Verizon Corporate Email - Android ?

[domdepo]

I know with a verizon and blackberrys you need to pay $15 a month for corporate email, but I was wondering if with and android phone is there a way to get free corporate email? I know with T-Moblie if you have one of there 4G phones its free.

I called verizon to ask them but the customer service reps at verizon are so clueless I dont think she even knew what day it was..

Thanks in advance!

 

[PSkeptic]

Get a data plan. That's "Corporate Email" AFAIK. Everything else is on your Exchange box.

 

[domdepo]

Get a data plan. That's "Corporate Email" AFAIK. Everything else is on your Exchange box.

Well theirs a personal plan that is 29.99 a month and a personal and business plan that is 44.99 a month.

Is it possible to have just the 29.99 a month with a android. I know with a blackberry I have to have the 44.99, but im wondering if with an android maybe theirs away around it.

 

[Taylored]

Assuming your corp email is exchange, you should have no problems assuming you know your server domain, account and password.

Your work should just switch to gmail servers. All the cool kids are doing it. And it makes life easier for everyone.

 

[Lars]

The$ 15 plan works fine on exchange. The$ 29 one is unlimited. The$ 44 one allows tethering too.

 

[PSkeptic]

Well theirs a personal plan that is 29.99 a month and a personal and business plan that is 44.99 a month.

Is it possible to have just the 29.99 a month with a android. I know with a blackberry I have to have the 44.99, but im wondering if with an android maybe theirs away around it.

You can just get the 29.99 a month, and get Exchange/POP3/IMAP mail just fine.

Blackberry email? Not so much, you'd connect directly to the Exchange box.

Assuming your corp email is exchange, you should have no problems assuming you know your server domain, account and password.

Your work should just switch to gmail servers. All the cool kids are doing it. And it makes life easier for everyone.

Once GMail tells my company how they plan to work email retention and information security guarantees, we might think about it.

Until then, however, it's too much of a risk for most companies to swallow.

 

[byteware]

Once GMail tells my company how they plan to work email retention and information security guarantees, we might think about it.

Until then, however, it's too much of a risk for most companies to swallow.

Well, then you should really talk to them, because they HAVE this worked out.

 

[domdepo]

We use Outlook is that considered Exchange?

 

[scorp64va]

Outlook is just the mail client used on your Windows boxes. Although Outlook can be configured to use mail servers other than Exchange, chances are your company is running Exchange if they're standardized on Outlook as a mail client.

 

[domdepo]

Microsoft Activesync is whats its supposed to be. Im running 2.3.1 and under email add account I cant find it

 

[Lars]

MS Activesync is an application that syncs Outlook data from a PC to a Windows Mobile phone over a USB cable. It does not function with an Android phone though companies like HTC and Moto supply their own sync apps sometimes.

If you are using an exchange server, add a corporate account on the Android phone.
If you are using google mail, contacts and calendar just configure that on the phone.
If you are using Outlook but with an ordinary email account, add the pop or imap account on the phone. If you want your Outlook calendar with that, use google's calendar sync.
If you are using a Mac, try missing sync or get an iphone.

 

[butthead007]

/me slams head into table

The older $44.99 plans included bes access for blackberries and wireless sync for other devices.

The $29.99 plans can get you access to your exchange account provided you are set up for Microsoft wireless active sync through your employer. You can use outlook web access on the $29.99 plan though you will not sync contacts, etc.

Currently, the only people who need the $44.99 plan are people with blackberries. Period. If you are connecting to a Blackbery enterprise Server (BES), then yes, you need it. Wireless active sync through exchange, then no, $29.99 is fine.

Take my advice for what it is worth. I can assure you that those scenarios I outlined are correct. But if you want to call in and pester care, then knock yourself out. You'll be back at my solutions after googling and complaining on forums.

 

[domdepo]

Thank you for the info guys very helpful!

 

[Lars]

$29.99 smartphone data plan plus $15 tethering fee also happens to be $44.99 and has nothing to do with bes. I think that's also a package.

