So now HTC has 1.2 Ghz Dual Core Processors? Why'd they skimp on our TB?

[ska.t73]

Can I get some medicated California goodness instead of the beer? I dont drink, and Ill pack the first one. haha. Good point, my bad.

LOL sure thing my man...

 

[sean76]

Guys can we please stop the back and forth? Sean76 has every right to his opinion, just like you do. I personally see both sides of this, I am content to use a phone that isn't the latest and gratest as long as it does what I need and does it well. The TB is that phone for ME, however others feel differently and that is their right.

This forum is for debate and discussion, you are not going to always agree with what people post here. However there is a way to disagree and be civil, and a way to disagree and be a douche. Please just be civil. Disagree with someone all you want, however don't attack the poster, attack the issue.

If you don't agree that the OPs opinion is correct, say so, however saying that the person "know's nothing about tech" is not proving any point at all and just leads to fighting and bad blood. We are all here because we want to discuss the phone.

Sean and I have had our disagreements, however we have always been civil about it with each other. We might not agree on everything, but at the end of the day we could go out buy each other a beer and probably have a good old time.

Again have your opinions, disagree all you want, but be civil about it.

My friggin man... So perfectly put!
Yes we need those beers...ASAP!

 

[WormDoes]

What I'm saying is this, and hopefully it puts some stuff to rest... Yes a lot of us chase technology, why not, its fun.

However, could HTC have givin us more 2011 type specs, yes they could have IMO. Could they have givin us some specs to make this VZW's flagship for about a year, Yes IMO they could have.....JUST LIKE SPRINT DID WITH THE EVO....I like what Sprint did, they waited a whole year to bring another flagship phone to the table....they really spun the mobile world upside down last year with the EVO, it was a game changer. And now a year later they're doing it with the EVO 3D. IMO that's the way to do it! That's all I'm saying. So yes we have the TB here, and while it is a great phone, I do think they could have pushed the envelope on the specs a little further. Like a better screen with better resolution, a better battery, a thiner device just like the one announced today, and yes a dual core so that it can last a whole year running with all these other dual core devices. So if some of you don't see my point, that fine. However, I applaud what Sprint did, they waited a whole year to really bring a better HTC device to the table. Good business IMO. Not even a whole month after the TB came to market, HTC goes out and announces what I consider to be real 2011 type phone specs, all in a beautiful package. Yes I think they could have gave us more...just my opinion.

Bro, the Sensation isn't coming to VZW, though. So technically VZW is doing exactly what Sprint did with the EVO until they release a new HTC device that's better than the TB.

 

[nkd]

I think people have a misunderstanding here. Thunderbolt has been the first LTE phone I think the testers had the phones over 6 months before it was actually launched, so the phone was suppose to highend if it would have been launched 2 months after being in testers hands. I think the phone is still plenty fast and has the fastest single core processor in it. The delays made it seem like the phone was outdated which sort of is the truth. Not only specs the evo 3d and Sensation 4g even has 10 times better desgin, they both look a lot cleaner and have newer body shell around it.

If thunderbolt was released on its original release date without hitting multiple delays it would have been a great phone at that time, I think you can blame verizon for making thunderbolt look like an outdated phone. They were busy inviting steve jobs to the iphone party for a few months and forgot about their LTE network and started improving their 3g network, lol.

 

[WormDoes]

If thunderbolt was released on its original release date without hitting multiple delays it would have been a great phone at that time.

It is still a great phone and I'd rather have it than the 3D and/or sensation on a crappy network.

 

[sean76]

Bro, the Sensation isn't coming to VZW, though. So technically VZW is doing exactly what Sprint did with the EVO until they release a new HTC device that's better than the TB.

Which will be by summer...I bet we see leaked pics of something by July. Rocking all the specs we just went over. Hey If the consumer buys it, these companies win essentially. Like I said I'm good with the TB for now! But when a new super phone comes to VZW by HTC soon, a lot if belly aching will start...and a lot of people are going to say...this is what the TB should have been to begin with...

