Help TB FFcam with IPhone?

[ResQ24_7]

If you use the front cam on TB calling someone with the IPhone, would both have to be on Skype or do both interface with each other? A guy I work with just asked because his wife has the IPhone.

 

[Mitchell4500]

I think so but the iPhone will have to be on WiFi I think.

 

[Jimmy706]

iphone has to be on wifi for crapples facetime or whatever it's called. If you use skype it will work on 3g.

 

[ResQ24_7]

I think so but the iPhone will have to be on WiFi I think.

I know how apple products tend to be proprietory so just curious.

 

[odnerd]

Should be able to use tango on both if skype ends up not being on it...

 

[broady]

iphone works with skype & 3G pretty clear.

 

[broady]

jailbreak the iphone and install MY 3G app and it makes the believe it on wifi when on 3G so facetime works with 3g that way. BTW i hate the iphone though but it works...

 

[EarlyMon]

Videochat without platform independence is a drag. In case anything goes south on Skype videochat (sorry to be the bad guy - but they've been all over the map on the their profit model for mobile within the last year), then alternatives exist - Fring and the up and coming ooVoo.com are among them, also Tango as mentioned previously, and several others.

We were all counting on Skype, especially because it gives access to desk/laptops as well - so - while this will solve your problem today, don't get discouraged if they pull shenanigans in the future. Others are anticipating it and building for it.

 

[rohdawg11]

Should be able to use tango on both if skype ends up not being on it...

plus one THIS

 

[TxGoat]

Negative, you can't use Skype on a phone that's not released yet.....


But all kidding aside, I'm sure there will be work arounds that will allow skypeing from an Android device to an iPhone. Considering people are using skype over 3G connections with the iPhone now and the iPhone is one of the most locked down devices, I'm sure there's a way to make it work, but it's best for you to do your homework on the subject.

 

[EarlyMon]

Skype does nothing different on an iPhone - it's just Skype.

 

[FatalErrorz]

Skype has video chat for the puters, but the file is 22mb, and probably expands to 35-40Mb's when opened and installed. I don't think the issue with Skype is so much a technical one as it is a size issue. I'm thinking that's the case as they could have worked through a technical issue by now. Would you like a single app to take over 50% of your storage capability before it is installed? I'll bet they dropped the size, but it's still probably 10+ Mb's and Verizon said "no" to that...rightly so.

 

[snoopy2699]

Im pretty sure my buddy's iphone4(vzw) used tango with my sisters new incredible yesterday. The incredible was on Wifi but the Iphone4 was not. It did give my buddy a messege about a weak connection though.

 

[FatalErrorz]

Im pretty sure my buddy's iphone4(vzw) used tango with my sisters new incredible yesterday. The incredible was on Wifi but the Iphone4 was not. It did give my buddy a messege about a weak connection though.

Tango works, but is a huge battery hog. I was using the Yahoo! Messenger with plug in to v-chat with my kid when he was in Iraq. Worked pretty good, but not sure if the iphone can use it or not.

 

[EarlyMon]

Skype has video chat for the puters, but the file is 22mb, and probably expands to 35-40Mb's when opened and installed. I don't think the issue with Skype is so much a technical one as it is a size issue. I'm thinking that's the case as they could have worked through a technical issue by now. Would you like a single app to take over 50% of your storage capability before it is installed? I'll bet they dropped the size, but it's still probably 10+ Mb's and Verizon said "no" to that...rightly so.

Desktop Skype also allows multiple-party conferencing, file sharing and desktop sharing.

When it was simply an additionally recognized protocol under Fring, it wasn't very bloaty at all.

It was a battery-hog, tho.

 

[HTCThunderbolt]

jailbreak the iphone and install MY 3G app and it makes the believe it on wifi when on 3G so facetime works with 3g that way. BTW i hate the iphone though but it works...

Yep.. This is a must if you want to factime or want to download apps bigger than 25mb on 3g..

