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Do you own a SuperPad III?


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Hi mikerb and shane and guys, thanks for the links for the firmware and tools, which I have them all already, but still no one solution/combination success enough to make my tablet alive. I'm pretty sure that this superpad III is a total fake, because it's only has one microsd slot, just like FT3, but from the dmesg message, it's X210, not X220.

Recently after a full 1 week of searching and doing some tweaking, I've managed to boot froyo from sdcard/microsd slot. I've posted about that here.

My problem is now it seems that the NAND flash got corrupt/bad blocks, so I can't do flash_image on it (as well as direct cat or dd, although it raise no error message), so maybe you guys now where I can download the busybox precompiled with mtd-utils??? I;ve tried so many busyboxes but unfortunately they don't include mtd-utils applet. I've tried cross-compile mtd-utils to run on arm, but still unluck, says something of segmentation fault and maybe needed to be cross compiled with uclibc for this tablet..... however, at least it can live

Another problem is random freeze and hang when I run froyo from SDCARD, think it's an sdcard issue/quality/speed. I've tried hacking memory params in init.rc and increase sdcard read_ahead, but seems no significant effect....

Still finding another solution though....

Addendum:
The positive about running from SDCARD, I can try so many firmware releases, say it's tim's or sol's or official one, just extract the system.tar(.gz) into the system partition (mine is mmcblk0p2), and you're ready to go.... I feel that tim4a is the fastest among others, but unfortunately I've got infamous 90 degrees rotating screen/g-sensor problem.....
 
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Hi mikerb and shane and guys, thanks for the links for the firmware and tools, which I have them all already, but still no one solution/combination success enough to make my tablet alive. I'm pretty sure that this superpad III is a total fake, because it's only has one microsd slot, just like FT3, but from the dmesg message, it's X210, not X220.

Recently after a full 1 week of searching and doing some tweaking, I've managed to boot froyo from sdcard/microsd slot. I've posted about that here.

My problem is now it seems that the NAND flash got corrupt/bad blocks, so I can't do flash_image on it (as well as direct cat or dd, although it raise no error message), so maybe you guys now where I can download the busybox precompiled with mtd-utils??? I;ve tried so many busyboxes but unfortunately they don't include mtd-utils applet. I've tried cross-compile mtd-utils to run on arm, but still unluck, says something of segmentation fault and maybe needed to be cross compiled with uclibc for this tablet..... however, at least it can live

Another problem is random freeze and hang when I run froyo from SDCARD, think it's an sdcard issue/quality/speed. I've tried hacking memory params in init.rc and increase sdcard read_ahead, but seems no significant effect....

Still finding another solution though....

That's no good. In the FlyTouch 3's the internal storage is just an SD card, so you could open it up and replace it with e.g. 16gb (i've done and it works). But not sure about the FlyTouch 2's i think there an onboard NAND chip.

Also TCH (the chill hacker) recompiled busybox 1.18 on his latest ROM, i think from memory but not sure if it's got mtd-utils. Might be worth D/Lin the ROM and extracting busybox out of it (Link to TCH's latest ROM) Are you flashing through ADB?
 
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That's no good. In the FlyTouch 3's the internal storage is just an SD card, so you could open it up and replace it with e.g. 16gb (i've done and it works). But not sure about the FlyTouch 2's i think there an onboard NAND chip.

Also TCH (the chill hacker) recompiled busybox 1.18 on his latest ROM, i think from memory but not sure if it's got mtd-utils. Are you flashing through ADB?
Yes, I also in doubt whether the NAND is really nand flash or just something written on top of internal sdcard (like todays linux livecd, we can run the image from HD or USB). If it really an sdcard, so it's easy to replace and burn some firmware on it, maybe sometime I need to open the case...

For TCH, I'll check about it, still downloading...

I'm flashing from IUW and bootable SDCARD, and then connect to the tablet from adb, then doing busybox ash for better shell, and direct form there I do some testing on flash_image (included on rom), and dd/cat system.img, as well as mounting /dev/block/mtdblock3 to /somewhere and copying the whole /system structure on /somewhere.

When I reboot and back to froyo, I'm sure the file I've copied before are still there, but anyway, when I edit the ramdisk.img, adjust the init.rc to mount /dev/block/mtdblock3 as /system instead of mounting sdcard, I've got ANDROID_, it means the system (init) can't find the /system. So, my only test remaining is doing flash_erase or flash_eraseall, but still not found the right files yet.

Last option is: opening the case, or recompiling with uclibc, or waiting the promised firmware from my distributor....
 
