Root Is there a 1-click root yet?

[Left Coast DJ]

I'm an Android noob. And I'd love to root my TBolt, primarily to get rid of the bloatware. But is there a simple root process available or in the pipeline yet?

 

[Odinist]

The root process IS simple. It's just time-consuming.

If this is your first time rooting, why not do it this way and actually learn what's going on, instead of just pressing a button?

 

[bjanow]

I'm an Android noob. And I'd love to root my TBolt, primarily to get rid of the bloatware. But is there a simple root process available or in the pipeline yet?

Not yet but in the pipeline. Maybe another week or so?

 

[bjanow]

The root process IS simple. It's just time-consuming.

If this is your first time rooting, why not do it this way and actually learn what's going on, instead of just pressing a button?

It is kind of scary though.

 

[mrjinglesusa]

It is kind of scary though.

http://androidforums.com/thunderbol...t-your-thunderbolt-but-adb-confusing-you.html

Full disclosure: Although I know how to use ADB, I'm waiting for Unrevoked to release a 1-click rooting method for stock software that doesn't require downloading almost 1 GB of files, downgrading software, applying expoits, and then upgrading software. For me, it's just not worth the hassle to remove bloat, especially since there are not a lot of custom ROMs/kernels available yet.

 

[Papadroid]

It is kind of scary though.

It's really not that bad. I know a lot of people are not comfortable with adb because they see all the different command lines and get intimidated by them; but the hardest part for most is getting adb to see the phone. Once adb sees the phone it's a matter of typing the exact commands or even copying and pasting the commands. I agree with the previous poster, it's not hard it's just time consuming. It's pretty hard to do something catastrophic to your phone. Just my two cents and not trying to force anyone to do something they don't want to.

 

[Papadroid]

http://androidforums.com/thunderbol...t-your-thunderbolt-but-adb-confusing-you.html

Full disclosure: Although I know how to use ADB, I'm waiting for Unrevoked to release a 1-click rooting method for stock software that doesn't require downloading almost 1 GB of files, downgrading software, applying expoits, and then upgrading software. For me, it's just not worth the hassle to remove bloat, especially since there are not a lot of custom ROMs/kernels available yet.

That I do agree with. But I like doing things through adb mainly because if something goes wrong down the road I have the confidence to use it if I need it.

 

[ska.t73]

http://androidforums.com/thunderbol...t-your-thunderbolt-but-adb-confusing-you.html

Full disclosure: Although I know how to use ADB, I'm waiting for Unrevoked to release a 1-click rooting method for stock software that doesn't require downloading almost 1 GB of files, downgrading software, applying expoits, and then upgrading software. For me, it's just not worth the hassle to remove bloat, especially since there are not a lot of custom ROMs/kernels available yet.

Going to agree with you on that whole thing. I know ADB, used the heck out of it with my OG Droid, so I'm very comfortable with it. However I'm waiting for the easier method. Hopefully one that will not wipe the whole device so I can save the current setup I have with nandroid...

 

[howarmat]

Going to agree with you on that whole thing. I know ADB, used the heck out of it with my OG Droid, so I'm very comfortable with it. However I'm waiting for the easier method. Hopefully one that will not wipe the whole device so I can save the current setup I have with nandroid...

this.....I really want to back up some things then wipe and restart fresh with no bloat

 

[WormDoes]

Going to agree with you on that whole thing. I know ADB, used the heck out of it with my OG Droid, so I'm very comfortable with it. However I'm waiting for the easier method. Hopefully one that will not wipe the whole device so I can save the current setup I have with nandroid...

+1 I'm not familiar with ADB, but I'm pretty sure I could figure this out. I'm trying to hold out for an easier method, but I'm very tempted to try it now and remove all this bloat and sense

 

[ridobe]

+1 I'm not familiar with ADB, but I'm pretty sure I could figure this out. I'm trying to hold out for an easier method, but I'm very tempted to try it now and remove all this bloat and sense

Your statement pretty much sums my situation.

 

[gmenfan83]

As stated above don't be scared of it ...once you get it to recognize in windows (which for some reason on my new pc was like pulling teeth lol) its easy from there ....I have set up and used abd on three machines ...two windows and one linux (linux being the much easier setup for me at least ) but if your not familiar with the command line I see why one would be nervous. The best thing may be to get adb setup then try some simple commands like pushing or deleting files in your device like apps and such ....there are also reboot commands ...try these out to get a feel for adb and boost confidence ...you can google adb commands and find many ....good luck!

