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The Battery Can't Honestly Be This Bad... What am I doing.

zigzackattack

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Okay, so I know the Eris battery life is supposed to suck, but should I really only be getting 5-6 hours of very minimal use out of it? I mean I don't have a million apps on it, I hardly browse the internet... I have done everything the battery optimization thread suggests. What else can possibly be wrong? I don't think a better battery would even fix the problem. Please help, because I feel like I can't even use my phone for texting any more... what is the purpose of my phone if I can't use it? Thanks.
 
Twice since I got my Eris I've had it consume the battery quite quickly. Both times it appeared as though the Exchange ActiveSync got stuck in the middle of a sync and just kept going-and-going--trying to sync but unable to complete. Both times the phone was warm to the touch. To fix I simply turned the phone off and back on again and all was well. It's been a couple week since the last incident.
 
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I've had my phone since just after Thanksgiving. I've got great battery life. Here's what I do:

GPS = off (unless I'm using maps)

WiFi = off (unless I'm at home)

Enable always-on mobile = off (under Mobile network settings - never had a problem with it like this)

I use chompSMS instead of the default messager. I do have Advanced Task Manager Free installed. But usually only use it if I've run several apps back-to-back-to-back to free up memory...it's not really a battery thing.

I usually take my phone off the charger at 7:30 AM. I use my phone for texting/talking all day long. Surf the web some. Check my email. I usually don't plug it back in until 9:00 or 10:00 at night. If I've had heavy use, then I'll plug it in around 6:00 PM.

I don't even think about battery life anymore. :)
 
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Okay, so I know the Eris battery life is supposed to suck, but should I really only be getting 5-6 hours of very minimal use out of it? I mean I don't have a million apps on it, I hardly browse the internet... I have done everything the battery optimization thread suggests. What else can possibly be wrong? I don't think a better battery would even fix the problem. Please help, because I feel like I can't even use my phone for texting any more... what is the purpose of my phone if I can't use it? Thanks.

If I were to rewrite the OP in that Battery Life Tips thread, I would:

- Omit Item #1. Things may have changed since it was written (2 OTA updates ago), but the native SMS app does not "Prevent the device from sleeping". That might have been the case originally, but it is certainly not true any longer.

- Change the order of items 2-5 according to which radios use more juice:

- Mobile Network (can be up to 2 Watts during transmit!)
- Wifi
- Bluetooth
- GPS

None of the suggestions in that post are particularly bad however.


If you have Wifi available, use that in preference to the Mobile Network (cellular radio).

Streaming music (or video) across the Mobile network is almost the same thing as being on a voice call continuously - and the battery will be drained in the same amount of time as the "Talk Time" - a little bit over 3 hours. Use WiFi for streaming music if you are going to do that on battery power only.

Remember that all smartphones are designed to operate as quickly as possible when you are "using them", and extremely slowly (low power) when you are not using them.

That means that if you add an application which either keeps the phone awake continuously, or initiates internet connections frequently, your phone will drain the battery rather quickly. This could be something as innocent as visiting a web page that does frequent refreshes or ad banner rotations - and then leaving your browser running... or installing an app that constantly talks to the internet even when the phone is supposed to be "sleeping".

Note that Verizon has no control over this at all - they don't quality control any of the applications available in the Market.

You can keep an eye on this by monitoring the "Awake Time"

Settings -> About phone -> Status -> (scroll to bottom of page)

If you make a note of the elapsed time, sleep the phone for (say) 10 minutes (=600 secs), and then look at the Awake Time after waking the phone up again - if you see the amount of Awake Time has increased by more than 60 seconds (10% of the elapsed time), then you probably have a problem of this nature.

The other thing you can do which is along these lines is to use the "Spare Parts" app, and view the "Battery history" or "Usage Statistics" to try and figure out which apps are keeping the phone awake.

If your awake time is reasonable, then the problem could be that the phone is sitting in a weak signal area, and is constantly transmitting to try and find new networks - or it could be a defective unit.

Whatever it is, you have to do a little bit of detective work to try and figure things out.

