Motorola potentially reducing Xoom orders.

[GAANDROID]

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I'll answer this part of your reply.

The Toshiba is clearly a better tablet spec wise than the Xoom. Full size HDMI, Full size USB host, mini USB, advanced graphics enhancement. Replaceable battery should you want it. Rubber back for ease of grip. There is no part of the Toshiba other than its not here that is worse than the Xoom. But given this, I am not sure I want to wait 3 more months for it. The Xoom looks good and I can work around/live with the above things.

The ASUS Transformer also looks better than the Xoom. That may actually be coming in early April.

The Samsung looks like it could be a wash on the Xoom, better in some respects, not as good in other. But its a June tablet too so I would not bother with it.

If I was so inclined ot wait until June - I would be willing to bet that the 10 inch tab HTC puts out will be better than the Xoom too. I don't know that because HTC is so secretive. But the Flyer's main faults were that it was 7 inches and it did not have honeycomb - both fixed with their 10 inch. The flyer in other respects is a better tablet (OS aside) - why not assume HTC's 10 inch tablet would be better still?

I guess I'm just not as impressed with the toshiba tablet. It kinda looks cheap to me, full usb or no full usb. As for the HTC Flyer, I don't know much about it and I don't hear anyone talking about it. That doesn't mean that its not a good tablet though. I guess I'm just saying that if a tablet comes out 4 or 5 months after the xoom they better have more to bring to the table than a full usb slot and a full hdmi port. Me personally, I would rather go with the company that Google hand picked to be the first to run honeycomb.

 

[ren857]

The Toshiba is clearly a better tablet spec wise than the Xoom. Full size HDMI, Full size USB host, mini USB, advanced graphics enhancement. Replaceable battery should you want it. Rubber back for ease of grip. There is no part of the Toshiba other than its not here that is worse than the Xoom. But given this, I am not sure I want to wait 3 more months for it. The Xoom looks good and I can work around/live with the above things.

That toshiba tablet will probably cost around $700-$900. You will not get those specs for $600.

 

[gamul1]

Just to follow up - Unless Toshiba announces a release date today/tomorrow and that release date is before mid May - I think I will pull the trigger on purchasing the Xoom on Sunday. As I doubt that will happen I am assuming I will buy this - unless they are out of stock when I get there.

 

[Android4all]

I've seen and heard rumors that the price of the Toshiba tablet is suppose to be in line with the Ipad 2 but won't be released until mid-June.

 

[jroc]

Incredible owners that hang out in the forums should remember all the Incredible discontinued rumors last year...

All that happened was the Incredible had a SKU change for adding an SD card or something.

What this might be is a SKU change for XOOMs that need to have 4G added after purchase. Arent Motorola gonna start shipping XOOMs with 4G already installed?

 

[gamul1]

I decided I don't care after all if it is discontinued. It will still work for me.

Unless Toshiba shocks me with an announcement today/tomorrow - I'll be at Staples when they open Sunday morning for one of these.

 

[gpearson1968]

LOL,

I don't begrudge you for thinking that this was sarcastic, with some of the other responses I've seen. Just that I am in the same boat as you, waiting for the right tablet with the right tech for the right price to show up, and the market hasn't delivered. I was actually a little surprised that you're 'settling' on a XOOM before we know the prices of the Toshiba, or the prices of the ASUS transformer, etc etc.

I'm still quite hopeful on the $399 Asus Transformer, but stopped holding my breath after being let down by the Notion Ink Adam. Now, I'm probably waiting until LG and viewsonic and maybe even vizio and lenovo get their tabs out there......

Just didn't want to be left alone in the boat.....

** sigh **

Cheers
gpearson1968

 

[gamul1]

Ah! See - I was too dense.

I was actually a little surprised that you're 'settling' on a XOOM

Considering the Toshiba vs the Xoom, I agree I feel like I am settling a little bit. But I have to decide if 3 more months is worth waiting for the differences. I decided not. I may regret that later on when I am sitting next to you in the coffee shop, you with your Toshiba and me with the Xoom, but I'll deal I guess. Most of the differences I think I will get over fairly quickly. I am a little worried about settling if the Toshiba's graphics are much improved over the Xoom.

before we know the prices of the Toshiba, or the prices of the ASUS transformer, etc etc.

