What features do you want on the Evo 2?

[BlueScreen]

I wanted to express my appreciation to all who have been posting with excellent ideas/concerns with respect to next generation EVO. The show will answer most of the burning question out there, but remember, the cat is not out of the bag yet! So keep up with your wish list as we did with the original EVO almost a year ago. I am positive we will be working on fit and finish until launch day.
I am still packing spread sheets, data reports, and presentation for the big show. I am sure you all can understand this is a busy time. I'll be away for a bit during that period. I'll still throw out some bites from my EVO 4G of course, but were confident the show will have most of the important questions answered.

I will be focusing more on the technical aspects. There is no way a person could stand on stage and talk about DLNA for 20+min. and cover other important aspect of the device.

Let's quash some rumors up front. The screen will be 4.3in Qhd 3d screen. The actual form factor of the EVO 3d will measure up a bit smaller. Good thing for those still wearing jeans with small pockets. We couldn't shrink the over all size that much, because we understand that people want protective cases and we didn’t want this to interfere with the touch screen. The feeling is we have a good balance, where you guys feel as though it's just one big screen in your hand, but very portable. I can say it works really well when playing around with the 3D camera's. Move the camera's in and out when video recording a person face, it does an excellent job of making the face appear as though it is protruding out of EVO 3D's qhd screen. (Weird, especially if it's Dan H)

Big news that nobody is talking about is DLNA and DRM.
DRM: EVOtees have been clammering for Netflix, Hulu, and Blockbuster. You all know that it’s been slow going due to DRM issues. This will not be the case with EVO 3D. Scorpion chipset and some back door work not only enabled this, but polished to a point of being effortless. DRM validation is instantaneous. You go to your favorite Digital content provider, handshakes with DRM on your EVO 3D and your done. Login to your account, your streaming! I thought it was a load of you know what with original EVO. Original EVO will have this feature as well.

DLNA: This technology has been out for some time, but I feel sense UI 2.0 has been able to put the polish it needs to shine. The DRM issue resolved, DLNA will not only allow for digital content to stream to EVO 3D, but to any DLNA certified HDTV/PC monitor/DLNA Mobile device. I am sure your asking what does that mean and how does it apply to us? (Example) Sitting in a local coffee shop, your friend is sporting HTC View tab and you HTC EVO 3D. You ask if your friend has seen this movie.(No) You say start up HTC Media Link and we can check out together. Both of you are watching the same movie on your "OWN" device having a cup of Joe.
HTC Media link will be incorperated in both View and EVO. So far we have tested and ran. 720p/1080p/BMP/GIF/JPEG/XVID/3GP/WMV/MPEG4/H.263/H.264 video formats and Audio: WMA/AAC/MP3/ACC+
So far we are just working on the GUI for improved user interface. Functionality certified, and expected at launch.

Root: I know there is concern out there that "I don't want to have to root my EVO to do XYZ" Every effort is being made to include everything possible up front for EVO 3D right out of the box. (Netflix, Hulu, Full hdmi mirroring, and HTC Media Link) I still need acknowledge Dev community. They have not only kept EVO 4G fresh, vibrant, but more importantly relevant. We want to respect the efforts of the DEV community and honor why android OS is about choice. That is why EVO 3D will not be shipping with a boot loader lock.

Bluetooth: larger library, we herd, we listen, and we going to deliver. (fingers crossed) We are in the process of setting up a library targeting specifically for k/b, mouse, and yes game pads. I mentioned in an early post w/new sense UI 2.0 EVO 3D will be more at home than ever in landscape mode. We have simultaneously used bluetooth k/b mouse combo with DLNA in the back ground. You can look up Netflix movies w/mouse/kb and stream it to DLNA HDTV. We’ve been listening.