Good luck


eu1



PS I use my phone "moderately", and I never need to put it on the charger before the end of the day.
 
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How does a week signal hurt battery life?

Weak signals will cause the phone to search for better signals. On my previous Verizon phones, I would disable HDR (EVDO) and get at least 5x more battery life. This was because the phones would constantly switch from EVDO to 1X when they had a weak signal, i.e. in pocket indoors, basement, etc. This would cause them to be constantly searching for different towers/signals, which in turn drained the battery.
 
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How does a week signal hurt battery life?

Weak signals will cause the phone to search for better signals. On my previous Verizon phones, I would disable HDR (EVDO) and get at least 5x more battery life. This was because the phones would constantly switch from EVDO to 1X when they had a weak signal, i.e. in pocket indoors, basement, etc. This would cause them to be constantly searching for different towers/signals, which in turn drained the battery.

Exactly. Even if my phone stays in 3g but has no bars, my battery drains about 15% an hour (while sleeping & not being used). This occurs when I'm at my friends house consistently. If I place the phone near a window where it will pick up 1 -2 bars, then the battery is great. Fortunately, at home, I get great signal. It seems this phone is very sensitive to signal strength. I'm just glad I've figured out the cause of my fast battery drain, so I can turn off mobile network when I'm in weak areas.
 
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Weak signals will cause the phone to search for better signals. On my previous Verizon phones, I would disable HDR (EVDO) and get at least 5x more battery life. This was because the phones would constantly switch from EVDO to 1X when they had a weak signal, i.e. in pocket indoors, basement, etc. This would cause them to be constantly searching for different towers/signals, which in turn drained the battery.

Wow. That is interesting. My Eris frequently switches from 1x to 3g at home. Do you know if there is a way to control this?
 
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Exactly. Even if my phone stays in 3g but has no bars, my battery drains about 15% an hour (while sleeping & not being used). This occurs when I'm at my friends house consistently. If I place the phone near a window where it will pick up 1 -2 bars, then the battery is great. Fortunately, at home, I get great signal. It seems this phone is very sensitive to signal strength. I'm just glad I've figured out the cause of my fast battery drain, so I can turn off mobile network when I'm in weak areas.

So you have to turn the mobile network completely off?
 
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Wow. That is interesting. My Eris frequently switches from 1x to 3g at home. Do you know if there is a way to control this?

The update on 12/11 was supposed to fix this. It didn't fix mine, even though HTC & Verizon insists the problems are gone. I don't believe there is a manual way to control the switching. I just know to manually toggle my mobile network off if I'm in a weak 3g signal area.
 
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Wow. That is interesting. My Eris frequently switches from 1x to 3g at home. Do you know if there is a way to control this?


Very easy fix: If you don't need it on for a period of time (ex: don't need the internet, or apps to refresh themselves, or search for new mail), turn the mobile network off. To make this easier, go to a screen with room available, click the plus to add something, then HTC widgets, then settings.

From there you can add off/on switches for airplane mode, bluetooth, gps, mobile network and wifi.

I don't use bluetooth, so I keep all of the others on there and turn them all off/on when needed. My battery life is perfect.
 
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Very easy fix: If you don't need it on for a period of time (ex: don't need the internet, or apps to refresh themselves, or search for new mail), turn the mobile network off. To make this easier, go to a screen with room available, click the plus to add something, then HTC widgets, then settings.

From there you can add off/on switches for airplane mode, bluetooth, gps, mobile network and wifi.

I don't use bluetooth, so I keep all of the others on there and turn them all off/on when needed. My battery life is perfect.

I agree that this is about the only solution, however, the vast majority will say that this shouldn't have to be done. We bought smartphones for a reason. Why should you have to turn off mobile network, and turn it into a dumbphone, just to get sufficient battery life?
 
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If you still can't figure it out and you dont get great battery life just buy another one. YOu can find them online for like 10 bucks
Thats what I do so I never have to worry about running out and not being able to use my phone. The reason I do it is because I run pandora almost all day depending on what im doing. With 2 batteries I dont have anything to worry about.
 
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