Nexus Moves 20,000 Units in Its First Week

[Mykpfsu]

Once Google changes its's pricing structure and gets the N1 out to more people (the 2nd part happens when verizon (#1 US) and Vodafone (#1 world outside of China) come online) we'll see much better sales numbers.
Right now they picked the smallest amount of people to sell to that can get the full use out of the N1.

 

[sooper_droid12]

From the sounds of Erick Tseng, it seems like even at the CES event, they were still in negotiations with VZW about price and plan structures. My impression from what he said made it sound like the phone would be sold unlocked with CDMA technology with VZW to offer their plans on TOP of that price. Because the question was specifically about subsidy and VZW may not be willing to subsidize. I'll go listen to the interview again, but I think that's the sounds of it.

EDIT: Okay, listened to it again. Erick Tseng said the details of the VZW haven't been firmed up yet. Joshua Topolsky (of Engadget) said he spoke with Verizon Wireless people at CES and they said it appears Google will sell the phone and VZW will sell the plan, unsubsidized. But again, nothing is confirmed yet.

 

[jblazea50]

Once Google changes its's pricing structure and gets the N1 out to more people (the 2nd part happens when verizon (#1 US) and Vodafone (#1 world outside of China) come online) we'll see much better sales numbers.
Right now they picked the smallest amount of people to sell to that can get the full use out of the N1.

i agree, i think the numbers will increase once it hits Verizon in the US

to me, it seems like a waste to sell it unlocked now since it can only be used fully under TMobile services...i'm guessing the sales would have been much more if the unlocked version supported AT&T (#2 US) and Telus and Rogers in Canada

 

[sooper_droid12]

What's weird is, Google is planning on having different SKU for the N1: Unlocked (T-Mo) [works on T-Mo 3G, but not at&t], unlocked (VZW) [works on VZW not Sprint], unlocked Vodaphone. So, basically, still carrier specific UNLESS, the VZW unlocked phone is one of their "world phone" formats (CDMA+GSM). That'd be worth picking up

 

[FreshPrince]

The average person is not going to spend $530 + tax on a phone that is impossible to get hands on with prior to purchase. That is asking way too much from the consumer. Google screwed up badly by not selling this phone through T-Mobile for that reason alone, or at least setting up a display in T-Mobile stores with a prompt to order it online through Google right then and there. Not everyone knows about the Android Forums where you can come online and get all of your questions answered from people who actually have the phone. It's too much of a secret to go with that high price tag. Ridiculous, really.

This phone wasn't marketed very well either. The majority of people I mention it to don't have a clue. The ones that do, only know about it because of the internet ads.

 

[FreshPrince]

Besides, I don't think many people are willing to pick up and leave Verizon or AT&T for T-Mobile's spotty 3G networks at that price tag, ESPECIALLY without a hands on experience up front. I also don't think many people would be willing to pay $530 for a phone that doesn't work on 3G (AT&T customers).

This phone WILL NOT SELL unless the price tag drops tremendously and/or it becomes available via T-Mobile retail outlets.

 

[sooper_droid12]

Well, that was the plan with an online store. It's supposed to cut down on overhead and money a carrier would spend on advertisements, etc. But the DROID that VZW spent $100 million in advertising costs $199 with contract and $599 without. So, you're telling me that it costs $70 per phone to get some TV ads and put the phone in an actual store? Here's what I got to say:

"Hey GOOGLE, spend the $70!"

 

[jblazea50]

Besides, I don't think many people are willing to pick up and leave Verizon or AT&T for T-Mobile's spotty 3G networks at that price tag, ESPECIALLY without a hands on experience up front. I also don't think many people would be willing to pay $530 for a phone that doesn't work on 3G (AT&T customers).

This phone WILL NOT SELL unless the price tag drops tremendously and/or it becomes available via T-Mobile retail outlets.

I agree. Google dropped the ball on this one. What's the point of unlocked phone if it ONLY fully functions under TMobile? No matter what Google says, the N1 is tied to TMobile, regardless if it can be bought unlocked.

What Google should have done is not have it tied to a specific carrier and instead just sell it unlocked that is compatible to all the major GSM carriers in North America (ATT, TMobile, Telus, Rogers). This way, the consumer would actually have the choice to which carrier they want to go with.

