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So now HTC has 1.2 Ghz Dual Core Processors? Why'd they skimp on our TB?

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All right, I'll back off. Sorry if I annoyed anyone...I'm used to forums where people have thicker skin and the bar for acceptable comments is lower.

I apologize for my first comment being rude. Overall I do think that the OP and others in this thread are demonstrating a lack of understanding of technology. For example:



Just because the spec sheet says "1 GhZ, single core" doesn't mean the processor in the TB is the same one you could get a year ago. There are lots of things that processor manufacturers can do to the fundamental architecture to improve performance of a processor. The TB's proc is a new generation single-core processor that is much better than those that were released a year ago.

That being said, the Pyramid will probably trounce it in benchmarks...that's just the way things go. But it doesn't make the TB obsolete, and it doesn't mean HTC is ripping everyone off.


No Harm Done.

Nahhh, its not obsolete by any means at the moment. Listen if they give us the newer version of sense, and Gingerbread in a timely fashion all is forgivin. Right now the TB trounces any phone out there in the speed dept, that's all because of the quickness of 4G... However I have to believe a dual core with 4G would be pretty amazing. With of course at least a 1750mAh battery. This 1400 is for the birds.
 
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motorola has better battery life with all of their devices and the atrix has a bigger battery by far. GB isnt even truly written for dual core. I think 2.4 will be though


My Atrix was pretty nuts in the battery dept. I mean I was hardly charging it, had the brightness all the way up, lots of apps running, with very heavy use. Not even a dent. Honestly what ever MOTO has going on, its working. The stock Atrix battery was awesome. However, at&t's H+ was a joke.
 
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Most, I would assume, have no idea the differences between single core, dual core, Tegra, this giga hertz vs. that giga hertz. Devices are released based on the average consumer, like myself. Most users arent "techie" types like a lot of you guys here. Most text, play around online, and play Angry Birds, which the TB does well. Again, purely a non techie observation.
 
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The problem is, none of these HTC phones are on Verizon, so they're not really apples to apples.

If you want to switch to Sprint or T-Mobile, you can get a dual core HTC unit, but not on Verizon yet, so you still have the best Verizon HTC phone....

This.
For me T-Mobile has iffy 3g coverage.
AT&T is dropped call city....
Verizon just works.

The bolt is the best offering and after that Droid X with it's locked bootloader I was ready for a change back to HTC.
No complaints here..

If you spend your time chasing the latest and greatest you will never be happy.
HTC already has something even newer in development now.... can't sit here and wait for that, can we?
 
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Well that's why the TB should have came with Gingerbread! Problem solved.

However, the Atrix is rocking a dual core, and its running Froyo just fine?

The Atrix is running Froyo just fine, however it isn't optimized for it. So that extra core really isn't doing anything. Sure it might help a bit with battery life, but you really can't compare the Atrix to the TB with battery life. First the Atrix is on GSM which is better at battery life at the expense of signal strength, second the Atrix shiped with a bigger battery (this was an error on HTC's part).

I think that right now we are going to have to wait for Android 2.4 to truely see the benifits of a dual core device.
 
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I know that from an absolute standpoint, CPU heavy apps like N64 and PSX4Droid are half the speed for most games on the TB, compared to my gTablet, which is fast and smooth.

Atrix seems as fast as the Droid, but Blur is evil (IMO). Ditto for more demanding Flash sites.

Factor in the gTablet is pushing more pixels, it makes it even more impressive.
 
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Anyone remember how shitty XP 64 bit ran when nothing supported it? I back Wargasm on this one because hes right. OP, if you have the money to go buy one every week and dont make threads that are essentially you complaining you didnt get the exact thing you wanted. Wargasm was also right when he said you didnt understand technology.
 
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Don't let the carriers and OEM's suck you into the spec wars. They want you to think dual-core is better, the same way they want you to think more megapixels means a better camera. In real world daily usage there really isn't much difference. Really by the time there's a real NEED for dual-core the attic/bionic/pyramid will be old. I'd rather have the last generation of one type of tech than the first generation of a new tech; less bugs + more development.
 