I know on the thread somebody mentioned they would like more on board memory cause XYZ phone has 16gig on board memory. Cost is important factor to consider, because we know we need to make EVO 3D appealing to everyone. Most devices with a 16gig, 32gig, have the option of a removable sdcard. DRM improvements has allowed us to enhance app2sd. Once again, were early in the game as silicon improves, it's a simple matter of swapping out die's. So there is a potential of improvement, if we can do it, and keep cost to the consumer in mind, it will happen. I am sure you all have herd of 128gig sdcard and were working on getting that implemented for original EVO through either the Dev community or OTA. EVO 3D can't talk about that.

fps lock: Not on EVO 3D. Dual core processors, larger battery, more efficient Adreno GPU made this a non issue.

Last but not least, on a lighter note, EVO 3D printing money? Not in our life time! Sprint does have some great programs supporting EVO 3D, like $125 dollars off to port over a new cell number, premier customer program, and mail in rebate. That is about as close EVO 3D will get to printing money! (Enjoyed YouTube Clip too.)
Now it’s time for a fine scotch/cigar and catch a plane in the morning.
Enjoy the show! Cheers,
[FONT=&quot]BSOD(>-_0<)[/FONT]

 

[Sgt. Slaughter]

BSOD,

Good to hear the EVO3D isn't going to be locked down like the Thunderbolt is!!! Thats GREAT News if it does end up being true!
Totally understand the issue with internal memory as when you get to including all the other features cost is huge and with APPS2SD in FROYO and most big apps installing on SD card anyway i dont think it will be that big of a deal. Something bigger than the EVO would be nice though, but 16GB is not needed at this point since we have SD bay.
I got a little confused on size based on your earlier post. I took it as the screen was going to be bigger while the form factor would be the same, and in turn there isn't enough room for the HTC logo even on the front like it is now. Now it seems its the other way around where the overall length of the phone is smaller and screen size is the same? Which is right, and is this another change from your prev post or did I just mistake it when I read it first?

Will the wireless chip include support for 802.11n over 5GHz band also and not limit it to only 2.5GHz?
What improvements in WiMax chip can we expect if any?
I take it NFC wont be on board as I would of expected you to mention that if it were already? I know its newer tech but its starting to pick up fast and will catch like wild fire when it does in the stores, which I fully expect it to with the recent deals being made.

thanks again for the info. I dont post much on here as I'm usually roaming around XDA getting new roms to test and tweak out.

 

[BlueScreen]

@Sgt. Slaughter, EVO 3D won't be locked down. Expect that to be fully announced at CTIA. I come to appreciate what the dev community brings to the table. Every effort is expected that EVO is more about Evolving and keeping up with the rapid change in technology. Single enitity/corperation cannot keep pace with millions of brilliant minds coming together and inventing something new almost every month. I understand/appreciate it and plan to keep that with in our corporate culture.
I understand the confusion factor in screen dimensions. 4.3in diameter is the max for consumer tolerance for people looking for portability in a cell phone. It's important to understand there is a need for people wanting larger screen size and we feel the tab market will meet that part of consumer demand. More importantly we feel a synergy between the two will need to be met. EVO 3D and EVO View will bridge that gap and meet the demands in more ways then one.

DLNA specs are public knowledge, but 802.11n is most definitely supported, and bandwidth can't be discussed. DNLA has affective radius over 100ft and transmit through walls unimpeded.

NFC is a vital part to EVO 3D.
I hope that helps with your questions.
BSOD(>-_0<)

 

[Essex]

Sucks that EVO 3D won't be able to print money. I was looking forward to that feature Ah well, I guess I'll just have to enjoy all the other kick-@$$ features! Thanks for the info BSOD!

CAN'T WAIT!

 

[SamuraiBigEd]

Everything else has me stoked, but the screen size/form factor are not what I was looking for. Somebody is missing the point somewhere, the tablets won't fit this need because they aren't phones and the people who are looking for a larger screen on the Evo aren't wanting a 7" phone. I have heard people here saying they want it the same or smaller (which would have been a huge mistake), but of the people I have personally talked to who have Evos over 90% said they wish it was just a little bigger and that is a lot of people.

