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HI all!

I'm new here, this is going to be my first post. I'm considering switching to Sprint, and have been shopping for plans and devices. I'm VERY interested in the EVO 3d, and wanted to ask a quick question in the hopes that the very knowledgeable folks here can help me to understand...

I read the comment from Bluescreen that "...the EVO 3d specs are set in stone and well known"....well, I have a hardware question. Where is the charging port on the EVO 3d going to be? Will it be on the bottom or the side? It may well seem a silly question, but I travel on business a LOT, and I use the Google Maps talking turn by turn directions a lot....(I'm kinda directionally challenged) and a plug sticking out of the side makes it very difficult or nearly impossible to put my device into a car phone holder....this is actually almost a deal breaker to me.

Thanks for your time, and I hope someone can help me!
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I initially was sad to see the charging port move to the side of EVO 3D myself. Once it was explained to as why the sudden switch was approved. I quickly began to understand.
1)Is the need to make sure EVO 3D is cutting edge in technology at launch.
2)Consumers demanded a more robust charging port
3)The need to reduce carrying around different cables.

I use a windshield mounted Garmin Nuvi GPS holder. The Garmin Nuvi is almost identical in dimensions to that EVO 4G. I use a coiled car charger as I do not like things loose. I use my EVO 4G in landscape mode when taking advantage of the GPS feature in my car. This setup has the charging port sticking out the side of the phone while in landscape mode and putting lot of stress on the charging port while plugged in. The bonus to EVO 3D charging port on the side is while mounted to a windshield phone holder in landscape mode the charging cable will now hang from the bottom of EVO 3D and put no stress on the charging part.

"MHL" port as it correctly called being located on the side and EVO 3D ability to rotate 360 degree's. I can be plugged in to take advantage of MHL's other features and it does not get in the way in landscape mode like EVO 4G bottom placed ports while holding the device.

Lastly, The current setup with EVO 3D charging port placement does not allow you to charge while using the kickstand. EVO 3D is currently able to run 8-10hrs on a single charge under extreme usage. EVO 3D is not going to have battery issues as with EVO 4G. You will get a full day usage before needing to charge. I think we should be okay on long trips while using the kickstand on EVO 3D. Make sure you charge up before going to bed.
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This is obviously from jan, 2011. Gives a good idea how long EVO 3D has been in the making. Since EVO 3D is the only 3D device supporting MSM8660 in the coming future. Funny, one goof ball talks about Thunderbolt and that was not even Qualcomm center piece at the event. I thought this gives a good example of what to expect from EVO 3D when outputting 3D content to a HDTV. I think it is safe to say EVO 3D will take lead on many different stats and functionality. EVO 3D will be standing on top and talked about.
YouTube - Qualcomm Blogger Roundtable at CES 2011

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EVO 3D is currently able to run 8-10hrs on a single charge under extreme usage.

What would you consider "extreme usage?" I regularly stream TV from my slingbox or Orb account. My Evo typically lasts ~2-3 hours during these sessions. One time I mirrored content from my Orb account to a TV for ~ 40 minutes & the phone got H-O-T!!

I guess what I'm trying to say is, what's "extreme usage?"
 
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Welcome to Android Forums,


I initially was sad to see the charging port move to the side of EVO 3D myself. Once it was explained to as why the sudden switch was approved. I quickly began to understand.
1)Is the need to make sure EVO 3D is cutting edge in technology at launch.
2)Consumers demanded a more robust charging port
3)The need to reduce carrying around different cables.

I use a windshield mounted Garmin Nuvi GPS holder. The Garmin Nuvi is almost identical in dimensions to that EVO 4G. I use a coiled car charger as I do not like things loose. I use my EVO 4G in landscape mode when taking advantage of the GPS feature in my car. This setup has the charging port sticking out the side of the phone while in landscape mode and putting lot of stress on the charging port while plugged in. The bonus to EVO 3D charging port on the side is while mounted to a windshield phone holder in landscape mode the charging cable will now hang from the bottom of EVO 3D and put no stress on the charging part.

"MHL" port as it correctly called being located on the side and EVO 3D ability to rotate 360 degree's. I can be plugged in to take advantage of MHL's other features and it does not get in the way in landscape mode like EVO 4G bottom placed ports while holding the device.

Lastly, The current setup with EVO 3D charging port placement does not allow you to charge while using the kickstand. EVO 3D is currently able to run 8-10hrs on a single charge under extreme usage. EVO 3D is not going to have battery issues as with EVO 4G. You will get a full day usage before needing to charge. I think we should be okay on long trips while using the kickstand on EVO 3D. Make sure you charge up before going to bed.
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So what you are saying is that if you have your Evo 3D plugged into your computer charging at your desk you can just rotate it to the right and still watch in landscape mode (the charge port side would be facing up)?
 