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Yes, I also in doubt whether the NAND is really nand flash or just something written on top of internal sdcard (like todays linux livecd, we can run the image from HD or USB). If it really an sdcard, so it's easy to replace and burn some firmware on it, maybe sometime I need to open the case...

For TCH, I'll check about it, still downloading...

I'm flashing from IUW and bootable SDCARD, and then connect to the tablet from adb, then doing busybox ash for better shell, and direct form there I do some testing on flash_image (included on rom), and dd/cat system.img, as well as mounting /dev/block/mtdblock3 to /somewhere and copying the whole /system structure on /somewhere.

When I reboot and back to froyo, I'm sure the file I've copied before are still there, but anyway, when I edit the ramdisk.img, adjust the init.rc to mount /dev/block/mtdblock3 as /system instead of mounting sdcard, I've got ANDROID_, it means the system (init) can't find the /system. So, my only test remaining is doing flash_erase or flash_eraseall, but still not found the right files yet.

Last option is: opening the case, or recompiling with uclibc, or waiting the promised firmware from my distributor....

Have you checked the mount points in SmaRkieS ramdisk? On the FT3's it's (init.rc):

mount ext3 /dev/block/mmcblk0p2 /system
mount ext3 /dev/block/mmcblk0p3 /data
mount ext3 /dev/block/mmcblk0p5 /cache
mount vfat /dev/block/mmcblk0p6 /local
 
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Have you checked the mount points in SmaRkieS ramdisk? On the FT3's it's (init.rc):

mount ext3 /dev/block/mmcblk0p2 /system
mount ext3 /dev/block/mmcblk0p3 /data
mount ext3 /dev/block/mmcblk0p5 /cache
mount vfat /dev/block/mmcblk0p6 /local

Of course, actually it's running ok on sdcard, while init.rc pointing into /dev/block/mtdblock3 (nand partition for /system folder) give me android _ stuck, so it's something about mtdblock itself, thus needed to be erased
 
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Just received my FlyTouch 3 or what whatever they are calling it?..Can't figure out what I actually have? It only has 1 SD Card, so I believe its the latest one available?...

Here's my situation - I just pulled it out the box and want to backup everything. I logged onto the Android Market using my Google Account. Was atttempting to download Titanuim backup so I could backup the system files and software which came pre-installed. For what ever reason I'm receive the message, there is no account associated with this device?...What or where can I go to download Titanium backup, so I can download Tims updates?...Also, I want to know if I'm following the right procedure for this updates to Tims Roms.

1- Download Titanium backup ( once someone tells me where to download )
2- Backup all System Files and Pre-installed software
a. thes backup files will be sent to the SD Card, right?
3- Download Tims Roms- which version am I to download?
a. is there anything I might need to be made aware of prior to updating?
- current software is Android Version 2.2, Kernal Version 2.6.32.9 Build
Number FFRG85B , Model Number; Disco.
4- How do I get the current weather to indicate local time verses Shenzhan,
China?...I read how to do that somewhere, but can't seem to find it.
5- Any other advice would be well appreciated.......
 
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I logged onto the Android Market using my Google Account. Was atttempting to download Titanuim backup so I could backup the system files and software which came pre-installed. For what ever reason I'm receive the message, there is no account associated with this device?...

1- Download Titanium backup ( once someone tells me where to download )
2- Backup all System Files and Pre-installed software
a. thes backup files will be sent to the SD Card, right?
3- Download Tims Roms- which version am I to download?
a. is there anything I might need to be made aware of prior to updating?
4- How do I get the current weather to indicate local time verses Shenzhan,
China?

You need to go to Android Market from your pad and login, this will associate your device with your Market account.

1. Titanium backup can be downloaded here: http://www.mydroid.info/android-apps/titanium-backup-pro-root-v3-8-1-1/ Your device needs to be rooted to use Titanium Backup.
2. If you only just got the tablet and it's new, i wouldn't worry about backing up the data that's on there. I'd just install Tims ROM.
2a. If you did choose to use titanium backup to backup system apps and data then yes they'd be stored on the SD card.
3. I've found 3a very stable and bjellys has just install 4d and likes it. Probably go with 4d2 as Tim has made lot's of improvements. Link here: Index of /Android/Flytouch3/Tim-V4
3a. Not really, if you follow the update procedure you'll be fine and if you get stuck just post here and i'm sure someone will be able to help.
4. Follow the instructions below and see if it helps (outdoors):
GPS
If your gps is stuck in Shangai or not updating, you need to reset the agps data with the gps status software
in the menu => tool => Manage A-GPS state
do reset + download

Plug in your gps antenna, and let it run until you get as many fixes as possible.
(it should reset when it grabs 3-4+ fixes, please note that the first time it might take up to 30 minutes - 1 hour to catch all the fixes, be patient)

Cheers,
Shane
 
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I have upgraded my flytouch3 tablet to tim4d2. After that i'm getting issues with 1. Wifi and seconly launcher pro error

1. Wifi is not connecting keeps going scanning then it says it cannot scan for wireless network.

2. When trying to change launcher pro icon it says " Sorry! The application LauncherPro (process android.process.acore) has stopped unexpectedly. Please try again.
Have rebooted the device but still the same.