Oh well, dan didn't get his wish about printing money so I guess that is some consolation...

 

[original00]

Thanks Bluescreen for all this juicy info. I feel like this is like TMZ and we're all getting the scoop. lol. I love the fact that the phone will be a little smaller but you kept the screen. Didn't think it was possible but you guys r working magic over there.

Can you comment on the battery charging issues? I hope its fixed for the Evo3D

 

[original00]

Samurai,
The success of the Evo ushered in the age of 4.3 inch phones being accepted as a screen size. I understand the need to shrink the Evo (while keeping the screen size) as that will probably bring even more mass appeal to the phone. Samsung already has a 4.5 screen but I think manufacturers are cautious as I don't think the dell streak was a hit at 5". I prefer 4.3 but I think 4" is the sweet spot for most people but with people getting used to tablets I can see 4.3 becoming the new standard. Its funny after using the ipad for a while, the Evo screen starts to look a lil small.lol

 

[BlueScreen]

@SamuraibigEd, Between 4.3in and 7in Capcitive touch display there is no market/manufacture that could meet or beat our needs on the next obvious step in technology. Some would argue why, would I purchase a tab when EVO is only 2.7in smaller than a 7in tab. Since, we are talking about cell phone, we leaned more on the side on quality and not quantity. Quantity brings up whole new issue with battery life/portability. Tab devices are not asked to be the swiss army knife to the extent cell phones are. (4G/3G/Wifi/Hotspot/GPS/HD Vid Recorder/10mp camera/Vid Chat/3D Video/3D pic/Wireless Digital Content streaming/hdmi/NFC/ this all required a delicate balancing act. The new form factor gives the new EVO screen the appearance of being larger than what is. Hope that help.


@original100, Yes, we addressed it on EVO 3D and resolved w/ manufacturer/tweaks. The new battery will still be red. I would like to say "this" EVO is low on juice, but it's not. Getting much needed rest before touching down. Once again tune into all online sites and enjoy the show.
BSOD(>-_0<)

 

[OpticCacophony]

I usually lurk here but I would like to say thank you very much for your correspondence with us. The Evo 3D info sounds amazing but what really caught my attention was your claim that Sprint monitors this boards like a hawk and are actually listening to our complaints. The fact that you came on here to converse with us and answer questions in your free time is an awesome thing and I wish more companies would do that too.

Good luck with the presentation.

 

[Doomstang]

Yayyy the charging issue will be resolved. I just woke up and read the new posts and my Evo is down to 91% battery already so this is a definite bonus that when I take my phone off the charger (in the future), it will be fully charged

 

[grimloch]

@BlueScreen - I believe the Qualcomm processor in the Evo 3D supports simultaneous voice/data [OVER 3G] ala the processor in the HTC Thunderbolt. Can you confirm this functionality for the Evo 3D?

 

[MsRandall]

I wonder if the evo 3d will be available in different colors. I was a early adopter of the evo...Got it on 5/21/10 from the Google convention but I love the white verison. Even thought about changing the housing on mine.

 

[Doomstang]

AT&T is trying to steal some of Sprint's thunder. Per a BGR article just posted,

AT&T just announced that it is soon adding two new high-end smartphones to its portfolio: the LG Thrill 4G and the HTC HD7S. The Thrill 4G is the first smartphone to launch in the United States with a 4.3-inch stereoscope 3D display that doesn

 

[crabjoe]

@BlueScreen - I believe the Qualcomm processor in the Evo 3D supports simultaneous voice/data [OVER 3G] ala the processor in the HTC Thunderbolt. Can you confirm this functionality for the Evo 3D?

I heard it will also, but it will still depend on the network. If Sprint doesn't upgrade to EVDO Rev B, you won't be able to use the feature.

