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This may be a question that's been answered somewhere else, but when you say you're trading in your phones, do you mean you bought the previous phone within 30 days and are doing an exchange within the 30 day return window, or are you selling your old phone and buying a new one? I got a Nexus S 4G in May and was thinking of switching to the Epic Touch 4G, and if there's some method I can use to not have to buy the new phone wholly unsubsidized I'd be happy to know it.

30 day returns have been done away with on this phone and all future phones. The new agreement you have to sign is 14 days now.
 
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The Epic Touch has been a pleasure to use so far. It makes the Evo 3d, with its heat, poor screen, and battery issues, look and feel like a joke.

I don't know about that. I've been playing with the Epic Touch for the last week at work (work for Sprint) and I'm keeping my EVO 3D for now. The Epic Touch is a great phone, but I don't think it's better.
 
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Not to be belligerent or a troll, but I don't see how the 3vo can stand up to this phone in any way. Granted, I've never owned one, but what features does it sport that can be considered better than the GS2 series?
None that I can think of. Unless you're a 3D enthusiast or just can't let go of Sense UI, there is no earthly reason to go with 3vo over Epic Touch. You can cling to the "Samsung is terrible with updates while HTC is awesome" thing, but that has no bearing on the two units as they are.

Also, is I think the poster's user name kind of says it all.
 
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None that I can think of. Unless you're a 3D enthusiast or just can't let go of Sense UI, there is no earthly reason to go with 3vo over Epic Touch. You can cling to the "Samsung is terrible with updates while HTC is awesome" thing, but that has no bearing on the two units as they are.

Also, is I think the poster's user name kind of says it all.

Well as a Sprint Technician I can tell you that getting those software patches out quickly is critical. I've been waiting for more than a year for some critical glitches to be patched on the original Samsung Epic 4G. When there's a problem with HTC, they have an update within a week. Aside from that from a technician's standpoint the build quality on the EVO 3D is also better.

If you don't want a custom ROM Sense 3.0 is far better than Touchwiz. The 3D is nice, not a gimmick, but not a necessity either. After using both of them the EVO 3D feels smoother, the reception is better, it comes with a memory card, has higher resolution display, and as far as I know the EVO 3D is the only current phone on Sprint that will work with some of the Network Vision upgrades that are coming.
 
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Not to be belligerent or a troll, but I don't see how the 3vo can stand up to this phone in any way. Granted, I've never owned one, but what features does it sport that can be considered better than the GS2 series?


Not one! The 3d is inferior in every way. Oh wait, there is one feature. Hand warmer! It gets hot just sitting in your pocket. In fact its hot most of the time. Good for those cold winter days.
 
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Some good points there. Like everything else, it comes down to preference. I don't like any of the UIs enough not to replace them with a launcher. I hate the whole 3D push these days. I talked the Sprint store into a free 2GB card with my GS2, plus I knew I'd have to buy a 32GB card with any phone I bought. The resolution is a moot point, you can't see pixels on the GS2 unless you press your eyeballs to the screen. Aside from being plastic, the GS2 feels absolutely perfect in my hands.

Reception is very important for some though. I haven't looked into Network Vision at all.

I'm not discounting your preferences, just expressing my own opinions on the same subjects.
 
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In my experience, the 3D's reception is no better than the Epic Touch. In fact, it's the same. Plus the 3D has to come with a memory card. It only comes with 1gb of storage as opposed to the Epic Touch's 16GB of storage space. I sold my 3D and picked up the Epic Touch and haven't looked back.
 
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Well as a Sprint Technician I can tell you that getting those software patches out quickly is critical. I've been waiting for more than a year for some critical glitches to be patched on the original Samsung Epic 4G. When there's a problem with HTC, they have an update within a week. Aside from that from a technician's standpoint the build quality on the EVO 3D is also better.

If you don't want a custom ROM Sense 3.0 is far better than Touchwiz. The 3D is nice, not a gimmick, but not a necessity either. After using both of them the EVO 3D feels smoother, the reception is better, it comes with a memory card, has higher resolution display, and as far as I know the EVO 3D is the only current phone on Sprint that will work with some of the Network Vision upgrades that are coming.


