Deal Breaker

[Yankeexpress]

Despite the better resolution screen, turn-by-turn navigation and voice typing, the item that will keep me from buying an N1 is the lack of a multi-touch screen. The iPhone pinch & flick action is too slick to give up. And the ability to correct typos with the magically appearing magnifying glass is not there in Android. How does one correct mistakes without fiddling with a balky trackball? Track balls are notoriously faulty. Trackballs suck. Just ask any crackberry veteran.

And where is the Redlaser app to compare prices by scanning barcodes with the phone's camera?

And Instapaper app to download newspaper articles to read offline while in flight?

And iNavx with every nautical chart in the US on the phone with waypoint GPS navigation even while offshore out of cell range?

Looks like the Android OS has some serious catching up to do.

Yes, of course I am tied to a contract. When it ends I will see where the mobile landscape is greener and decide whether Android has turned into a version of a Microsoft type mess or has caught up to Apple. May the consumer be the better for this upcoming competition. It's gonna be fun to witness the battle.

 

[d510addict]

I'm pretty sure android phones are multi touch capable its the apps that aren't. But thats changing so ya iphone guy read up or shut up imo.

 

[Yankeexpress]

I'm pretty sure android phones are multi touch capable its the apps that aren't. But thats changing so ya iphone guy read up or shut up imo.

The Nexus, Droid and G1 are definitely NOT multi-touch.

 

[d510addict]

Again go read and you will see that indeed they are but there are very few apps that support it. Look up xscope which is a multi touch browser for 2.0 os and up. Oh wait ill just give you the link if u reply it still doesn't then get a brain.

http://androidforums.com/android-applications/20831-xscope-multitouch-pinch-zoom-browser.html

 

[d510addict]

Also there are absolutly no drawbacks of having a track ball versus no trackball, you're just being ignorant to say they are bad........sure they "might" break down the road but whats the alternative? Having no trackball? Fact of the matter is having a trackball doesn't hinder it just adds.

 

[cb2000a]

Yes they are multi-touch capable...it's in the hardware and there are many apps that support it (like the Dolphin browser)... I tried multi-touch and really did not like it so each to their own. Also, a version of Swype is available for the Droid as well. The app market is catching up to Apple at a much faster pace now thanks to the Droid. The Droids hardware is superior to the Iphone for now, but that will change this June I am sure. Oh and one more thing....I never get dropped calls on my Droid on Verizon.

 

[Yankeexpress]

Also there are absolutly no drawbacks of having a track ball versus no trackball, you're just being ignorant to say they are bad........sure they "might" break down the road but whats the alternative? Having no trackball? Fact of the matter is having a trackball doesn't hinder it just adds.

It's not a question of "might". Trackballs gum up and suck even if they don't fail completely.

With a true multi-touch, the cursor is located with a finger. Just tap the glass where you want it. Trackballs are ancient tech.

 

[IOWA]

Yet another iPhone loser who doesn't have a clue what he is talking about.
My responses are in bold

Despite the better resolution screen, turn-by-turn navigation and voice typing, the item that will keep me from buying an N1 is the lack of a multi-touch screen. The iPhone pinch & flick action is too slick to give up. And the ability to correct typos with the magically appearing magnifying glass is not there in Android. How does one correct mistakes without fiddling with a balky trackball? Track balls are notoriously faulty. Trackballs suck. Just ask any crackberry veteran.

All android phones running2.0+ indeed DO HAVE multitouch support. And making pinch and zoom a dealbreaker on a phone that has trouble making phone calls seems silly to me. Really. So your multitouch argument is moot.

And where is the Redlaser app to compare prices by scanning barcodes with the phone's camera?

Android has several barcode reading apps, such as Barcode reader, shop savvy, and one built into the ebay app. Once again you don't do your proper research and blurt out without knowing the facts. Moot.

And Instapaper app to download newspaper articles to read offline while in flight?

And iNavx with every nautical chart in the US on the phone with waypoint GPS navigation even while offshore out of cell range?

Google Maps. Moot.