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Don't let the carriers and OEM's suck you into the spec wars. They want you to think dual-core is better, the same way they want you to think more megapixels means a better camera. In real world daily usage there really isn't much difference.

^^^^This!!!

Something else to be aware of with all the specs out there. The most important one right now is RAM. My OG Droid was rooted and rom'd with CM7 (Gingerbread... yummmm). It was overclocked and running at 1Ghz, I loved the phone. However the problem that we all were having with the OG Droids was that the RAM was simply not good enough, GB is very agressive in killing tasks and with the RAM on the OG droid stuff just didn't work right. For instance CM7 had to actually make an option to keep SMS in memory because if you didn't and RAM got low (which it always did) you would not get text messages at all.

As long as you have plenty of RAM, and the TB has that, then you should be fine for a while.
 
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I would have to agree it is a little ridiculous with the amount of phones they come out with in a year. I JUST got my TB and now I wake up to find out a newer, hotter phone is on its way when I'm now locked into my TB? A bit disappointing, I would agree it makes me feel outdated. I know its business and the whole point is to keep pushing out newer, hotter phones but for a consumer like me it makes me angry that they are announcing this so quickly after the TB was released. If I and others had known we would have held out!
 
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and then three months after the Sensation is released, another phone will drop that makes that one "obsolete."

If you really want to avoid that feeling of "I got ripped off" then what you need to do is buy phones that are already a year old.

I was holding out for the TB because I could lock in an unlimited 4G plan on Verizon with it. It's a fantastic phone, but better phones are always just around the corner. Always. the 4G plan made it an excellent time to just jump in and get it over with.
 
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I would have to agree it is a little ridiculous with the amount of phones they come out with in a year. I JUST got my TB and now I wake up to find out a newer, hotter phone is on its way when I'm now locked into my TB? A bit disappointing, I would agree it makes me feel outdated. I know its business and the whole point is to keep pushing out newer, hotter phones but for a consumer like me it makes me angry that they are announcing this so quickly after the TB was released. If I and others had known we would have held out!

With how fast technology advances, you could get a new phone, wait three weeks and something newer and better will be out. Its just the nature of advancement.
 
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I see what the OP is saying, I also see what everyone else is saying. The fact is if HTC released the Pyramid/Sensation on Verizon a month after the TB I'd be BS and feel very, very slighted. That's not the case though. For me until HTC releases a "better" device then the TB on Big Red then I don't care what they release in all honesty. I won't switch from a carrier I've been with for 10 years (who's also the king of the hill) because a "newer, better device" was released somewhere else. IMO, that's stupidity.

OP, if you have the money to "buy a new phone every week", why do you really care enough to make this thread? That's not a shot, it's a legitimate question
 
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I see what the OP is saying, I also see what everyone else is saying. The fact is if HTC released the Pyramid/Sensation on Verizon a month after the TB I'd be BS and feel very, very slighted. That's not the case though. For me until HTC releases a "better" device then the TB on Big Red then I don't care what they release in all honesty. I won't switch from a carrier I've been with for 10 years (who's also the king of the hill) because a "newer, better device" was released somewhere else. IMO, that's stupidity.

This x 1000
 
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Anyone remember how shitty XP 64 bit ran when nothing supported it? I back Wargasm on this one because hes right. OP, if you have the money to go buy one every week and dont make threads that are essentially you complaining you didnt get the exact thing you wanted. Wargasm was also right when he said you didnt understand technology.


Essentially I have the right to say your comment has no bearing, and that you dont understand technology. Dont I? Am I saying u dont? No because I dont know you from a hole in a wall. Also don't say something I said in a jokingly fashion and take it out if context. However while it may be true, that's not the point here.