It comes with a memory card because it only came with 4gb preinstalled memory instead of 16gb memory that was partitioned throughout the device (such as the photon and e4gt) which makes for a much smoother experience. Not knocking either phone, but the dual core inside the e4gt pretty much smashes anything out at the current moment. It doesn't overheat like the evo3d does. True that the e3d and the photon are qhd, evo screen looks nice and so does photon if you can get past the penTile. With that being said, e4gt touch's screen smashes both in terms of how vibrant and rich it is. Nothing is bland or grainy (like the photon), and doesn't wash out all gray like in daylight (like e3d). And the funny thing is, some people are complaining about how vibrant the e4gt screen is. With that being said, i wonder if they watch bland tv's at home...chances are probably not! Speaker phone is definitely louder than e3d, And just shy of the photon. And data is noticeably faster on the e4gt. Pages load faster even on 3g (from my experience at least, I've had all three phones). And the touchwiz version on this phone is definitely more user friendly.
 
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It comes with a memory card because it only came with 4gb preinstalled memory instead of 16gb memory that was partitioned throughout the device (such as the photon and e4gt) which makes for a much smoother experience. Not knocking either phone, but the dual core inside the e4gt pretty much smashes anything out at the current moment. It doesn't overheat like the evo3d does. True that the e3d and the photon are qhd, evo screen looks nice and so does photon if you can get past the penTile. With that being said, e4gt touch's screen smashes both in terms of how vibrant and rich it is. Nothing is bland or grainy (like the photon), and doesn't wash out all gray like in daylight (like e3d). And the funny thing is, some people are complaining about how vibrant the e4gt screen is. With that being said, i wonder if they watch bland tv's at home...chances are probably not! Speaker phone is definitely louder than e3d, And just shy of the photon. And data is noticeably faster on the e4gt. Pages load faster even on 3g (from my experience at least, I've had all three phones). And the touchwiz version on this phone is definitely more user friendly.

The speaker phone is definitely the biggest drawback of the EVO 3D. Mine has only ever overheated one time and for some reason I think it was because it was stuck in roaming trying to find signal. It didn't transition out of roaming properly. Reboot and it never did it again.

As far as data speeds, I am experiencing better on the EVO 3D. Remember, I get to test both side by side at the same time since I work at Sprint. :)

Don't get me wrong, the SGS2 is a phenomenal phone, I was about to drop my EVO 3D for it, but after some extensive testing, I'm sticking with the EVO 3D because I think it is slightly better.

Both are better than the Photon, IMO.
 
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Are you sure with regards to the network vision upgrade ? I presume you are talking about 3g rev b; what has so far been posted in the rumor mill is that epic touch will support rev b; as well as the evo3d; but have not heard about the photon.

Well as a Sprint Technician I can tell you that getting those software patches out quickly is critical. I've been waiting for more than a year for some critical glitches to be patched on the original Samsung Epic 4G. When there's a problem with HTC, they have an update within a week. Aside from that from a technician's standpoint the build quality on the EVO 3D is also better.

If you don't want a custom ROM Sense 3.0 is far better than Touchwiz. The 3D is nice, not a gimmick, but not a necessity either. After using both of them the EVO 3D feels smoother, the reception is better, it comes with a memory card, has higher resolution display, and as far as I know the EVO 3D is the only current phone on Sprint that will work with some of the Network Vision upgrades that are coming.
 
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After using both of them the EVO 3D feels smoother, the reception is better, it comes with a memory card, has higher resolution display, and as far as I know the EVO 3D is the only current phone on Sprint that will work with some of the Network Vision upgrades that are coming.
Your first two points are contradictory to almost all of the reviews and posts I've read. The Evo 3D may come with a memory card, but it's only 8GB with zero internal compared to the 12GB internal the Epic Touch gives you. So I'd say that's a point for Samsung right there. The higher resolution is nice, but as screens go, most people prefer the SAMOLED Plus screen.

Why is Sprint performing network upgrades that only affect a single phone? I'm assuming that these upgrades will affect all phones -- otherwise, how is it a network upgrade?
 