 

[Papadroid]

^^^ Great advice!

 

[djkeller3]

Once adb sees the phone it's a matter of typing the exact commands or even copying and pasting the commands.

Then can we assume it won't be too difficult for XDA or other(s) to comprise a 1-click solution that automates this process?

For the most part, I'm loving my T-Bolt, but there are some oddities that are annoying me that I'd love to get rid of by rooting.

 

[Left Coast DJ]

I haven't used a command line since Apple II back in school (lulz). Though I'm not afraid to figure it out, I too would rather wait for a point and clicky root. Besides, if a command line root exists, someone smart should be able to write a script to automate it.

 

[bjanow]

I think you would still need adb at this point even with a script.

 

[mrjinglesusa]

Then can we assume it won't be too difficult for XDA or other(s) to comprise a 1-click solution that automates this process?

Unfortunately, no.

The current root method requires a little more than simply running ADB commands. You need almost 1 GB of files (2 RUUs and .zip file with the exploits). You still have to move those RUUs to your SD card and flash them. Although an ADB command can reboot your phone, it can't press volume up to OK the flash. The current method also requires downloading an RUU than the exploits work on. Unfortunately, these exploits don't worked on the shipped RUU.

BTW, someone on XDA made an automated process for using this root method but jcase wouldn't let him release it.

A true 1-click method for rooting the shipped RUU is going to require the Devs to find some other way to crack the shipped, signed bootloader (and maybe other files, I'm no developer).

It took several months to get a 1-click root for the Incredible's shipped firmware from Unrevoked. The TB is more locked down so I expect it might take more than a week or two.

In the mean time, I plan on enjoying my TB with the shipped software.

 

[scotty85]

Your statement pretty much sums my situation.

pretty much sums it up for me,to. im thinking i will put my eris back to stock and become a lil more comfortable with ADB on it... then if no easier root methods exist ill give this a shot.

i read thru the "1 click root app" thread over on xda:
One click root and s-off????? - xda-developers

im a little confused if the "easy root" mentioned there and above is being withheld because its not 100% safe,or simply because some of the developers just simply dont want to release it because they want users to learn ADB.

if its the former im fine with that. dont release it if its got potential issues.... people can learn ADB or suck it up and wait. if its the latter,i have other thots on that.

 

[WormDoes]

I actually posted a comment in jcases thread on xda about this and never got a response. I, too, was uncertain why if an "easy root and s-off" was made why the release isn't going public. I'm not sure if it's jcase believes it's not safe or what, but I just wanted an answer. I'm sure there's a good reason, though.

 

[cica322]

If I do end up rooting the old fashioned way, will one-click unroot still be an option for me, or will one-click not be able to unroot because I didn't use that program to root it?

Also, is the rooted rom identical to the stock rom with sense ui and bloatware, or was it trimmed down?

Thanks,
-Tom

 

[WormDoes]

If I do end up rooting the old fashioned way, will one-click unroot still be an option for me, or will one-click not be able to unroot because I didn't use that program to root it?

Also, is the rooted rom identical to the stock rom with sense ui and bloatware, or was it trimmed down?

Thanks,
-Tom

Don't know the answer to your first question, but it's a good one and I'd like to know the answer as well.

The rooted ROM still has sense and the only thing different is it's newer firmware than what the stock thunderbolts shipped with (you won't even notice a difference) and all the bloat has been stripped, ie: rock band, amazon, city id, etc.

 

[Stevessvt]

What is there to do if something goes horribly wrong? Coming from Droid x you could always sbf back to stock, what can be done to go back to totally stock if needed?

 

[howarmat]

i dont think the "easy root" was totally legit. i mean it might have worked for some things but not completely.

 

[Papadroid]

If I do end up rooting the old fashioned way, will one-click unroot still be an option for me, or will one-click not be able to unroot because I didn't use that program to root it?

Also, is the rooted rom identical to the stock rom with sense ui and bloatware, or was it trimmed down?

Thanks,
-Tom

Once the current RUU gets released it will be a simple flash to restore the phone to default.

 

[bjanow]

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The rooted ROM still has sense and the only thing different is it's newer firmware than what the stock thunderbolts shipped with (you won't even notice a difference) and all the bloat has been stripped, ie: rock band, amazon, city id, etc.

Not so. It's completely stock, you will need to remove the bloat yourself.