Looks like the Android OS has some serious catching up to do.

Sounds like you don't know what your talking about, and Android far surpasses iPhone functionality. Android phones can even make phone calls too!

Yes, of course I am tied to a contract. When it ends I will see where the mobile landscape is greener and decide whether Android has turned into a version of a Microsoft type mess or has caught up to Apple. May the consumer be the better for this upcoming competition. It's gonna be fun to witness the battle.

There is nothing wrong with WinMob. Sounds like your just an apple fanboy here to start trouble, so if you don't like our forum, please leave. WinMob has both Android and iPhone beaten on functionality, and apps. The only problem is it does require a learning curve, and those not tech savvy enough just can't figure out how to use it, but the UI is completely redone, and will nice and sleek with winmob 7. Before you post rant threads about things you don't know, please do some research other than visiting biased sites like BGR or Engadget.

In closing I find it funny when apple fanboys get shut down, and their love of a more expensive, yet inferior product both baffle me and make me laugh at the same time.

It's not a question of "might". Trackballs gum up and suck even if they don't fail completely.

Edit:

With a true multi-touch, the cursor is located with a finger. Just tap the glass where you want it. Trackballs are ancient tech.

Trackballs are fine. Your running out of excuses. Really. Non-swappable batteries, non-swappable memory, and closed-source is ancient tech. It's going to be funny watching apple die again, because of their archaic business model. They lost the PC war to Microsoft for a reason. Apple still hasn't put out an iPod that can match the ZuneHD's awesomeness.

 

[Bigjohn]

It's not a question of "might". Trackballs gum up and suck even if they don't fail completely.

With a true multi-touch, the cursor is located with a finger. Just tap the glass where you want it. Trackballs are ancient tech.

Really? had one?? My 3 year old Blackberry has never had an issue with the track ball, and it's never in a "case", its always in a pocket or on my desk...

3 years of 9 hours a day use... not one "gum up' on the track ball.

 

[Yankeexpress]

Yes they are multi-touch capable...it's in the hardware and there are many apps that support it (like the Dolphin browser)... I tried multi-touch and really did not like it so each to their own. Also, a version of Swype is available for the Droid as well. The app market is catching up to Apple at a much faster pace now thanks to the Droid. The Droids hardware is superior to the Iphone for now, but that will change this June I am sure. Oh and one more thing....I never get dropped calls on my Droid on Verizon.

Touch

 

[TheNorthernForest]

Track balls are notoriously faulty. Trackballs suck. Just ask any crackberry veteran.

Well, I think that all depends upon the placement of the trackball. I used to have a Sidekick and the trackball was easy to use because it was on the side of the screen, giving you a better handle of it. As for BlackBerry users, maybe, because I cannot navigate on a phone that relies on the trackball that is placed in the middle of the phone. It will never work for me.

But Nexus One has options. That's the nice thing about it. You can either navigate with a trackball or use your fingers to scroll through on the responsive touch screen.

I do not know if there is something like on iPhone where you can use the magnifying glass to scope through your text, though. Hopefully there is.

 

[d510addict]

Really? had one?? My 3 year old Blackberry has never had an issue with the track ball, and it's never in a "case", its always in a pocket or on my desk...

3 years of 9 hours a day use... not one "gum up' on the track ball.

It's prolly because the only trackball phones he plays with are those shotty display phones in the tmob and verizon stores when hes drooling over android phones.

 

[kennyidaho]

And where is the Redlaser app to compare prices by scanning barcodes with the phone's camera?

Barcode Scanner? It's in the market, it scans barcodes and QR codes. There is other apps too that use the function Amazon app uses it, CNET app.

 

[dephyre]

Awwww, you guys got the good stuff! Well I can do this one.

And Instapaper app to download newspaper articles to read offline while in flight?

The developer is having quite a time keeping up. There aren't any palm, symbian, or blackberry versions of the app either. But you could still do this in two ways.