A good example....RIM is getting set to bring a new BB Torch to market. It's the same exact device on the outside, for the exception of a new battery door, and I believe a bigger battery. However its rocking a sweet 1.2Ghz processor, a new screen with better resolution, and is said to have better build quality. Now in my eyes, that's what the Torch should have been in the first place. It only came out like what, 6 months ago? That's the road HTC is going down...releasing to many phones in a short period of time. We'll have a TB successor real soon, you'll see.

 

[jreed2560]

It is still a great phone and I'd rather have it than the 3D and/or sensation on a crappy network.

Again ... ^ this. I'm starting to think Worm know what he's talking about ! LOL

 

[nkd]

It is still a great phone and I'd rather have it than the 3D and/or sensation on a crappy network.

True, but I dont let a network forget the fails that were there when the thunderbolt was launched. Yes it is a great phone and yes I have it. Just because I have it and its on verizon doesn't make me forget the mess verizon made out of this phone.

In my honest opinion it depends on where you live. I live in california and sprint, t-mobile, att, verizon all have great service in almost all populated areas. Is LTE faster? Yes and hell yes, but it gets to a point where you can stream stuff at 3mb or 5mb vs. 25mb. Plus verizon already stated that LTE speeds will be 5-10mb download and 2-5 upload. It is only a matter of time where they start throttling speeds to those stated above when millions of LTE phones are sold.

We all have the right to our opinion and we all have the right to pick whatever service we wand and depending on the area we are in. Speeds are pretty fair on sprint as well as t-mobile, I am like the only guy among my co-workers who has verizon. Almost all my friends have att/sprint/t-mobile. Most of them have sprint though.

 

[mdeblaz]

My biggest "damnit" moment with the Sensation announcement is the fact that it has Sense 3.0... Wasn't Sense 2.0 on the TB supposed to be the latest and greatest rendition of SenseUI? That was short lived! It's software... not hardware... but the TB probably won't see Sense 3.0. HTC has never upgraded a device to the latest SenseUI. I hope they change there ways!

Not too worried about the dual core, but I agree 100% with sean76... it is ridiculous how quickly these companies are pumping out new devices. But it will catch up with them when the market is completely saturated and their devices are End-Of-Life within a month or 2. Inventory will crush them, unless they only plan on selling a handful of each device

 

[ska.t73]

My biggest "damnit" moment with the Sensation announcement is the fact that it has Sense 3.0... Wasn't Sense 2.0 on the TB supposed to be the latest and greatest rendition of SenseUI? That was short lived! It's software... not hardware... but the TB probably won't see Sense 3.0. HTC has never upgraded a device to the latest SenseUI. I hope they change there ways!

Not too worried about the dual core, but I agree 100% with sean76... it is ridiculous how quickly these companies are pumping out new devices. But it will catch up with them when the market is completely saturated and their devices are End-Of-Life within a month or 2. Inventory will crush them, unless they only plan on selling a handful of each device

From my understanding the TB will be getting Sense 3.0 when it gets Gingerbread.

 

[dylo22]

eh...I don't buy into the whole dual core hype. Other than games (which I don't play much of), there aren't many apps out there (I can't even think of one) that would require multithread processing power. I suppose if video/music editing ever get popular on phones then maybe, but right now I don't see the benefits.

I could use more ram though.

As long as the internet is fast, and I could multitask effieciently without the phone lagging, then it's all good. So far the TB does that quite well. And I don't see it having trouble doing that for at least the next year.

 

[mdeblaz]

From my understanding the TB will be getting Sense 3.0 when it gets Gingerbread.

Hope so

 

[nkd]

From my understanding the TB will be getting Sense 3.0 when it gets Gingerbread.

I think so too. I think it is more of a part of gingerbread then anything. I believe if HTC decides to update their devices to gingerbread and those they decide to upgrade will probably get sense 3.0. I think since thunderbolt will be the only flagship phone on verizon they might be forced to do so by verizon. Unless they have a dual core htc phone coming out in a few months from now, which I highly doubt.