 

[sooper_droid12]

Remember back in the day when phones would be sold and marketed as "dual band" or tri-band" or even "quad band"? So much technology and they couldn't create a phone a couple of antennae in it. Not an engineer, so I don't even know if that's possible.

 

[mi_canuck]

funny how most people b!tch1ng in this thread DON'T EVEN OWN a Nexus One...

 

[sooper_droid12]

They don't need to own an N1. Like me for example, I just want to see Android succeed. But Google selling just 20,000 units in the first week isn't good news.

 

[mi_canuck]

it's ONE week... without any huge marketing campaign, online only sales, high price for some (non-contract price), or a subsidized price that is attached to a plan that isn't for everyone... and the biggest hurdle/mistake, was announcing that's it's "coming" on other networks ahead of time... Google should have waited a couple weeks to say "BTW - it's also coming to VZW and Vodafone".... I bet a TON of people held off for that reason alone...

The Nexus One's time will come... only a few weeks away from it hitting other networks (VZ & Voda)....

I'm not upset or worried about this so-called 20K sales number... for all we know, it's not even accurate...

Frankly, it's kind of refreshing to have a device that a million other people around me also have... ONE device will not define the fate of Android as a whole... Nexus One - even if not a sales success *right now* - is still a showcase device... AMOLED 800x480, Snapdragon, etc... Sure it will be joined with a slew of other devices have the same or more soon enough, but it's the first, and is promoting progress in the smartphone market... it's far from being an "iPhone" in terms of revolution... But honestly, all the hubub about the Nexus One right now is because people's EXPECTATIONS are just way too friggin' high... and there's no sign of the general public's change in attitude in that respect... Everyone is expecting another "iPhone" with every new smartphone hitting the market.... I mean c'mon.... get real...

 

[mi_canuck]

i agree, i think the numbers will increase once it hits Verizon in the US

to me, it seems like a waste to sell it unlocked now since it can only be used fully under TMobile services...i'm guessing the sales would have been much more if the unlocked version supported AT&T (#2 US) and Telus and Rogers in Canada

i can't imagine it won't eventually be offered to Bell, Telus or Rogers in Canada... or maybe WIND mobile (which also uses the AWS 1700 MHz band like T-Mo US)

 

[jblazea50]

i can't imagine it won't eventually be offered to Bell, Telus or Rogers in Canada... or maybe WIND mobile (which also uses the AWS 1700 MHz band like T-Mo US)

i believe WIND mobile is getting the N1

 

[mi_canuck]

What's weird is, Google is planning on having different SKU for the N1: Unlocked (T-Mo) [works on T-Mo 3G, but not at&t], unlocked (VZW) [works on VZW not Sprint], unlocked Vodaphone. So, basically, still carrier specific UNLESS, the VZW unlocked phone is one of their "world phone" formats (CDMA+GSM). That'd be worth picking up

if it was a "world phone" as vzw has done with the Tour, Storm and a few others... it would likely only support Europe's 2100 UMTS band... not 850/1900 or 1700.... at least that's how all their world phones have been up to now, knowing that US peeps can't use the UMTS 3G over here... it's meant to use on Vodafone (VZW's "partner") when traveling to Europe...

 

[oniongirl]

It meets the "unlocked" criteria in the UK. This phone will work on any network here, and in the rest of Europe. We have a thing called consistency I feel sorry for you guys that some of your phone choices are already made for you just because you are on a certain network that a phone doesn't support.

 

[Nathan Hale]

Add this guy to the list that will purchase the day it comes out on Verizon. T Mobile was not for me.

 

[Maxx]

If they had really wanted to shake the world I think they could've found a way to release it with multiple bands and multiple partners at launch...this just seems like a hack job and a tmobile exclusive, again.

That's their prerogative. But I would think if they truly wanted the Phone that is free from carrier restrictions they could have introduced a phone that was truly free of carrier restrictions...the N1 is not... Unfortunately I'm still married to AT&T so I have to pray that we get the Bravo.

 

[choffy21]

Buying the thing as an existing T-Mobile customer was a pain, and most people who were interested in Android most likely bought a Droid. Not surprised at all.