I'm still quite hopeful on the $399 Asus Transformer,

Hmmm - $399 is not what I have heard on the Transformer. The price range I have hear was between $499 and $699 depending on amount of memory. If you want the keyboard that goes with it that would be even more. Nothing official but thats what I heard. I decided against the Transformer because after looking over the specs I could find I think the graphics quality will be slightly less than the Xoom. The other extras were not enough for me.

Just didn't want to be left alone in the boat.....

Nah - you won't be alone. I am sure many are still waiting. Even after you buy, many will still wait. They will constantly wait for the best tablet. At some point you have to draw a line in the sand and jump in.

but stopped holding my breath after being let down by the Notion Ink Adam.

Oh man - have you tried to still follow the Notion Ink blog? What a total cluster *d*uck NI turned out to be. Every once in a while I log into the blog. Rohan has stopped replying to people for the most part. Orders are constantly delayed still. People are getting the run around. And quite frankly, the reviews I have seen on the adam turned out to be that the device is just "ok". It was an amazing dream for a while but I am so very glad I stepped away from that. John Biggs was so right about this one - a lot of people owe him an apology.

Now, I'm probably waiting until LG and viewsonic and maybe even vizio and lenovo get their tabs out there......

I can't convince myself the LG (assuming were talking the 8.9 3D) is better than the Xoom. Pricing does not sound better either.

What Viewsonic you looking at? Not too familiar with that one so much.

 

[zipur]

Trying to figure out of this is sarcasm because of my back and forth on all this - or if I am too dense to get the point.....

This is my deam tablete Im waiting for...

Toshiba says their tablet is better than Ipad 2 or Xoom

 

[llescaflownell]

Wow, those are some bold statements made from Toshiba. If it really is in fact better than the iPad2 and Xoom, it better have a slew of added specs like full USB host, USB charging, excellent screen, codecs up the wazoo, 1.5 Ghz dual core, 1+ gig ram, on top of that being priced sub 600. If that were the case, I would drop the Xoom preorder and wait this one out lol.

 

[gpearson1968]

The ones I'm hopeful for are :

Samsung 10.1 ( $499 - 16Gb ) - Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 Full Specifications And Price Details - Gadgetian

Toshiba - ( $499 ? ) "Although recently a document has leaked for tablet availability at Staples stores here in the US. The document showed –among many other tablets– a Toshiba 10″ tablet with 32GB storage running Android 3.0 Honeycomb listed for launch in June of this year for $499." - Toshiba Android 3.0 Tablet Get?s A Notification Page, Is It Launching Soon? | uTablets.eu - The latest news about Tablets and eReaders -> Staples Leaks Ship Dates For Acer And Toshiba Tablets | everything Android Forums

Asus Transformer ( $? ) - hopefully we'll get a price today -> Asus Eee Pad Transformer Full Specifications And Price Details - Gadgetian

Vizio Tablet ( $350? ) -> Sneak Peek - VIZIO Tablet

The vizio has an IR-Blaster that might actually be useful. Only tablet I know that's got that option as a possibility. With the tech gear around my TV, I would love to have a tablet to run the whole mess.

Cheers,
gpearson1968

 

[sooper_droid12]

The one reason why the Xoom is still the king of the Android tablets? The fact that it's running completely STOCK Honeycomb and isn't locked. That is 100% of the reason why people should pick up the Xoom. Yeah, the Samsung tablet is thinner, lighter, but it's also got TouchWiz. Toshiba's tablet is already showing the four hard buttons for navigation (home, back, menu, search). That means that it's going to have some baked-in additional functionality that won't map to future updates and will have to wait for Toshiba to massage in. Unless someone brings out another STOCK HC tablet, Xoom is still unbeatable on the Google tablet front.

 

[Mitchrapp]

The one reason why the Xoom is still the king of the Android tablets? The fact that it's running completely STOCK Honeycomb and isn't locked. That is 100% of the reason why people should pick up the Xoom. Yeah, the Samsung tablet is thinner, lighter, but it's also got TouchWiz. Toshiba's tablet is already showing the four hard buttons for navigation (home, back, menu, search). That means that it's going to have some baked-in additional functionality that won't map to future updates and will have to wait for Toshiba to massage in. Unless someone brings out another STOCK HC tablet, Xoom is still unbeatable on the Google tablet front.

Good points.