 

[jreed2560]

From my understanding the TB will be getting Sense 3.0 when it gets Gingerbread.

Hell before that. If the official gb update is coming in June, I bet we see leaks and ports before then.

 

[howarmat]

Which will be by summer...I bet we see leaked pics of something by July. Rocking all the specs we just went over. Hey If the consumer buys it, these companies win essentially. Like I said I'm good with the TB for now! But when a new super phone comes to VZW by HTC soon, a lot if belly aching will start...and a lot of people are going to say...this is what the TB should have been to begin with...

A good example....RIM is getting set to bring a new BB Torch to market. It's the same exact device on the outside, for the exception of a new battery door, and I believe a bigger battery. However its rocking a sweet 1.2Ghz processor, a new screen with better resolution, and is said to have better build quality. Now in my eyes, that's what the Torch should have been in the first place. It only came out like what, 6 months ago? That's the road HTC is going down...releasing to many phones in a short period of time. We'll have a TB successor real soon, you'll see.

the torch was release on August 12th. exactly 8 months to the day. the new torch wont be here til about 1 year after.

VZW did the same with the Incredible. it was HTC flagship for about 1 year and now a new one, same as evo too on sprint. until there is a new HTC device on VZW the TB is still the flagship for VZW and it doesnt matter if HTC released a new phone on every other company until then

 

[sean76]

From my understanding the TB will be getting Sense 3.0 when it gets Gingerbread.

Yup..I've heard the same thing a few times...if that happens, I'll be pretty happy.

 

[redraider1]

Because the TB was supposed to come out months ago thats why. You do realize that they didnt just all of the sudden make the tb and release it phones takes months to design and what not.

 

[WormDoes]

From my understanding the TB will be getting Sense 3.0 when it gets Gingerbread.

I could be completely wrong, but if history repeats itself, the TB will not be getting 3.0 officially. HTC has never updated a version of sense after the phone was already released. That doesn't mean it won't be ported by one of the awesome developers, though

The only thing I really want out of it is that new video gallery

 

[WormDoes]

Because the TB was supposed to come out months ago thats why. You do realize that they didnt just all of the sudden make the tb and release it phones takes months to design and what not.

Right, but the average consumer doesn't know the TB was supposed to be released in November and probably doesn't care. By the time the Sensation hits stores a new device will be getting ready to take it's throne. It is what it is.

 

[stanlalee]

who cares. If you buy a laptop your lucky if you go 3 months without a faster processer. Like pc's its time to start buying whats good enough to suite your needs rather then having the latest greatest unless you dont mind buying a new phone every 6 months. I'm 100% certain I would be perfectly happy with an incredible, gen one nexus, facinate or droid X in regards to speed/processor performance. the ONLY reason I paid the extra $$ for the bolt was the 4G radio (which I dont even have 4G coverage here but I get around enough to care). It sure wasn't the next generation 1ghz snap dragon, that was just a bonus. I mean what exactly can I do with dual core 1.2ghz processor that I cant do now, some guys act like they are video editing for MGM with the phone. I dont care about the millisecond app opening differences and thats before rooting. when they add something I can actually use rather than just brag about higher quadrant scores I'll pay attention. so far the ONLY thing they've added significant since the droid X and Evo is a phone on a real 4G network. make a phone that performs like the original snapdragon 1ghz and last 3 days, that will would be real impressive to me.

 

[TxGoat]

It's not your dream phone, it's the one before that...

 

[UBRocked]

its time to start buying whats good enough to suite your needs rather then having the latest greatest unless you dont mind buying a new phone every 6 months.

Absolutely...positively...100% correct!

Look at the tablet lineup. The Galaxy S tablet is now $429.99 in retail stores, $349.99 online. The original 16GB iPad now costs $399.99 in retail stores, $349.99 online at several places.

Now, if you are in the market for a good tablet and don't want to penny pinch by going with a more "generic" brand tablet (where you have to add the Android market yourself for example) these are both excellent choices (keep the iHate to yourself please ).

Why are these devices priced so low? Cause there are bigger, badder, and more feature packed devices available. So are these tablets crap? Will they serve your needs? For most of us...yes!