Any work around?
 
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Has anyone made a direct comparison of the actual hardware internals of these Superpad III's vs the Ibex/Apad Flytouch 3?

Also, I am curious as to comparisons of the superpad III clones that report "Disco" vs "SAWEE10" under model number. Are these two separate clone manufacturers?

Seems many with the SAWEE10 model number have more issues than those of us with "Disco".

I suppose eventually some adventurous tech savvy soul will buy one of each and rip them apart to see what's inside.

I'm running Tims 4d2 with no issues (well no diff than the issues that legit ibex FT3 owners have).
4d2 had CIFS enabled so you can stream from a PC using cifs manager. Battery charging issues have been reported but they seem to be related to the battery stats file. (Use battery calibration app and cycle battery to fix).

Once they release a kernal that allows governing of the cpu we should see better battery life and more power when needed. From what I understand, currently the existing kernal locks the cpu at 800mhz. No higher, no lower. Scaling will definitley help battery life.


Noobs to android should keep in mind that there have been issues with just about every phone/rom released and it takes time for the bugs to get ironed out. I expect the same for the various tablets. Helps if you are used to custom roms from other android devices. Titanium backup app is a headache reducer - if used correctly.

For example, I just put gingerbread (android 2.3) on my HTC magic 3a and spent half the day trying to sort out the quirks...

Also, you are not limited to the stock launcher, or whatever launcher is on your custom rom. Search "launcher" in the market. Some launchers have way more bling but really imo are better for faster processors like cortex. I've found Zeam to be fairly simple, and it seems so far to be less buggy and less of a hog. You can install more than one and use home switcher app to change between them if you want an easy way to switch.

One last thing about android apps. Some apps run certain processes in the background even when you think they are not. In fact some will do this from install even though you have never "ran" the app. Keep this in mind if you suddenly find your device getting slow or buggy. Oh, and having a ton of widgets running on your home screens will definitely hog resources.
 
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I have upgraded my flytouch3 tablet to tim4d2. After that i'm getting issues with 1. Wifi and seconly launcher pro error

1. Wifi is not connecting keeps going scanning then it says it cannot scan for wireless network.

2. When trying to change launcher pro icon it says " Sorry! The application LauncherPro (process android.process.acore) has stopped unexpectedly. Please try again.
Have rebooted the device but still the same.

Any work around?

Perhaps try and reflash with Tim3a instead fo 4d2. I hadn't any problems with 3a.
 
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Also, I am curious as to comparisons of the superpad III clones that report "Disco" vs "SAWEE10" under model number. Are these two separate clone manufacturers?

Seems many with the SAWEE10 model number have more issues than those of us with "Disco".

For example, I just put gingerbread (android 2.3) on my HTC magic 3a and spent half the day trying to sort out the quirks...

The SAWEE10 model is a FlyTouch 2 not a FlyTouch 3. This is why the problems that people are experiencing with the SAWEE10's are under the assumption that they're FlyTouch 3's. This is why when they try to load for example a custom ROM on their device that's meant for the FlyTouch 3 it doesn't work (2 files on SD card and boot, update starts). The process is a lot different for FlyTouch 2s. The FlyTouch 3 model name is Wwe10. The real model name is in the build.prop file under system. If you're wondering what model you have download something from Android Market and then have a look in your Market account settings and see what the Market has detected your device as, it won't be Disco.

You should try Cyanogenmod for your HTC alot of added functionality. Unfortunately the HTC magic isn't supported anymore and you can only get version 6 for it.
HTC Magic | CyanogenMod
 
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The SAWEE10 model is a FlyTouch 2 not a FlyTouch 3. This is why the problems that people are experiencing with the SAWEE10's are under the assumption that they're FlyTouch 3's. This is why when they try to load for example a custom ROM on their device that's meant for the FlyTouch 3 it doesn't work (2 files on SD card and boot, update starts). The process is a lot different for FlyTouch 2s. The FlyTouch 3 model name is Wwe10. The real model name is in the build.prop file under system. If you're wondering what model you have download something from Android Market and then have a look in your Market account settings and see what the Market has detected your device as, it won't be Disco.