 

[PSkeptic]

Well, then you should really talk to them, because they HAVE this worked out.

No, they don't. I just finished a round of chats with a Google project manager who was trying to sell us on this.

 

[byteware]

No, they don't. I just finished a round of chats with a Google project manager who was trying to sell us on this.

I have a hard time believing that.

Email retention is a no brainer...

And security guarantees are an absolute requirement for ANYONE.

Heck, I know for a fact that Google is doing this for government entities, and they have a HUGE email retention requirement.

 

[Dakota - Tom]

I have a hard time believing that.

Email retention is a no brainer...Heck, I know for a fact that Google is doing this for government entities, and they have a HUGE email retention requirement.

You'd think so, wouldn't you... FoxNews.com - Gmail Glitch Wipes Out Tens of Thousands of Accounts

 

[byteware]

You'd think so, wouldn't you... FoxNews.com - Gmail Glitch Wipes Out Tens of Thousands of Accounts

I'm confused as to why you are comparing the public Gmail to the Corporate Gmail?

 

[Dakota - Tom]

Same company, fundamentally the same service.

 

[PSkeptic]

I have a hard time believing that.

Email retention is a no brainer...

And security guarantees are an absolute requirement for ANYONE.

Heck, I know for a fact that Google is doing this for government entities, and they have a HUGE email retention requirement.

Business email, documents, and intranet sites for Government ? Google Apps

They only guarantee 3 nine's. I work in a 5 9's shop. So, it's a no-brainer: We can't use Google Apps for email, since we have a 5 9's SLA.

Email retention in a Google App environment is still handled in-house through proxy appliances. There is no way to mandate inside of Google Apps a retention policy. It's a third-party solution.

So, if you doubt it, please, contact a Google Sales rep, and have them set you up with a project manager to discuss it.

And, yes, they are FISMA compliant, but that does nothing to answer the question of: "If we change our solution, how do we get our email back". Our email being the corporation's email. Also known as our "Intellectual Property".

Again, if you doubt anything I say, feel free to contact the Google Sales office, and get set up with a project manager. He/she will be able to discuss the in's-and-out's of a cloud-based email solution.

And, I'm not sure you are really aware of the varying levels of security out there: FISMA, Visa PCI, FIPS-2, SAS70, etc. Unless a solution is certified to the varying levels out there, it can not be used for various services (ie, if it's not Visa PCI and SAS70 certified, you can't use it if your company accepts credit cards; if it doesn't meet FIPS-2, then no Treasury or Dept of Education data; etc).

I'm confused as to why you are comparing the public Gmail to the Corporate Gmail?

Corporate Gmail only offers 3 9's. It's pretty much the same level of service you get with GMail.

But, as I've said a few times here, feel free to contact Google Sales, and have a project manager meet with you. I've been that route, and made the decision for my company already to stay with Exchange in-house.

 

[byteware]

They only guarantee 3 nine's. I work in a 5 9's shop. So, it's a no-brainer: We can't use Google Apps for email, since we have a 5 9's SLA.

So, for every year, you can only be down for 5 minutes regarding your email? That seems a bit of a ridiculous claim. There are so many issues that may prevent accessing email, internally, that I don't see how you can make that claim.

Email retention in a Google App environment is still handled in-house through proxy appliances. There is no way to mandate inside of Google Apps a retention policy. It's a third-party solution.

Again, this would surprise me.

So, if you doubt it, please, contact a Google Sales rep, and have them set you up with a project manager to discuss it.

If only I had the time... although, I might just do this sometime today.

And, yes, they are FISMA compliant, but that does nothing to answer the question of: "If we change our solution, how do we get our email back". Our email being the corporation's email. Also known as our "Intellectual Property".

You are saying that they have no way to "transfer it back to you"? That would absolutely surprise me.