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So what you are saying is that if you have your Evo 3D plugged into your computer charging at your desk you can just rotate it to the right and still watch in landscape mode (the charge port side would be facing up)?

Yes, long as you were holding it. kick stand doesn't flip out on that side. Though with the dock being a very likely accessory they should have the kickstand flip out the opposide compared to how it is now. That way if you wanna watch and charge you can without the dock too.
This is of course discussing the kickstand on the htc case.
 
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Hmmm, 8-10 hrs under heavy use. If I do nothing but browse on the EVO with my 1750 mah battery gives me 6-6.5 hours of internet surfing. If the 3D can go for 8-10 hours on a 1730 mah battery that's astounding.
It's not that astounding. According to this test from Laptop Mag, the Droid X got 40% more usage on a full charge than the Evo. The Droid X's 1540 mah battery is only slightly larger in capacity than the Evo battery.
 
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Welcome to Android Forums,


I initially was sad to see the charging port move to the side of EVO 3D myself. Once it was explained to as why the sudden switch was approved. I quickly began to understand.
1)Is the need to make sure EVO 3D is cutting edge in technology at launch.
2)Consumers demanded a more robust charging port
3)The need to reduce carrying around different cables.

I use a windshield mounted Garmin Nuvi GPS holder. The Garmin Nuvi is almost identical in dimensions to that EVO 4G. I use a coiled car charger as I do not like things loose. I use my EVO 4G in landscape mode when taking advantage of the GPS feature in my car. This setup has the charging port sticking out the side of the phone while in landscape mode and putting lot of stress on the charging port while plugged in. The bonus to EVO 3D charging port on the side is while mounted to a windshield phone holder in landscape mode the charging cable will now hang from the bottom of EVO 3D and put no stress on the charging part.

"MHL" port as it correctly called being located on the side and EVO 3D ability to rotate 360 degree's. I can be plugged in to take advantage of MHL's other features and it does not get in the way in landscape mode like EVO 4G bottom placed ports while holding the device.

Lastly, The current setup with EVO 3D charging port placement does not allow you to charge while using the kickstand. EVO 3D is currently able to run 8-10hrs on a single charge under extreme usage. EVO 3D is not going to have battery issues as with EVO 4G. You will get a full day usage before needing to charge. I think we should be okay on long trips while using the kickstand on EVO 3D. Make sure you charge up before going to bed.
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Thanks for the responses! Your explainations make sense. May I please ask another question, along the same lines? (Please keep in mind that I am considering switching to Sprint and am looking at the new EVO 3d, and that I am currently on TMO and running a Nexus One)

I currently use my Nexus One in portrait mode, because the stock O/S doesn't rotate the contacts list or phone dialer into landscape. I have to position it this way in order to have access to both the GPS functionality and to the screens I need for phone calls. (I pair my device with a bluetooth car speakerphone when driving) With the EVO with HTC's gui, when the phone is rotated into the landscape mode do the contacts list and phone dialer rotate to the appropriate orientation? Or is it similar to the N1 and contacts and dialer screens stay in portrait despite the EVO's being in landscape?

I know, I'm detail oriented...but I'm an engineer...and just wait til I get up the courage to ask about Sprint's service compared to T-Mobile's, and about their coverage around Dallas/Ft. Worth!! Bha-ha-ha-ha!!!

Thanks again!!
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It makes no sense to provide a qualitative assessment of usage (extreme usage) with a quantitative assessment of battery life (8-10hrs). Not that the info is false; it's just not useful.

Tell me quantitatively what that 8-10 hours really means. Not all usage affects the battery the same way. For example:

Customizing my ROM's skin for 8 hours straight is extreme usage in my book but probably won't make a big dent in the battery. Though my brightness setting will also affect the results.

Using Google Nav for 8 hours straight.... is impossible IMO given the Evo's track record. So far, I've not experienced anything that drains a battery faster than using the Nav. It's less than 2 hrs on the Evo.

Next big drainer is actual talk time. Can the Evo 3D allow for 8-10 hours of phone calls?

Some games drain CPU fast, depending on the volume of computation it's doing. Other games barely tickle the battery (think Sudoku).

Next, are we talking about 3G/4G/wifi for data? Each will require different levels of power. How much is syncing in the background? How many widgets are on your homescreen? etc. etc.

Obviously there are a lot of variables that can all be lumped under "extreme usage," so I'd want some quantitative usage made public along with "8-10 hours" before I'm convinced the device's battery life is much better than the Evo.

Science 101 here.
 
