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Operation Retrieve Bravo Info

Alright, here is my take on the processor discussion. Sure, 150 more megahertz would make it a little faster, I'm sure. But think of it this way... Why would they under clock the Snapdragon processor? Just to punish us all and be mean? No. If it's true that the processor is only going to be running at 850 megahertz, it's because it makes the battery life last SO much longer without really effecting the performance of the phone. I'd take much better battery performance ANY DAY over 150 megahertz so that the phone can run live background wallpapers that I'm never going to even be using anyways.

Worst comes to worst and you just HAVE to have a full 1ghz...I'm sure this phone will be rootable and you can root it and up the processor speed via software or something. Right? Or am I wrong on that one.

Regardless, this phone sounds great to me. As long as it runs Android 2.1 and Sense UI smooth as butter and has a 3.7 inch screen...well...count me in. That's all I was really wanting. I LOVED the Eris when I played with it a couple months ago or so, I just wanted a bigger and faster version of the same phone. It looks like that's what they're kinda gonna be giving us. I'm excited.
 
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what makes you think verizon wont release it at the same time as the nexus one? arent they going to release the palm pre plus and pixi plus at the same time they both look very similar i do understand one has more features then the other but very similar?

The Palms are different phones. They're very different form factors. Different screen sizes. One has wi-fi one does not.

The N1 and Bravo are reported to be very similar.
 
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Verizon could launch them both in the same time period because they have absolutely no stock in the N1. Who cares if they offer a similar phone and people buy it over the N1. They are still going to buy it and still going to use THEIR service. It would make much less sense for them to offer a phone through a 3rd party (google) and then 3 months later offer their own version of a very similar phone.

Aso someone already said with the Pre+ and Pixi+ they are now very similar phones. Pixi is still a little lighter of a version but not by as large of a margain.
 
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I've been following threads and news on the HTC Passion / Incredible / Bravo ...or whatever for a while. Like a lot of people, very interested in the specs and when it might launch on Verizon.

I would love to think it will be soon. Problem is Nexus One and the fact that N1 is being promoted and is actually promised "Spring 2010".

Unfortunately, the two phones seem way too similar for Verizon to put out at virtually the same time. Since N1 is actually out there with concrete confirmation that it is coming in Spring - i just can't see how Passion (et al) can be launched on Verizon at the same time. Not enough has leaked to make me think it will be early February - then you have spring - which puts it at June at the earliest.

If anything, this is coming before the N1, not June. June makes little sense. You don't pick up the Nexus One with a 1GHz processor, give up several thousand subs, then expect to have much success with a slower processor. Nope. I see the Incredible as a late Feb, early Mar release. Figure the Nexus One for April, probably late.
 
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I've been following threads and news on the HTC Passion / Incredible / Bravo ...or whatever for a while. Like a lot of people, very interested in the specs and when it might launch on Verizon.

I would love to think it will be soon. Problem is Nexus One and the fact that N1 is being promoted and is actually promised "Spring 2010".

Unfortunately, the two phones seem way too similar for Verizon to put out at virtually the same time. Since N1 is actually out there with concrete confirmation that it is coming in Spring - i just can't see how Passion (et al) can be launched on Verizon at the same time. Not enough has leaked to make me think it will be early February - then you have spring - which puts it at June at the earliest.

This has been what I've been thinking all along as well. I know we're trying to stay positive, but it's something to consider. Now, my other thought is that the Nexus One technically will no longer be a "new phone" persay when it's set to launch on Verizon (spring). Meaning that possibly, the Incredible / Bravo / Passion / whatever could be released within the same time period as Verizon's new bad ass phone, while the Nexus One will be another very good performance option, but not new in the sense that it has already been out on T-Mobile. Could be either way, or something totally different.

That CoolIris photo viewer looks pretty cool, apparently they're supporting the Nexus One as they have a picture of it running the program on the main site. Back to the Incredible though... I'm in agreement with those not liking the 850 mhz idea. I'm not even super tech savvy, just know a little bit, but I tend to get hung up on specs sometimes, and if I know there's a better processor option available (Nexus One in this case), I'll probably end up going that direction. I would have to see side by side comparisons proving the Incredible performed nearly as good or better than the Nexus if I was to change my mind. We'll see though, obviously all of this is still unofficial and we don't know the final specs, not to mention the leaked roadmap did say 1ghz.

I still very much like the idea of more easy support available for a phone that is actually in the stores. This is why I'm hoping Verizon and Google will agree to allow the stores to offer support and carry the N1, not just Google. If they don't though, this could be another factor that plays into my decision if both phones are available and both very similar. The thing with people saying phones running Sense take forever to get Android Upgrades also is something I'm considering. Many things to think about with the Multi-Touch debacle, support or lack there of, processor speeds, overall operating system differences with Sense, etc...
 
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Verizon could launch them both in the same time period because they have absolutely no stock in the N1. Who cares if they offer a similar phone and people buy it over the N1. They are still going to buy it and still going to use THEIR service. It would make much less sense for them to offer a phone through a 3rd party (google) and then 3 months later offer their own version of a very similar phone.

Aso someone already said with the Pre+ and Pixi+ they are now very similar phones. Pixi is still a little lighter of a version but not by as large of a margain.


yes exactly, i agree. and i actually think it would be a good thing to do. look at all the criticism on how google is undercutting there competition selling there own phone that is faster then what everyone else has to date. google is saying there not trying to do that. just providing another means to buy the phones cross different providers. verizon selling the incredible and google, letting them sell it at the same time as the nexus one proves that they are not out to under cut the cell companies. you think google will be pissed if someone is buying another phone using there software? the company is still getting its name out there no matter what still a win
 
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ROFL, oh god here we go again with Nash and Newsradio...

Verizon could launch them both in the same time period because they have absolutely no stock in the N1. Who cares if they offer a similar phone and people buy it over the N1. They are still going to buy it and still going to use THEIR service. It would make much less sense for them to offer a phone through a 3rd party (google) and then 3 months later offer their own version of a very similar phone.

I agree with this as well, seems like a logical idea that I didn't think about. That is if Google doesn't agree to let Verizon do in store support, which it doesn't sound like they intend to with anyone.

Edit - What I find funny is that Google is actually being so stubborn about this being their own phone that only they can sell that they are letting it hurt them significantly. Sales are low, people are totally pissed about the lack of support, and other competition is rapidly approaching. These guys need to let it go and give it to the stores.
 
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No chance they launch together. Verizon has to order phones and carry inventory for the Incredible. The Nexus One is a niche phone that (under the current model) they won't have to support or stock. From a revenue standpoint, a Nexus One sub will have zero overhead, so subs will be gravy. Launching the Incredible at the same time or after the Nexus One will undercut their ability to move inventory on the books.
 
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I have been following for a while but wanted to register and share this info.

I am an IT manager for a large University in the SE. I emailed our Verizon rep about the Passion and asked " Have you heard of a new HTC Passion or Indredible heading to Verizon soon?". His reply was:
Yes, the passion is scheduled for Q1 at the moment, but is subject to change

I then asked about the N1 to make sure he didnt think they were the same. "Do you know when the N1 will be heading to Verizon?" to which he replied:
I have heard end of Q1 beginning of Q2 for a launch date.

I have since emailed him telling him I am torn between a Droid and waiting for the Passion and asked if he could send specs. We shall see.

Anyhoo, thanks for all the entertaining and informative posts. Take it for what its worth but that is what I have received.
 
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