 

[AnerisDroid]

If I'm not mistaken, 20,000 units, at $500 a pop, is roughly $10million--in a week!--with hardly any overhead (ok maybe a million here, a million there for online advertising).

That aside, Google's approach from the beginning was never shock and awe. It was and still is more organic. Maybe Google is taking a playbook from the 1980s Apple v. PC playbook, where Apple remained mired in a closed platform and lost. Apple came out with a bang in 1980, but quickly lost ground to PCs based on MS-DOS. The first PCs got the job done, and some sold better than others (100,000 units in the first week versus 20,000?). Yet they made up the gap with overall volume and market saturation (think Hero, MT3G, G1, Moment, Eris, Droid... N1). Here we are 30 years later and what variety can you get from Apple? Yep, a closed source iPhone.

In my opinion, Google's goal with the N1 wasn't an iPhone killer, it was a revolution. And revolutions don't always change things overnight, or even over a week; sometimes, they takes months or years. 20,000 units is--in the grand scheme of things--just a number, but it is 20,000 more revolutionaries in Google's pocket (or vice versa?).

 

[androidtx]

I don't think google cares that much, they are not in the hardware business. They are simply using this phone to push other manufacturers forward. They don't want android and the devices to stagnate. I don't think the desire was ever to push a ton of these.

 

[XM_JDM]

T-Mobile employees arent even trained in the N1...heck the visits I have made to the store 2 didnt even know what it was. I am not suprised the number is so low. Google isnt throwing out this huge marketing plan like Verizon. AND I think that is a good thing. When the iPhone came out it was SUPER expensive and nobody had one because of how spendy. I was proud to carry around a unique and top of the line phone. Then they changed things up with the 3G and 3GS and now EVERYONE AND THEIR MOTHERS have one.

Now with an N1, I like that I am a rare bunch that carries one. I practically had to pry it from the T-Mobile rep that essentially begged me to play with it...And for what its worth I scored her phone number too...AWWWW YEA.

 

[Mykpfsu]

If I'm not mistaken, 20,000 units, at $500 a pop, is roughly $10million--in a week!--with hardly any overhead (ok maybe a million here, a million there for online advertising).

That aside, Google's approach from the beginning was never shock and awe. It was and still is more organic. Maybe Google is taking a playbook from the 1980s Apple v. PC playbook, where Apple remained mired in a closed platform and lost. Apple came out with a bang in 1980, but quickly lost ground to PCs based on MS-DOS. The first PCs got the job done, and some sold better than others (100,000 units in the first week versus 20,000?). Yet they made up the gap with overall volume and market saturation (think Hero, MT3G, G1, Moment, Eris, Droid... N1). Here we are 30 years later and what variety can you get from Apple? Yep, a closed source iPhone.

In my opinion, Google's goal with the N1 wasn't an iPhone killer, it was a revolution. And revolutions don't always change things overnight, or even over a week; sometimes, they takes months or years. 20,000 units is--in the grand scheme of things--just a number, but it is 20,000 more revolutionaries in Google's pocket (or vice versa?).

Actually revolutions do change things overnight. The end result may not be known overnight, but a revolution by its very nature changes the environment immediately.
Also Google isn't getting that whole $500. First off most are being sold subsidized. Second Google does not make the phone, HTC does. They get a good chunk of change from each sold.
Overhead would also include their new tech support people they've had to hire, their infrastructure, and so on and so forth.

 

[Mykpfsu]

I don't think google cares that much, they are not in the hardware business. They are simply using this phone to push other manufacturers forward. They don't want android and the devices to stagnate. I don't think the desire was ever to push a ton of these.

Except dont they need to move alot to convince the phone makers its truly a viable way to sell their phones?

 

[mi_canuck]

It meets the "unlocked" criteria in the UK. This phone will work on any network here, and in the rest of Europe. We have a thing called consistency I feel sorry for you guys that some of your phone choices are already made for you just because you are on a certain network that a phone doesn't support.

as far as "consistency" as you put it... lol... yeah, Europe puts us (here in NA) to shame... why can't we have true GLOBAL standards...

(at least it's nice to know that the Nexus One, not only does it have 1700 UMTS, but also 900/2100 UMTS... so if I did travel to Europe... i'd be all set

PS - good job on the digits! ... lol... at my local T-Mo store... they are all dogs anyways...