To be exact, I have the feeling a lot of newcomers are coming here with the assumption that putting people down, arguing, and going back and fourth is cool....like it is in other forums! Its really not! As u can see I went right back at Wargasm and said no harm done and its all good, anotherwords, let's keep it moving. Now u...A real voice of reason, has something great to add...no really nothing good to add. But you know what, It's all good with you too, no bearing, but all good.
 
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Essentially I have the right to say your comment has no bearing, and that you dont understand technology. Dont I? Am I saying u dont? No because I dont know you from a hole in a wall. Also don't say something I said in a jokingly fashion and take it out if context. However while it may be true, that's not the point here.

To be exact, I have the feeling a lot of newcomers are coming here with the assumption that putting people down, arguing, and going back and fourth is cool....like it is in other forums! Its really not! As u can see I went right back at Wargasm and said no harm done and its all good, anotherwords, let's keep it moving. Now u...A real voice of reason, has something great to add...no really nothing good to add. But you know what, It's all good with you too, no bearing, but all good.


Lol. that is all. haha.
 
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What I'm saying is this, and hopefully it puts some stuff to rest... Yes a lot of us chase technology, why not, its fun.

However, could HTC have givin us more 2011 type specs, yes they could have IMO. Could they have givin us some specs to make this VZW's flagship for about a year, Yes IMO they could have.....JUST LIKE SPRINT DID WITH THE EVO....I like what Sprint did, they waited a whole year to bring another flagship phone to the table....they really spun the mobile world upside down last year with the EVO, it was a game changer. And now a year later they're doing it with the EVO 3D. IMO that's the way to do it! That's all I'm saying. So yes we have the TB here, and while it is a great phone, I do think they could have pushed the envelope on the specs a little further. Like a better screen with better resolution, a better battery, a thiner device just like the one announced today, and yes a dual core so that it can last a whole year running with all these other dual core devices. So if some of you don't see my point, that fine. However, I applaud what Sprint did, they waited a whole year to really bring a better HTC device to the table. Good business IMO. Not even a whole month after the TB came to market, HTC goes out and announces what I consider to be real 2011 type phone specs, all in a beautiful package. Yes I think they could have gave us more...just my opinion.
 
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Guys can we please stop the back and forth? Sean76 has every right to his opinion, just like you do. I personally see both sides of this, I am content to use a phone that isn't the latest and gratest as long as it does what I need and does it well. The TB is that phone for ME, however others feel differently and that is their right.

This forum is for debate and discussion, you are not going to always agree with what people post here. However there is a way to disagree and be civil, and a way to disagree and be a douche. Please just be civil. Disagree with someone all you want, however don't attack the poster, attack the issue.

If you don't agree that the OPs opinion is correct, say so, however saying that the person "know's nothing about tech" is not proving any point at all and just leads to fighting and bad blood. We are all here because we want to discuss the phone.

Sean and I have had our disagreements, however we have always been civil about it with each other. We might not agree on everything, but at the end of the day we could go out buy each other a beer and probably have a good old time.

Again have your opinions, disagree all you want, but be civil about it.

:)
 
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Guys can we please stop the back and forth? Sean76 has every right to his opinion, just like you do. I personally see both sides of this, I am content to use a phone that isn't the latest and gratest as long as it does what I need and does it well. The TB is that phone for ME, however others feel differently and that is their right.

This forum is for debate and discussion, you are not going to always agree with what people post here. However there is a way to disagree and be civil, and a way to disagree and be a douche. Please just be civil. Disagree with someone all you want, however don't attack the poster, attack the issue.

If you don't agree that the OPs opinion is correct, say so, however saying that the person "know's nothing about tech" is not proving any point at all and just leads to fighting and bad blood. We are all here because we want to discuss the phone.

Sean and I have had our disagreements, however we have always been civil about it with each other. We might not agree on everything, but at the end of the day we could go out buy each other a beer and probably have a good old time.

Again have your opinions, disagree all you want, but be civil about it.

:)


Can I get some medicated California goodness instead of the beer? I dont drink, and Ill pack the first one. haha. Good point, my bad.
 
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