.

Ok thanks I assumed that you had to be on the same network for syncing and once that was done you could watch movies on the go disconnected from the network

 

[halon]

Don't get it. the iphone is boring. I had one for 3 years.

 

[Chites]

I will be very honest, I like Android devices. I worked with a wireless retailer for a number of years, I have owned/used the original Moto Droid, HTC Eris, HTC Incredible, Samsung Fascinate, and Moto Droid X. I have rooted and romed several of them. The customization of the Android devices is incredible. I ordered an iphone for wife but with her blessing decided to carry it few days just to "test the hype".

I use my phone for email, social networking, texting, internet, and I actually use it to talk! I also have three kids so it is used for quick photo's as well. I have very high expectations for what my wireless device should be able to do. I was very prepared to be disappointed with the magic, mystical iphone. After two weeks of using the device I came to startling conclusion. I actually like it! It works well. It synced with my Outlook beautifully, pulled notes, contacts, etc. I needed to go through Gmail to get my Android device synced. The call quality for me so far has been fantastic. Very clear and loud with only 1 dropped call in two weeks. I averaged a couple of drops per month on android devices too. The maps and GPS on the iphone perform flawlessly, my iphone works better with Google maps than my Google OS phones did! The camera is also something to rave about. Very clear and sharp and in my opinion way better than any that I have used so far. Of course I performed Jailbreak on the new iphone and performed minor modifications to suite my needs. A couple simple mods really make it shine even more.

Now please understand I am not an iphone fan boy, in fact I would say just the opposite. I have represented Big Red, selling against the iphone for several years. Now that it's here I really wanted to hate the darn thing but unfortunately it really works well. I can't hate it! It isn't perfect, it is not 4G, it does not have a 4" or larger screen, it is not as customizable as an Android, etc... There are many things that the iphone IS NOT in today's smart phone market... That being said it IS a REALLY NICE PHONE THAT WORKS VERY WELL. My track record shows that I have a new phone every 10-12 months but for the next 10-12 I am proud and happy to say I own and use an iphone! The other thing to consider is the next few devices are the first of the new 4G phones. More and "better" devices will come.

This is just my opinion, it is not meant to be a decision making tool for the masses. Please no flames. Last but not least, thank you for your time!