 

[grimloch]

I heard it will also, but it will still depend on the network. If Sprint doesn't upgrade to EVDO Rev B, you won't be able to use the feature.

Pretty sure that SVDO does not require any network changes and has nothing to do with EVDO Rev B. It must be supported through the hardware/software of the device. Voice over 1x and data over EVDO, and the most recent Qualcomm processors are the first to be SVDO capable, which is why we've never seen this functionality previously on CDMA.

Edit:

SVDO Info here: Svdo

 

[akayareal]

The problem with AT&T trying to steal some shine is the phones they are releasing are brand new and do not already have a following and reputation behind it.

This show is already known for being Sprint's big show and that Sprint not only has the new Evo but a number of new devices to announce.

As far as if the new Evo will be able to do 3g voice and data simultaneously, I would not be surprised if that is a issue they are currently trying to work out and may or may not announce tomorrow. Remember when the Evo was announced, it was a question of if they were going to be able to do it with 4g.

With it having no network update needed, I would see no reason why Sprint would not be working to get that working right out of the box for those who dont live in 4g areas and would like to have that.

Some say thats not a big feature or they would not or do not use it much but when tethering that makes a world of difference to be able to take a call and still continue browsing or looking up info or just be able to hold a full convo and not have to call someone back to do something on line.

I can say I am almost as excited as I was last yr when the Evo was announced but they blew my mind with everything that was on it and hope they do that again this yr with some things that BlueSrceen cant mention!

 

[Orion]

AT&T is trying to steal some of Sprint's thunder. Per a BGR article just posted,

At&t can try all they want. Sprint is the main event of that show.

 

[dkotoric]

has this been discussed or did I miss it but what screen technology will be in the evo. LCD or something else.

 

[drexappeal]

AT&T is trying to steal some of Sprint's thunder. Per a BGR article just posted,

Oh, so that's where the LG 3D information was being rumored about. Originally, when talks about the EVO 3D came out, there were some articles saying that it was a LG phone, not HTC...Now I see the connection.

Regardless, AT&T is doing a smart thing by trying to beat Sprint to the punch, but we'll see how much thunder they steal by tomorrow...which I honestly don't see them stealing too much of. HTC already built a large following with the original EVO, so if the general consumer were to go with a product, it'd be with something they've heard of before (e.g. EVO) vs. some new LG phone.

 

[dan330]

AT&T is trying to steal some of Sprint's thunder. Per a BGR article just posted,

Oh, so that's where the LG 3D information was being rumored about. Originally, when talks about the EVO 3D came out, there were some articles saying that it was a LG phone, not HTC...Now I see the connection.

Regardless, AT&T is doing a smart thing by trying to beat Sprint to the punch, but we'll see how much thunder they steal by tomorrow...which I honestly don't see them stealing too much of. HTC already built a large following with the original EVO, so if the general consumer were to go with a product, it'd be with something they've heard of before (e.g. EVO) vs. some new LG phone.

yeah.. att will try.. they have to!!!.... smart business reaction.

but with EVO's following...
HTC showing us here (bluescreen) that hey back the evo communities...
att's history of crippling the iphone's competition...
sprint's commitment to unlimited data...
att's data plans and recent ..pay for tether or we will make you...
tmobile customers getting the shaft from att...

EVO 3D is looking to be a huge splash...for htc and sprint and us!


ps... i guess i can deal with the NO printing of money ... but I expect it to be resolved via OTA by xmas.

 

[evomattnc]

It doesnt even have to print money, just digitally store my visa so i can hold it up to the tap thing and use it as my debit card, yay no more plastic filling up my wallet and hurting my ass. No more risky than losing your wallet or your card. Im less likely to lose my phone, its always in my hand lol. You can use it at starbucks already but that just puts the upc for your starbucks card up on the screen to scan...