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I'm not sure which thread this fits in to be on-topic, but it's not really off-topic.

Earlier, novox77 and I discussed full HDMI output and input devices - and the subject of gaming on the 3D has come up as well.

This vid courtesy of ari-free who posted it at Phandroid (long vid at 7+ minutes, but I think worth it) -

YouTube - HTC Flyer tablet OnLive Steve Perlman

I don't know much about gaming, but I've heard things like the XBox and the PS3 (if I got that right) are quite the deal. Seems to me that cloud system does as advertised - gives the console experience on mobile devices - so, if they add 3D games to that stable of goodies...
 
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It makes no sense to provide a qualitative assessment of usage (extreme usage) with a quantitative assessment of battery life (8-10hrs). Not that the info is false; it's just not useful.

You spurred this question from me. On my OG D1 I was able to use the phone when the battery was unplugged. Is this the same for the EVO 4G? Hopefully this is the same for the EVO 3D because I hate having to keep my phone plugged into the car charger while driving on long road trips.
 
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You spurred this question from me. On my OG D1 I was able to use the phone when the battery was unplugged. Is this the same for the EVO 4G? Hopefully this is the same for the EVO 3D because I hate having to keep my phone plugged into the car charger while driving on long road trips.

Oh, I get it. You mean can the phone run on A/C power without a battery. Cause my kneejerk response when I first read this was: no; the phone goes dead the instant the battery is yanked, evidenced by the countless times I've soft-bricked my phone doing stupid stuff.

I don't know the answer to this, but I think I'm going to go try it in my car right now. I do this a lot on laptops when it's just being used at home and I'm not traveling much with it. Better for the battery (stays cool and somewhat discharged).

I'll report back with my field test shortly.
 
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You spurred this question from me. On my OG D1 I was able to use the phone when the battery was unplugged. Is this the same for the EVO 4G? Hopefully this is the same for the EVO 3D because I hate having to keep my phone plugged into the car charger while driving on long road trips.

No it doesn't work on the evo.
 
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Oh, I get it. You mean can the phone run on A/C power without a battery. Cause my kneejerk response when I first read this was: no; the phone goes dead the instant the battery is yanked, evidenced by the countless times I've soft-bricked my phone doing stupid stuff.

I don't know the answer to this, but I think I'm going to go try it in my car right now. I do this a lot on laptops when it's just being used at home and I'm not traveling much with it. Better for the battery (stays cool and somewhat discharged).

I'll report back with my field test shortly.

That is exactly what I do (as I sit here on my tablet with the battery pulled and the laptop plugged in). IIRC, there were some DInc users that were able to do it but the majority were not able to.
 
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Unless you own a block of shares in Sprint stock, how they provide unlimited data is irrelevant to you.

I think you've talked yourself into going to Verizon/Thunderbolt.

You want LTE
You want a kickstand
You want data limits
You want a recessed camera

That's Verizon, so just change over and make yourself happy.

Thanks for that suggestion! I would rather be active here and on Sprint forums where I can make a difference (no matter how small) rather than jump ship. OVERALL I am happy with my service and my phone, but not 100% (hence the activity here and on Sprint forums as to what can be done better).

To clarify, I didn't say I wanted LTE ever (that is to say, if Sprint doesn't add LTE to their mix, I won't lose any sleep). What I DID say is that I want Sprint's 4G (whatever it may be) to actually expand. If that is LTE, great. I would be happy with WiMax expansion (seriously, go read what I have said).

I want a kickstand, and I have one. Just like everyone else is allowed to have their opinions (including you), I have mine regarding the removal of the kickstand. I think it sucks. If it sucks bad enough on the 3D, guess what, I don;t need to go anywhere since I already have an EVO.

A recessed camera would be wonderful. JUST for that feature, I wouldn't pay an ETA and get virtually the same phone on a different network. Do I wish the camera was recessed especially with 2 giant cameras on the back of the 3D? Sure. Is it a deal breaker? Don;t know yet. THat is why there are discussions about the product.

Data limits - again, putting words in my mouth. I was and am simply musing that unlimited data is not going to be here to stay. I never said I wanted it to be limited. I said I don't see how truly unlimited data can go on forever (again, please do read what I have actually said on the matter).
 
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Looks like others have confirmed what I've discovered from my field test: you cannot run the Evo via USB power without the battery. Tested with my car charger as well as the stock wall A/C charger. It doesn't seem wired to support this.

That's thoroughly disappointing...one thing I wish phones had (pretty sure they don't) is a circuit bypass or something much along the lines of a floating charge for my motorcycle. The charger tests the charge of the battery and if it is full then it stops delivering power to it.
 
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