 

[smilepak]

Given the popularity of WiFi Xoom over yesterday sales, I doubt they will discontinued it. It was sold out at a lot of Costco and Bestbuy within hours. There was a small line infront of a few Bestbuy over night for them.

I spoke with some of the Best Buy manager and Costco guy and they all asid the Xoom caught them by surprise in terms of volume and demand.

 

[k0smo86]

Given the popularity of WiFi Xoom over yesterday sales, I doubt they will discontinued it. It was sold out at a lot of Costco and Bestbuy within hours. There was a small line infront of a few Bestbuy over night for them.

I spoke with some of the Best Buy manager and Costco guy and they all asid the Xoom caught them by surprise in terms of volume and demand.

I was expecting the same thing at the Millenia Mall in Orlando yesterday. But there wasn't a person in sight near the Xoom on display, many of the sales reps had no clue they even had a wifi model.

 

[publicanimal]

I wouldn't read too much into this guys. All this article is saying is that Motorola is planning to "reducing shipment numbers in June" for the Xoom. That certainly sounds sensible to me! For mobile devices, including tablets, demand for a new, cutting edge device peaks close to the launch date and tends to taper off as new competitors enter the market. So why would they continue to ship "launch date" levels of product to a decreased demand-base?

If I were Motorola, and I was planning on how many units to ship several months in the future of a currently "new" device, the sensible plan would be to reduce shipping numbers as there is likely to be increased competition and it is time to start developing a device for the next generation of tech (which increases in capacity/processing speed/RAM exponentially if you haven't noticed). Apple would do the exact same thing!

The article is basically saying "This summer, Motorola is planning to do what any competitive tech business would do." In other words it is pure fluff. Whoever linked to an article from AppleInsider.com about an Android product on an Android forum should reconsider doing so in the future. The bias of that site is a little obvious.

 

[Covart]

Motorola's iPad-rival "Xoom" tablet sales slashed to 100,000 units

By Daniel Eran Dilger
Published: 01:05 PM EST

Google's flagship Android 3.0 Honeycomb competitor to Apple's iPad appears to have failed at launch, with Motorola Xoom sales estimated by Deutsche Bank to have reached just 100,000 units, a figure far lower than initial projections of failure from Morgan Stanley and RBC.

Doesn't sound like the Xoom is going to be around long. Playbook doesnt look any better either. But Samsung and Toshiba might have something.

 

[Joe Dirt]

They priced themselves out of market. It cost more than an ipad.

 

[Ltgk20]

As has been posted a few other places, to have a brand new pad on a brand new operating system it may not be quite as bad as it sounds. The wifi version has only been available for a week or two. I've got one and I love it. I am under no misconception that it'll ever sell as well as the Ipad or Ipad 2 but then neither did the OG Droid but they still sold lots of them. Plus, 100,000 devices at a avg sales price of 700 or so isn't a small amount of money.

 

[Martimus]

A market survey by a bank?? LOL

 

[Yeahha]

They looked at all android devices running 3.0 the xoom is the only official 1. You know moto isn't going to disclose such a sorry result

 

[PSkeptic]

They priced themselves out of market. It cost more than an ipad.

When compared to a comparable model, it only costs about $30 more.

 

[PSkeptic]

As has been posted a few other places, to have a brand new pad on a brand new operating system it may not be quite as bad as it sounds. The wifi version has only been available for a week or two. I've got one and I love it. I am under no misconception that it'll ever sell as well as the Ipad or Ipad 2 but then neither did the OG Droid but they still sold lots of them. Plus, 100,000 devices at a avg sales price of 700 or so isn't a small amount of money.

Hey, you sound exactly like the Apple fans

"Sure, Apple doesn't sell a whole lot of them, but they make more profit on it!"

Note: This argument has been used to deny the fact that Android now has a larger market share than iOS, and also to defend the abysmal Mac OS stats.

 

[qwer]

When compared to a comparable model, it only costs about $30 more.

The average joe will buy either the cheaper product or the well-known product.

 

[PSkeptic]

The average joe will buy either the cheaper product or the well-known product.

Well, that being what it is, it needs to be put into comparison properly. You can not compare a 16GB Wifi-only iPad to a Xoom, based on price alone.

And, if what you claim is true, then Apple's entire marketing strategy should be failing. They are neither the most popular, nor the cheapest in the PC arena. However, they do command 15% of the market.