 

[FrankXS]

Skype has video chat for the puters, but the file is 22mb, and probably expands to 35-40Mb's when opened and installed. I don't think the issue with Skype is so much a technical one as it is a size issue. I'm thinking that's the case as they could have worked through a technical issue by now. Would you like a single app to take over 50% of your storage capability before it is installed? I'll bet they dropped the size, but it's still probably 10+ Mb's and Verizon said "no" to that...rightly so.

I don't get it. Who cares about 0.04GB program size (i.e. 40Mb's) when you have 8GB of internal memory and 32GB of external (SD card).

-Frank

 

[FatalErrorz]

I don't get it. Who cares about 0.04GB program size (i.e. 40Mb's) when you have 8GB of internal memory and 32GB of external (SD card).

-Frank

It won't run on the SD Card so it has to go onto the phone memory. I don't know how much of that 8GB of phone memory is available after any and all HTC/Verizon bloatware. A 40mb app would be the largest around (that I know of) and would pretty much raise the bar for what is acceptable in the future. We do not need bloated code in the phone arena. Hell, Qik is only 1.18mb...Qik was bought by Skype in October, so it will die a miserable death shortly even though it works so well.

So, to answer your question about "who cares" about a 40mb program; I do, and I'm sure there are many others who do also, but probably won't see this thread. Bloat started with PC's back in the mid-90's. My first version of Office came on 3 Diskettes, then Office 95 was 17 Diskettes, or, you could buy a CD from M$. After that it was a CD for Office 97, then straight to a DVD for all versions after. And no, the improvements don't justify the bloat.

 

[FatalErrorz]

Desktop Skype also allows multiple-party conferencing, file sharing and desktop sharing.

When it was simply an additionally recognized protocol under Fring, it wasn't very bloaty at all.

It was a battery-hog, tho.

I was wondering how it did under Fring, but didn't have a smartphone that ran it, and probably didn't have a smartphone at all then...I've been a computer geek since 94 though...Hopefully VZW told them to trim the fat out of the app for sizing...Cell phone apps don't need to be more than 3mb...That Adobe Air is a bloated beast at 10mb, and I don't even know what app it works with!

 

[EarlyMon]

My boss was jealously upset when I Fring/Skyped him from my phone for the first time, via 3G - he reported much higher clarity and a better framerate than I'd ever achieved with Skype video on my laptop. So - high quality is indeed possible with just 3G, the Skype protocols and a rocking HTC phone.

As for how big an app needs to be - that's kinda like how many notes ought go into a symphony, don't you think?

I have small apps but also plenty of bigger ones - the more a dev binds in, the bigger it's going to be. Gmail, Fring, Elixer, ES Security Manager, Maps, Handcent - all bigger apps in the 9 to 12 MB range.

And if you consider going from 40 MB on a desktop to 10 MB for mobile, that's a pretty decent trimming, just imo.

We all got royally screwed when Fring was denied access to Skype, and with the Skype debacle last December, I've been on the hunt for better - problem is getting everyone to adopt.

Adobe Air showed breakthru promise for all sorts of applications, including videochat, but I've yet to see it impact anything. And we know how Abode apps are - the more they grow, the less they seem to do right - again, imo.

For years, Apple desktops used iChat for videoconferencing via the AIM servers - worked better than AIM or Skype video, really top-notch stuff. But they did keep that for the iP4 - no, they just _had_ to promote yet another closed protocol and wall that garden in.

I'm hoping Google steps up and provides this service soon. That would be easy for all to access and we could trust it to be implemented right for Android.

Skype solves the videochat problem for Verizon users, but that cuts out the rest of us. (And that all came down when everyone was claiming Skype exclusivity for Verizon until people started pointing out the iPhone on ATT had it - next thing, Skype started to look at ways to charge for mobile use, cut off Fring, then decided to not charge, left Fring cut off.)

Meanwhile - ooVoo is what I'm eyeballing - have to, I've been severed from Skype video.