You should try Cyanogenmod for your HTC alot of added functionality. Unfortunately the HTC magic isn't supported anymore and you can only get version 6 for it.
HTC Magic | CyanogenMod

Mine shows up as Disco when on the desktop market website.

Yeah, I had a version of CM on my HTC but I upgraded to gingerbread based off the sapphire. I miss the added tools CM had.
 
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Thanks to Shane, Compubyte and also yamahaddude9 for the picture posted. I ordered my Flytouch3 from eBay a week ago. The box arrived exactly the same as what yamahaddude9's post - "SuperPad III". After open the box, there is no information about the manufacture, supporting web-site... I try to find the vendor in eBay, but the link is gone!!!I am worried a bit. However, this tablet can still boot and run. After put in a microSD card, the anger bird can installed an run, but no sound. (well, I never play anger bird before so I thought that's normal at that time :)) Look like the hardware is good. But it is slow and will hang very often between Apps. The wireless will drop very often, too. A C- machine to me...
I am so glade I found this forum. Thanks a million to Shane. I read thru the posts and decide to flash ROM 4d2. The flash is very simple and fast. Actually it will shutdown the tablet after the firmware update. After reboot, this tablet is totally different. Response very well, and I don't see the crash anymore. Seems like from C- to A now. The 4d2 installed lots of useful Apps also -- Dolphin Browsers, Apk Manager, You Tube, Messenger,... One major problem I see it the G-sensor becomes very sensitive. The tablet will rotate back and forth once I move my sitting position. But I think I can go with it. So far so good with 4d2. BTW, the status for 4d2 after flash.
model # DISCO10
android version 2.2-20110503
kernel version 2.6.32.9 zld@dtlinuxserver #47
build number FRF85B
 
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Hi, I have just made a purchase and awaiting delivery, from eBay u.k of a tablet claiming to be a flytouch 3 / Superpad 2. it was approx 2 weeks old, with protective film on front and back.The box is labeled "Superpad 2" on top left of lid, and on the sides. The device is 512mb/16GB. I've tried to look this actual unit up but cannot find it anywhere. It is 2.2. Does anybody know anything about this, does it run ok. will it/should it be upgraded? I have attached a similar image, Thanks

Model: disco
Android version: Android2.2-20110325
Baseband: Unknown
Kernal 2.6.32.9 zjd@dlinuxserver #28
Build: FRF85B

seems sluggish, wont let me DL angry birds via appworld or from website. nor anything else "starting download" only free apps show on market.


Android-2-2-SuperPad-2_2918_3.jpg
 
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Yes, I flashed 4d3 yesterday. It is similiar to 4d2. Don't see much improvement. One problem: For both the "LOCAL" and "SD1" tab selections, the "My Pad" Apk will show the external SD card (SD1) info only. Looks like a bug there.
BTW, in 4d2, my LOCAL tab is showing 12GB Total. Deos it mean I have 16GB internal SD? I am not sure this info is correct. However, I am sure 4d3 is not right. The "LOCAL" tab is just a mirror of "SD1"
 
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LoL yes i got banned and posts were being deleted too from that same unammed forum. Here it's all about freedom of speech and no judgemental opinions.

Tim3a is great!

The charger issue... Mine charging pin came loose and fell out a few weeks after use. So i bought a new one from JayCar here in Australia. Has Australian plug and works a treat! Also came with lot's of other adapter fittings. The charger is positive polarity (+ on center pin). The charger i bought is here: 15 Watt Switchmode Slim High Power 5VDC 3.0A - Jaycar Electronics but i'm sure you could get something similar from RadioShack if in the US. The adapter is 5V 3Amp (3000mA), so should charge a little quicker than the 2500mA adapters. Also those cheap plastic international adapters you get with the clones are also no good.

Forgot to mention the pin size for the chargers are 0.7mm ID 2.35mm OD.

Cheers.

HEY thanks a million. YOU just saved me all kinds of research on replacing my AC ADAPTER lol ..
 
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I've manage to get Tim4d2 running and seems all good.

I found that i can't copy any file (from my pc) into my 16gb micro sd card after inserting into SP3. anyone got this issue? The error was the card is lock.

So to work around i've to put the micro sd into the SP3 then copy those file into a thumbdrive/portable hdd then plug to SP3 and do a transfer. So kind of tedious.
 
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