H+ in UK

[hits98]

I have noticed today that i am getting H+ instead of the normal 3g or H signal, I thought H+ was some superfast 4g connection that wasn't coming to the UK for ages. I am on three and live in the Maidstone area.

 

[Blakers]

I'm not an expert, but as far as I can remember H+ is an hsdpa connection. Its supposedly a bit faster than 3g.

I think 4g is different, you need a different aerial for it (an LTE aerial) and it supports some really fast data speeds.... and is currently not in the UK.
Someone will probably be able to correct me on this if its wrong but thats the situation as i remember it.

 

[heshanj]

as far as i know, H+ is HSPA+, and thats a 4G technology.. just H (no +) is HSDPA and its a bit faster than 3G.. but i too am not very sure about this so someone could correct me too

 

[steslatt]

I was under the impression that H+ is faster than H but is not 4G. I have heard of some people getting H+ in some areas of the UK.

 

[Ih4teKies]

H+ is just 3.5G not 4G
Sorry but hate to admit it but U.K everything is slow...so slow. We don't like change but that's gotta change lookin at what's been happening for the last 31 days!!!

 

[ziggyball]

I noticed this too, when going through slough on the train yesterday...
I think Three are rolling out H+ network as they've started selling an H+ dongle...
Hopefully phones will see the benefit too and there is no caps/shaping put in place...
HSPDA+ is not 4G but some AT&T in USA is calling it 4G anyway!

To be honest, reliable 1Mb speed would be fanstastic and more than adaquate at the moment, rather than patchy 'up to' 21Mb...

 

[steslatt]

I noticed this too, when going through slough on the train yesterday...
I think Three are rolling out H+ network as they've started selling an H+ dongle...
Hopefully phones will see the benefit too and there is no caps/shaping put in place...
HSPDA+ is not 4G but some AT&T in USA is calling it 4G anyway!

To be honest, reliable 1Mb speed would be fanstastic and more than adaquate at the moment, rather than patchy 'up to' 21Mb...

Thats good news I'm on 3 but im pretty sure they traffic shape?

 

[heshanj]

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HSPDA+ is not 4G but some AT&T in USA is calling it 4G anyway!

ah thats wat i read then. apologies for any misinformation so if thats the case, 4G isnt really available, is it?

 

[Antakar]

ah thats wat i read then. apologies for any misinformation so if thats the case, 4G isnt really available, is it?

Ok, here you go, about 4G:

BBC News - Ofcom launches next-generation 4G consultation

And here is good one about 3G in UK:

BBC News - 3G mobile data network crowd-sourcing map by BBC News

And here is the App, if you would like to take a part in measurements:

https://market.android.com/details?id=com.epitiro.uk3g&feature=search_result

 

[planetf1]

WHen I travelled to a few UK ports/local areas on a recent cruise I seemed to get HSPA+ pretty much everywhere.

In the UK I've had it near the port or gym (forget which) in southampton, but most areas are hspa only

I'm on voda

 

[VulturePenguin]

I live in Essex and am also on three and would say that I am on H+ more than I'm on 3g throughout the day.

 

[MJC UK]

Im on Orange in West Yorks, and barely get 3G+

 

[carajp]

Im on Orange in West Yorks, and barely get 3G+

I'm in the centre of Milton Keynes, a fairly large urban area now ....and yet, snap. Around 25% of the time I'm on 2g

 

[Leevis]

I get H+ loads here in London

 

[lotus49]

H+ is supposed to support up to 21MBps so I wouldn't call that slow.

 

[steslatt]

My H+ is just the same speed as H.

 

[Riche101]

I get H+ briefly in Manchester with T mobile

 

[MJC UK]

H+ is supposed to support up to 21MBps so I wouldn't call that slow.

Thats faster than my home broadband : -/

 

[smileman]

I get H+ loads here in London

ditto

 

[lotus49]

My H+ is just the same speed as H.

Does your modem/phone actually support H+?

I had a Huawei E585 but I recently upgraded it to the E586 which supports H+ unlike the E585. As far as I know (but I'll freely admit I don't know very far on this) the SGS2 doesn't support H+.

 

[jspx1]

Does your modem/phone actually support H+?

I had a Huawei E585 but I recently upgraded it to the E586 which supports H+ unlike the E585. As far as I know (but I'll freely admit I don't know very far on this) the SGS2 doesn't support H+.

The Galaxy S2 does support H+. I have a Huawei E367 which also supports H+ and in the 3connect software it does actually says H+ although I've not been able to get H+ on the GS2 yet. I think it's a software & network roll out issue, I use the dongle in a TP-Link 3g router too and it only gets recognised as 3g on the router although the speeds are usually pretty good in the 5-7 mb download speed bracket (sometimes 9-11) and 1.6 mb up (sometimes 4-5 mb up).
3 are working to upgrade their network to H+, it looks like the 3connect software is ready for H+ but the towers in my area haven't been fully upgraded yet, I think the software is recognising H+ but the speed on the local network hasn't been turned up yet, although I believe the upgrade should be complete by spring 2012.

 

[mecanician]

Both me and my wife got H+ in Cowes on the Isle of wight this afternoon
I have a SGS2 (tmobile) and my wife has a Desire (3 network)
Unfortunately We live in Newport and are lucky if I get 3g!!

 

[matttye]

Not even the LTE/Wimax networks in the US meet the 4G spec at the moment, but they are generally regarded as 4G networks.

HSPA = 3.5g, HSPA+ = 3.75g. Some people think of HSPA+ as 4G because in real world use, they get similar speeds from both the HSPA+ networks and the LTE/Wimax networks.