 

[BlueScreen]

Wow, seems like were creating quite buzz today. I haven't even had a chance to show up yet, and we are still a day away from announcing anything. I want to ensure people that there is going to be no thunder, spot light, and anything of the sort to be taken away from EVO 3D, EVO View, Nexus S 4G, and a few others to be announced.

I think it is time to kick things up a notch though. I predicted EVO 3D would have some folks asking themselves what the hell? I think will move into a next phase called industry first.

I will have to correct myself on a earlier post about EVO 3D and 10mp camera. I don't know if it is going to be a correction, but clarification. I will go into that later.

First:
1) HTC EVO 3D will isolate twin cameras to produce the firsts 180 degree panoramic photo at 5mp resolution. (Option will be in sense UI)
2) HTC EVO will produce the first ever 10mp photo on cell phone by using what is called paralax photo capture (each camera will capture an image and over lay it to produce 10mp photo) (Once again tap on 10mp photo)
3) Light sampling will be independent of each CMOS sensor to produce what will be close to night vision capture (Night Owl)
4) EVO 3D Hollywood, EVO 3D is only device on the market with next generation Qualcomm processor's with built in DRM. EVO 3D will support all digital streaming content (Netflix, Hulu, and other independent sites with DRM subscriptions.)
5) YouTube 3D part of the EVO 3D Hollywood pack.
6) True 4G, EVO 3D will be the industry first (LTE+WimaX) device. Sprint has plans for all 4G devices to be backwards compatible and be able to support (Wimax+LTE) (Shift/Epic/EVO/etc.)
7) Will be the first none Nexus device to launch with Google 2.3.3 Gingerbread.
8) Worlds first qHD 3D display on a 4.3in screen (Pixel Density Classified)
9) Industry first dual channel 1gig DDRRAM and with active 4gig tri-channel ROM (5gig total Ram with unlimited ROM as SDcard will act as more like a HD drive)
10) That is just a few of the industry first that will be presented on EVO 3D launch.
There will be no thunder stolen, no spot light stolen, and no industry first stolen from HTC EVO 3D gram for gram this is undisputed superphone.


We will over clock the cpu, gpu, and memory to a point of embarrassment. Scorpion has had no problems testing at 2.0ghz, Andrenio x2 clocks, memory 50% clock. I know this would come at a cost to battery life, but larger battery will handle it better then current EVO. A phone launching the same time as EVO 3D will be irrelevant for at least one year. I think it best for companies to slow there roll and go with the flow and stay stock for the time being.
I wanted to launch EVO 3D July 4th for obvious reasons, but now it will be in June in celebration of EVO 4G one year anniversary.

VP of one company/Chairman of another company/Fellow of IEEE/Phd. Mathematics /Phd. Computer Science /Phd. Plasma Physics /US Naval Pilot (5 Tours in Afghanistan and Iraq)
Regards,
BSOD

 

[sublog]

@BlueScreen

I apologize if this has already been mentioned, but will the new EVO3D have improvements of the picture quality, specifically, higher shutter speeds when using flash, and better exposure metering?

The pictures the EVO takes outside are pretty good. Inside, almost worthless. I love my EVO, but the camera is truly horrible IMHO. I REALLY hope with the dual cameras, the PQ is much improved.

Edit: Just saw above post. I'm hoping the lowered megapixel counts will allow better light capture on the camera sensor. Lower grain, faster shutter speeds, etc...

THANK YOU so much for sharing all of this info!!!!! I really appreciate the transparency, and love you guys for being open and honest with us!

 

[Surface2Air]

@BlueScreen

All-time lurker, just registered just to say WOW.

That's all I have to say. Unbelievable.

It was so difficult for me waiting to pull the trigger to upgrade (still waiting) to get my first Droid phone.

EVO 3D has done it. June will be a good month.

 

[dan330]

bluescreen....

the backward compatible you keep mentioning in a few places.. has me excited... for my OG evo...

thanks a bunch..for everything.. hope you aint pulling our collective legs!