Cell phones are the same way as of the Nexus one and Incredible launching last year. Both devices still can hold their own against the newer, bigger, badder devices coming out a year later.

4G...that's the big improvement Thunderbolt owners can hang their hat on. That functionality can't be added later via the Dev community. You can't add a 4G radio on a 3G device (excluding the Xoom LOL). Are we going to have the fastest device in a month? Probably not. Are YOU okay with that? That's the question everyone needs to ask themselves.

Some of you people (okay...me too ) are psycho tech-whores and will want the latest and greatest the minute it is available. Some of you people (okay...again...me too ) are pissed that Verizon is going to stop with the 1 year contract option because you want a new phone every 10 months...and we hate to have to wait that long! But we are not doing this out of necessity...we are doing this because we are F'ing nutz!

Having said that...I'm not ready to upgrade just yet

 

[zerocool79346]

You really need to go my man. How long have you been here? Whats the point of your post, that I don't get it. Ok seriously, I get it wise guy. You sound like a poster boy fan boy! You just got here and your already in danger of being viewed as a venom enriched trouble maker. It's not cool to down play your fellow members on these Forums. As for the phone, if your ok with rocking the TB for the next 2 years with a single core, that's absolutely fine with me, enjoy yourself. I have the funds to buy a new phone every week...lol. That is not the point, bragging rights is not the point. Cannibalism is the point. Releasing a new phone every 2/3 months is insane. Especially when the next one has all the things a 2011 type should! That's my point. Your post was uncool, it was directed hard at me...do I take offense? No I don't, I'll be here long after you leave my man. Either way, enjoy your day!

I'm sorry that you're thin skinned, but his post was nothing but truthful. The Bionic was dropping (supposedly) not more than a few months after the TB and you knew it was sporting a dual core. If dual core was that important to you, you should have held out. You didn't and now you're unhappy because a phone that was in development (due to LTE) longer than most other Android phones yet, didn't come with a cutting edge technology that was introduced well after the Tbolt's design had surpassed the point of no return. Why is releasing a phone every 2 to 3 months bad? I don't know about you, but if I was turning the profits HTC was, I wouldn't change a thing about the way I was innovating or my business model.

 

[rip03]

i agree wit u 100 percent sean76 as bad as i wanted the Tb i didnt want to be jealous of a phone far superior. i wanted to b completely satisfied with the one i had..so i held out on the Tb. i kinda blame verizon more then htc though..i said this b4 verizon seems more interested in motorola phones then htc...like when i bought the incredible...sprint came out with the evo right after..thunderbolt JUST came out now the evo 3d and sensation are coming on other carriers...verizon is going to hype the MOTOROLA bionic as their flagship phone and we prolly wont c a htc dual core till q3..but by then other carriers will have superiors one...VERIZON WILL NEVER OWN THE BEST HTC PHONE!! and i hate that..and now we got the iphone which is going to put htc even further down their list!!! if it wasnt for their service and the new lte i woulda been gone!!! because we certainly dont have the best phones in my opinion..

 

[ska.t73]

i agree wit u 100 percent sean76 as bad as i wanted the Tb i didnt want to be jealous of a phone far superior. i wanted to b completely satisfied with the one i had..so i held out on the Tb. i kinda blame verizon more then htc though..i said this b4 verizon seems more interested in motorola phones then htc...like when i bought the incredible...sprint came out with the evo right after..thunderbolt JUST came out now the evo 3d and sensation are coming on other carriers...verizon is going to hype the MOTOROLA bionic as their flagship phone and we prolly wont c a htc dual core till q3..but by then other carriers will have superiors one...VERIZON WILL NEVER OWN THE BEST HTC PHONE!! and i hate that..and now we got the iphone which is going to put htc even further down their list!!! if it wasnt for their service and the new lte i woulda been gone!!! because we certainly dont have the best phones in my opinion..

But Verizon has the iPhone... and the iPhone has the WiFis!!!!


(yes that was sarcasm... )