1. Download your instapaper feed as an epub file and email/transfer it to your android device, and use one of the many ebook readers (I prefer Aldiko)

OR

2. You could download the cross-platform (OSX Win and 'Nix varieties) application Calibre and have it e-mailed to you at anytime of the day and in nearly any format you could want.

KTHXBYE!

 

[TheBrit]

On multi-touch and the trackball: My Hero has multitouch and I use it quite a lot. As for the trackball, if I'm honest it is a bit of a pain to use when fixing typos.

RedLaser: Try ShopSavvy - it's brilliant.

YankeeExpress, you seem ill-informed.

As for old tech: the iPhone is starting to look a bit dated now against what is now coming to Android.

 

[blinky]

I think the trackball issues the blackberry users had were limited to the tiny trackballs. The Google trackball is alot bigger and I think that probably makes a big difference in terms of stability.

 

[sooper_droid12]

He is an Apple fanboy, and obviously hasn't spent much time with an Android phone. Android has an app for many of the things he's mentioned, some of which are already covered. But he is right: Trackballs are prone to failure while a good idea for cursor control, no longer belong on today's smartphones.

 

[Yankeexpress]

Awwww, you guys got the good stuff! Well I can do this one. The developer is having quite a time keeping up. There aren't any palm, symbian, or blackberry versions of the app either. But you could still do this in two ways.

1. Download your instapaper feed as an epub file and email/transfer it to your android device, and use one of the many ebook readers (I prefer Aldiko)

OR

2. You could download the cross-platform (OSX Win and 'Nix varieties) application Calibre and have it e-mailed to you at anytime of the day and in nearly any format you could want.

KTHXBYE!

Instapaper is 2-tap slick. Click-click and the news article is in the app ready to download to read at your leisure offline whether in flight while in airplane mode or at sea offshore, out of range of all cell coverage. Very cool app.

 

[NowVoyager]

Let's not go down the old iPhone slippery slope... eye candy with features. Now ANDROID, on the other hand is light years ahead with apps that FUNCTION.

Oh, and about the iPhone's dropped calls and slooooooooo download speeds...How's that working for you? Btw, How do you have an iPhone on Verizon?

F.Y.I. My son has an HTC Hero with that pinch thingy. I have zoom... I'm good, LOL.

 

[shawn1224]

The funny part is not all Android phones have trackballs but all iphones still can't multitask.

BOOM goes the dynamite.

 

[PhishFunkadelic]

The funny part is not all Android phones have trackballs but all iphones still can't multitask.

BOOM goes the dynamite.

HA!

 

[splenditello]

trackball>no trackball

 

[Yankeexpress]

From the Wall Street Journal review after a week of testing:

"But there are some downsides to the Nexus One. Like all Android phones, it relies too much ... on menus that create extra steps, including some menus that have a built-in “more” button to display a secondary menu of choices.

I also found the four buttons etched into the phone’s bottom panel sticky and hard to press. In addition, although the Nexus One claims seven hours of talk time versus five hours for the iPhone, most of its battery-life claims for other functions are weaker than Apple’s.

For instance, Google claims just 6.5 hours of Wi-Fi Web use per charge, versus nine for the iPhone, and 20 for music playback versus 30. Google claims this is because, unlike Apple, it allows the simultaneous use of third-party apps, which can drain the battery faster. In addition, the Nexus One, and other Android devices, still pale beside the iPhone for playing music, video and games. The apps available for these functions aren’t nearly as sophisticated as on the Apple devices.

Finally, the iPhone is still a better apps platform. Not only are there more apps, but, in my experience, iPhone apps are generally more polished and come in more varieties."

from WSJ

 

[Yankeexpress]

...Btw, How do you have an iPhone on Verizon?

Using Verizon MiFi and a 64gig iPod Touch via Wifi.

I also have a 32gig 3GS which of course is ATT.
Best of both worlds, but expensive.

 

[Yankeexpress]

Now ANDROID, on the other hand is light years ahead with apps that FUNCTION.

How are ya gonna git all them thar Apps when the N1 only allots 190mb total for all Apps. They ain't gonna fit. Not happening.