My HTC HERO Made MY Day!! :)

[chaos67731]

So I work in some what of a normal office, where about 1/2 are Iphone users and about 1/2 are android users.

So I was out on break and when I came back in, the room was talking about flash on there phones. My boss being a big Apple fan boy jumps rite to talking shit about my Hero. . The droid users jump on my Hero about the lower specs. And by this point both sides have tried to load this site on there phones with no luck at all.

Instant No Button! Star Wars funnies FTW!


Well.

I pull out my Hero and look at the 3GS and Droid and just smile as it works with out a problem.

This might not be the spot for it, But with people calling crap about not having 2.0/2.1 and talking about the Hero being a little slow. I just wanted to say as being a new Android user (Moved over from Palm OS) I am loving this phone.

 

[acp]

Nice

I still don't quite understand why we have multi-touch capabilities, considering the fact everyone is always talking about it being under an Apple copyright

 

[tatonka_Hero]

Nice

I still don't quite understand why we have multi-touch capabilities, considering the fact everyone is always talking about it being under an Apple copyright

shh, don't tell anyone.

I'm not so sure that overall multi-touch is under copyright, since HP has a multi-touch computer out, and Windows 7 is actually designed for use with multi-touch...so there's quite a bit of multi-touch stuff in the works I think. Granted, multi-touch computers could be a whole different ballgame, no idea.

 

[chaos67731]

I have had people say both things to me, as far as the multi-touch thing goes.
I sure do wish others had it on there androids so everyone would stop saying "thats like an Iphone" But none the less I do enjoy having that one thing others dont have.

 

[romeosidvicious]

Multi-touch is not under copyright it's under patent and there is a huge difference. Apple's patent should have never been granted at all. There is prior work and on top of that it is an obvious innovation both of which should disqualify a patent from being granted. Furthermore it should be overturned easily after Bilski. And the patent is very specific about what is covered and it boils down to specific gestures.

Apple asked Google not to enable multi-touch and Google agreed. This was likely not due to any strength involved in their patent but rather that Google didn't want to risk their relationship with Apple at the time. Since they have now released the N1, directly competing with Apple, I suspect we will see multi-touch being enabled from the outset on Android devices. Apple likely won't fight too hard because if they do then they fight Google which is one of the few companies who has the war chest, both money and patents, to win against Apple. Apple could find themselves with their patent(s) invalidated and no stick to shake at the smaller guys which is really all they have right now. Look at the Palm Pre it is multi-touch and uses gestures that are close enough to Apple's patent that it probably is actually infringing but Apple hasn't sued them. We don't have multi-touch because Google agreed when Apple asked them not to which was likely a business decision and not based on a very weak patent. Since Apple is playing games with not letting Voice on the iPhone and Google is releasing phones directly, I expect this will change.

 

[acp]

thank you for clarifying

 

[breakerfall]

what does the OP have to do with multi-touch?
it looks like he's saying that a flash control on a website works on his Hero.

I think the important question here is: How is Flash working on his phone?

 

[lldsandsll]

we have limited flash capabilities. some works, some doesnt. better than none.

 

[breakerfall]

oh, hmph.

iiiiiididnotknowthat...

 

[romeosidvicious]

oh, hmph.

iiiiiididnotknowthat...

We have flash-lite. Shockwave content won't work. Nothing coded for Flash 10 will work. But some flash < 9 will work and when it does it works well. It's a lite version but it's something.

 

[bradb21]

Multi-touch is not under copyright it's under patent and there is a huge difference. Apple's patent should have never been granted at all. There is prior work and on top of that it is an obvious innovation both of which should disqualify a patent from being granted. Furthermore it should be overturned easily after Bilski. And the patent is very specific about what is covered and it boils down to specific gestures.

Apple asked Google not to enable multi-touch and Google agreed. This was likely not due to any strength involved in their patent but rather that Google didn't want to risk their relationship with Apple at the time. Since they have now released the N1, directly competing with Apple, I suspect we will see multi-touch being enabled from the outset on Android devices. Apple likely won't fight too hard because if they do then they fight Google which is one of the few companies who has the war chest, both money and patents, to win against Apple. Apple could find themselves with their patent(s) invalidated and no stick to shake at the smaller guys which is really all they have right now. Look at the Palm Pre it is multi-touch and uses gestures that are close enough to Apple's patent that it probably is actually infringing but Apple hasn't sued them. We don't have multi-touch because Google agreed when Apple asked them not to which was likely a business decision and not based on a very weak patent. Since Apple is playing games with not letting Voice on the iPhone and Google is releasing phones directly, I expect this will change.

I agree, and in addition to what you said Palm has quite a large patent portfolio themselves. I think companies like Apple need to weigh their options if they decide to go after Palm, then Palm could decide to go after Apple on a Palm owned patent.

 

[SamuraiBigEd]

Just tried it, won't work on my Hero! All I get is the little blue Lego block with the question mark on the sides.

 

[Thefoodman52]

Same thing on my Moment, sorry for being off on that. I just saw the words 'flash' and I had to check it out. =S

At least I'm not a fan-boy promoting it, I'm giving compilable information on whether or not I could do it. Don't flame me. T.T

 

[PrO1210]

worked for me...

 

[stamets303]

worked for me

 

[durandetto]

Worked for me too.

 

[chaos67731]

Just tried it, won't work on my Hero! All I get is the little blue Lego block with the question mark on the sides.

When you go to the site are you using the built in browser or a 3rd party browser?

 

[chaos67731]

Multi-touch is not under copyright it's under patent and there is a huge difference. Apple's patent should have never been granted at all. There is prior work and on top of that it is an obvious innovation both of which should disqualify a patent from being granted. Furthermore it should be overturned easily after Bilski. And the patent is very specific about what is covered and it boils down to specific gestures.

Apple asked Google not to enable multi-touch and Google agreed. This was likely not due to any strength involved in their patent but rather that Google didn't want to risk their relationship with Apple at the time. Since they have now released the N1, directly competing with Apple, I suspect we will see multi-touch being enabled from the outset on Android devices. Apple likely won't fight too hard because if they do then they fight Google which is one of the few companies who has the war chest, both money and patents, to win against Apple. Apple could find themselves with their patent(s) invalidated and no stick to shake at the smaller guys which is really all they have right now. Look at the Palm Pre it is multi-touch and uses gestures that are close enough to Apple's patent that it probably is actually infringing but Apple hasn't sued them. We don't have multi-touch because Google agreed when Apple asked them not to which was likely a business decision and not based on a very weak patent. Since Apple is playing games with not letting Voice on the iPhone and Google is releasing phones directly, I expect this will change.

Thank you for helping clear that up a little! I have never be able to get someone to tell me the ins and outs as to why more android phones are not shipped with MT.

 

[chaos67731]

I seen a video showing the Hero playing some flash games from a website. If anyone has a link to two to some games that would be great! You know, So the rest of us could have one more reason to show off our phones.

 

[chaos67731]

You can view flash videos on failblog.org in the browser!!

Not the best but kind of cool.

 

[SamuraiBigEd]

It was Dolphin, which I have quit using, Flash works on the stock browser.