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Your first two points are contradictory to almost all of the reviews and posts I've read.

Side by side testing has shown me different.

Why is Sprint performing network upgrades that only affect a single phone? I'm assuming that these upgrades will affect all phones -- otherwise, how is it a network upgrade?

ESMR as far as I know has only passed FCC on the EVO 3D. Future devices will certainly have it.
 
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Not to be belligerent or a troll, but I don't see how the 3vo can stand up to this phone in any way. Granted, I've never owned one, but what features does it sport that can be considered better than the GS2 series?

If we sampled a thousand people and gave them both the evo 3d and et4g, I am confident over 90% would prefer the samsung gsii et4g. It is in a class of its own. It is smoother than the evo 3d, ESPECIALLY in the browser department, the speaker is louder, the processor and graphics are much more potent, which they should be since using a a best in class cortex a9 chip vs the dated a8 in the evo 3d, the screen is vibrant with blacks as deep as the heart of a perfect black body/black hole - the evo 3d screen, even with higher resolution looks washed out by comparison. What do you think most people would prefer looking at? A beautiful screen, or a washed out screen that will let them see an extra line in their gmail? Now ideally people want both (enter the prime), but if they had to choose, looking at both I think most would break towards the samoled+


It is lighter and thinner, has a MUCH better camera, the evo 3d sacrificed higher quality still images and video for the gimmick of 3d, the gs ii variants focused on the more important things, like image quality and video quality.

The gsii variants, for 5+ months now are still far and away the best phones on the planet, and nothing to date, including the evo 3d comes close as a total package.


The thing that got me most about the gs ii class phones were the browser tests though, every android phone released to date aside from the gsii variants are stuttery messes when moving around basic web pages, especially larger sites like engadget. This included newer dual core android phones release AFTER the gs ii, was it a case of simply having weaker processors? crappier coding for that backing store mentioned in the anandtech review?

I don't know, all I know is that Galaxy S II class phones are a new baseline that all other phones from here on out will be measured against, and that is where the likes of the evo 3d fail so terribly hard. Same with the driod bionic. The photon came closest I think, but still not quite there.


And nothing lasts forever, the gsii will be knocked off its perch atop the smartphone world fairly soon I expect, but it is the german bismarck battleship of smart phones of this age (read year in smart phones)
 
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Side by side testing has shown me different.

ESMR as far as I know has only passed FCC on the EVO 3D. Future devices will certainly have it.

Evo3d: You are certainly entitled to your opinion, but really, you don't see me going over to the Evo3D forum and enlightening my forum brethren with my opinions on how much better the Epic 4G Touch is than the Evo3D.

I would get just about the same response you are getting from this forum.
 
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Notice any signal difference between the MoPho and E4GT ?


Like Sycobob said, reception is a little better on the MoPho, which seems to have the best cell reception for any phone out right now. I don't use my phone for calls much, a few quick ones a day, and use it mainly for texting and data. The 3G and 4G speeds seem to be slightly slower on the ET4G for me, but nothing to write home about, and this is only when in areas where Sprint service is lacking in general.


P.S. - Nice trolling evolution3d
 
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I'm not trolling, just providing my "First Impressions" of the phone as this thread is titled. The EVO 3D is not "my" phone. Since I work for Sprint I get to try out a lot of phones.

@Sammael, the browser is really a lame comparison as any knowledgeable user won't be using the stock browser anyways. With Dolphin the EVO 3D loads pages just as quickly as the SGS2. Also the camera is not any better. They seem to be about the same in image quality. The EVO 3D did not sacrifice image quality for 3D. The human eye will not be able to distinguish any difference in resolution between 8MP and 5MP. The color, lighting, focus, etc are what matters and they seem to be about equal.
 
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I'm not trying to discourage anyone from the SGS2. I think it's a great phone. I think that the EVO3D and the SGS2 are about equal and anything that separates them is mostly a matter of opinion other than the reception. I am simply stating I'm not getting one yet. To say that the SGS2 is in a completely "different class" than the EVO 3D is just plain silly though.
 
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