 

[Lars]

I looked at google apps too as a replacement for Exchange. It didn't really do more. It did it for less money at the expense of the unknown. Outlook paired with Exchange is still the most comprehensive system. It's a good platform for security, and also offline viewing and composing for later syncing. The weak spot has always been sharing of data. Mostly sharing contacts beyond the GAL which is not editable. My solution was to create empty users that have contact folders and share them to real users. They show up in Outlook, though not pickable from email. They also can be configured on Android 2.2+ and iOS4 so every device is sync'd all the time. I don't think WM can support multiple Exchange accounts which is a joke.

 

[PSkeptic]

So, for every year, you can only be down for 5 minutes regarding your email? That seems a bit of a ridiculous claim. There are so many issues that may prevent accessing email, internally, that I don't see how you can make that claim.

Yes. For every year, we must guarantee our business users less than 5 minutes downtime for email.

As for the many issues, yes, there are. Which is why you have fail-over clusters, and a host of other levels of redundancy.

As an aside, our network teams have the same SLA: 99.999% uptime.

Again, this would surprise me.

I'm sure it does. I can tell you've never written an RFP, or evaluated the replies to an RFP.

If only I had the time... although, I might just do this sometime today.

Shockingly, I have the time. Because it's my job. Evaluating solutions, then building the solutions for our business users. Welcome to the enterprise-world.

You are saying that they have no way to "transfer it back to you"? That would absolutely surprise me.

Yes. There is no way for them to send you all of your intellectual property back to you, in a reasonable fashion. It's not an easy deal to move petabytes of information around securely.

I looked at google apps too as a replacement for Exchange. It didn't really do more. It did it for less money at the expense of the unknown. Outlook paired with Exchange is still the most comprehensive system. It's a good platform for security, and also offline viewing and composing for later syncing. The weak spot has always been sharing of data. Mostly sharing contacts beyond the GAL which is not editable. My solution was to create empty users that have contact folders and share them to real users. They show up in Outlook, though not pickable from email. They also can be configured on Android 2.2+ and iOS4 so every device is sync'd all the time. I don't think WM can support multiple Exchange accounts which is a joke.

Exactly the problem with enterprise-usage of google apps: The unknown. Shareholders don't really like unknowns.

 

[byteware]

Yes. For every year, we must guarantee our business users less than 5 minutes downtime for email.

As for the many issues, yes, there are. Which is why you have fail-over clusters, and a host of other levels of redundancy.

Including multiple locations, I assume, as weather and power related issues could bring down a single locations for more than 5 minutes beyond your control?

As an aside, our network teams have the same SLA: 99.999% uptime.

I find that incredibly hard to believe.

I'm sure it does. I can tell you've never written an RFP, or evaluated the replies to an RFP.

Well, then you would, in fact, be wrong about that. Granted, you can tell that I've never done an RFP regarding an email server, and on that you would be very very right.

Yes. There is no way for them to send you all of your intellectual property back to you, in a reasonable fashion. It's not an easy deal to move petabytes of information around securely.

It's a rather easy deal, it's just not quick. As long as you can agree on a format to put the data in, and a way to segment the data between tapes, it's fairly easy to store that data, and have it sent back from their facility... it's just extremely inconvenient.

Exactly the problem with enterprise-usage of google apps: The unknown. Shareholders don't really like unknowns.

Any change is involves unknown. That's like saying that shareholders don't like you doing anything that you haven't already done before a thousand times.

 

[Dakota - Tom]

Including multiple locations, I assume, as weather and power related issues could bring down a single locations for more than 5 minutes beyond your control?



I find that incredibly hard to believe.



Well, then you would, in fact, be wrong about that. Granted, you can tell that I've never done an RFP regarding an email server, and on that you would be very very right.



It's a rather easy deal, it's just not quick. As long as you can agree on a format to put the data in, and a way to segment the data between tapes, it's fairly easy to store that data, and have it sent back from their facility... it's just extremely inconvenient.



Any change is involves unknown. That's like saying that shareholders don't like you doing anything that you haven't already done before a thousand times.

Two things jump out to me here from your on-going responses on this topic ... First, you seem to be very naive regarding the requirements of large corporations for data systems integrity, and second you seem to be very uninformed regarding large corporation disaster recovery plans and what they require.