 

[FatalErrorz]

My boss was jealously upset when I Fring/Skyped him from my phone for the first time, via 3G - he reported much higher clarity and a better framerate than I'd ever achieved with Skype video on my laptop. So - high quality is indeed possible with just 3G, the Skype protocols and a rocking HTC phone. Yes, my Yahoo! chat worked well on 3G

As for how big an app needs to be - that's kinda like how many notes ought go into a symphony, don't you think? Not really...If you decompile some of the MS apps, there are developer notes throughout the app that just make it bigger and bigger. It's not bloated apps, that's the wrong term I used...It's bloated code. They don't take out the notes for testing when they finish the product.

I have small apps but also plenty of bigger ones - the more a dev binds in, the bigger it's going to be. Gmail, Fring, Elixer, ES Security Manager, Maps, Handcent - all bigger apps in the 9 to 12 MB range. Handcent is 6.65 which is huge in my eyes...I use it, but it's huge.

And if you consider going from 40 MB on a desktop to 10 MB for mobile, that's a pretty decent trimming, just imo. That is 10MB before decompressing and installing...Probably 15-18 minimum after installation.

We all got royally screwed when Fring was denied access to Skype, and with the Skype debacle last December, I've been on the hunt for better - problem is getting everyone to adopt. I'm hunting too...Let me know if you find the Ark.

Adobe Air showed breakthru promise for all sorts of applications, including videochat, but I've yet to see it impact anything. And we know how Abode apps are - the more they grow, the less they seem to do right - again, imo. Exactly...I uninstalled it again, and nothing I have asks for it to be installed again...

For years, Apple desktops used iChat for videoconferencing via the AIM servers - worked better than AIM or Skype video, really top-notch stuff. But they did keep that for the iP4 - no, they just _had_ to promote yet another closed protocol and wall that garden in. Apple...'nuff said...

I'm hoping Google steps up and provides this service soon. That would be easy for all to access and we could trust it to be implemented right for Android.

Skype solves the videochat problem for Verizon users, but that cuts out the rest of us. (And that all came down when everyone was claiming Skype exclusivity for Verizon until people started pointing out the iPhone on ATT had it - next thing, Skype started to look at ways to charge for mobile use, cut off Fring, then decided to not charge, left Fring cut off.)

Meanwhile - ooVoo is what I'm eyeballing - have to, I've been severed from Skype video.

I'm pretty sure Qik will work with Skype when (Big WHEN) it gets released. Might be some cross-platform usage so Qik users can call Skype and vice-versa. I think Skype will have to have some free video for the carriers as nobody is going to want to pay for it if there is a free one out there that works. I'm surprised more developers haven't jumped on this one...Get to compiling, people!

 

[EarlyMon]

The build issues with Microsoft aren't really at play here - completely different.

My Handcent while running is 12.5 MB....

As I recall, Skype bought Qik - Qik was the first thing I dropped because it was so Mickey Mouse - maybe they'll improve it, but I'm gonna be from Missouri on that one, they'll have to show me.

 

[FatalErrorz]

The build issues with Microsoft aren't really at play here - completely different.

My Handcent while running is 12.5 MB....

As I recall, Skype bought Qik - Qik was the first thing I dropped because it was so Mickey Mouse - maybe they'll improve it, but I'm gonna be from Missouri on that one, they'll have to show me.

While I agree with your fisrt statement, all it takes is people to start accepting bloated code (larger apps) as the new standard, and it'll take off.

Do you use the font packs and other add ons with your Handcent? Mine is 6.65MB under the "running" tab. I wonder why the discrepancy...

Yes, Skype bought Qik back in October for a crazy amount of money. Qik was stupid simple, but it worked. I talked with a few people I knew using it, but had to switch to Yahoo! when my kid was in Iraq as that's what he used.

 

[EarlyMon]

Discrepancy could be data - I didn't install the font packs.

 

[FatalErrorz]

Discrepancy could be data - I didn't install the font packs.

Ahhhh...those are some seriously long threads then...lol I delete mine constantly. I don't have the font packs either. I do have all the other plugins, but believe those are web-based.