Getting BBCiPlayer working?

[AaronL]

EDIT: I should add it's using the G1

Hello all! Sorry if this is a re-post! New to the forums!

In the UK, we have a service called the BBCiPlayer. This gives us in the UK the opportunity to watch BBC programmes that we've missed previously and even watch live TV.
Well, in the past, G1 users have been unable to use the iPlayer, mainly due to the lack of Flash.

But, BBC have recently released a BETA Mobile BBCiPlayer but I'm having trouble with it.

It's here (www.bbc.co.uk/mobile/live); when I try and watch a programme, it yes I need Wifi enabled. So, I Wifi the phone up but then I get a 'incompatable file format' when I try and access the programme.

Anyone have any idea?

thanks!
Aaron

 

[deadite66]

got a bit further using steel, it links to a sdp file with rtsp links.

v=0
o=- 1225982584 1225982584 IN IP4 212.58.251.101
s=BBC One
i=RealSystem Broadcast Distribution
c=IN IP4 0.0.0.0
t=0 0
a=SdpplinVersion:1610641560
a=StreamCount:integer;2
a=control:rtsp://212.58.251.101:554/bbc-rbs/rmlive-3gp/rtpencoder/bbc1_h264.sdp?service_id=bbc_one_london
a=AvgBitRate:integer;102000
a=LiveStream:integer;1
a=recvonly
m=video 0 RTP/AVP 96
b=AS:70
b=RR:2624
b=RS:875
a=control:rtsp://212.58.251.101:554/bbc-rbs/rmlive-3gp/rtpencoder/bbc1_h264.sdp/streamid=0
a=range:npt=0-
a=length:npt=0
a=rtpmap:96 H264/90000
a=fmtp:96 packetization-mode=1;profile-level-id=42C00B;sprop-parameter-sets=Z0LAC5Z0Fm2AiAAAcIAAFfkFowEUBE73vg8IhGo=,aN48gA==
a=mimetype:string;"video/H264"
a=ForceRTP:integer;1
a=AvgBitRate:integer;70000
a=Preroll:integer;1000
a=ASMRuleBook:string;"RTCPRule=0,TimestampDelivery=True,Marker=0,AverageBandwidth=70000;RTCPRule=1,TimestampDelivery=True,Marker=1;"
a=PayloadWirePacket:string;"rtp"
a=cliprect:0, 0, 96, 176
m=audio 0 RTP/AVP 97
b=AS:32
b=RR:1199
b=RS:400
a=control:rtsp://212.58.251.101:554/bbc-rbs/rmlive-3gp/rtpencoder/bbc1_h264.sdp/streamid=1
a=range:npt=0-
a=length:npt=0
a=rtpmap:97 MP4A-LATM/32000
a=fmtp:97 profile-level-id=15; object=2; cpresent=0; config=400025203fc0;
a=mimetype:string;"audio/MP4A-LATM"
a=ForceRTP:integer;1
a=AvgBitRate:integer;32000
a=ASMRuleBook:string;"RTCPRule=0,TimestampDelivery=True,Marker=0,AverageBandwidth=32000;RTCPRule=1,TimestampDelivery=True,Marker=1;"
a=PayloadWirePacket:string;"rtp"

bbc already support mp4 (which the iphone uses) they could simply add support if they wanted.

edit
tried opening the links with meridian but the format was not supported.

 

[slave1]

EDIT: I should add it's using the G1

Hello all! Sorry if this is a re-post! New to the forums!

In the UK, we have a service called the BBCiPlayer. This gives us in the UK the opportunity to watch BBC programmes that we've missed previously and even watch live TV.
Well, in the past, G1 users have been unable to use the iPlayer, mainly due to the lack of Flash.

But, BBC have recently released a BETA Mobile BBCiPlayer but I'm having trouble with it.

It's here (www.bbc.co.uk/mobile/live); when I try and watch a programme, it yes I need Wifi enabled. So, I Wifi the phone up but then I get a 'incompatable file format' when I try and access the programme.

Anyone have any idea?

thanks!
Aaron

If you click on the help link it tells you that the G1 isn't supported at the moment.

 

[cronk]

it'll come eventually.

I changed the user agent setting in steel to report as the iphone, and although I got in to lots of menu choices for programmes, I think I was just seeing flash placeholders - nothing to press to make it play.

can't wait tho!

This is on the Magic btw.

 

[slave1]

It aint supported on iPhone either

 

[AaronL]

It aint supported on iPhone either

Wrong i'm afraid. The BBC iPlayer supports iPhone AND iPod Touch.

I know it says in the help that the G1 isnt supported, I was just wondering if an App Media Player could get it working.

 

[slave1]

Wrong i'm afraid. The BBC iPlayer supports iPhone AND iPod Touch.

I know it says in the help that the G1 isnt supported, I was just wondering if an App Media Player could get it working.

Not trying to be pedantic but:
What kind of phone do I need?

BBC LiveTV/Radio works on a range of WiFi-enabled handsets including most WiFi-enabled HTC, Motorola, Samsung and Sony Ericsson handsets. It

 

[AaronL]

Not trying to be pedantic but:
What kind of phone do I need?

BBC LiveTV/Radio works on a range of WiFi-enabled handsets including most WiFi-enabled HTC, Motorola, Samsung and Sony Ericsson handsets. It’s also available on the Nokia 5800 and N96, and the Palm Treo 750.
Note that Live TV/Radio won’t work on an iPhone as this device doesn’t support streaming of live channels using general web technologies.
Currently, it’s not accessible using the G1, as this doesn’t have a default media player, but we’re investigating ways to make this work.
At present, Live TV/Radio isn't supported for the Nokia N95. We're working hard to make this available and hope to have a solution very soon.

They can't use the 'mobile' version as they are lucky enough to use the full version!

BBC iPlayer - Where to get BBC iPlayer

 

[cronk]

There's two things here.

The original link was for the "live" tv thing.

I was looking at iplayer - I assumed the original link wasn't correct.

I can't see android having to wait much longer - whilst I'm not sure anyone one phone is going to "kill" iphone, I think it's gonna be THE phone OS for years to come. Windows Mobile is gonna have to really raise it's game and fast.

Anyway - back on topic. Saw an iphone playing iplayer yesterday and the quality was excellent. It's not the "full" version as you get this message about wifi needing to be on, so it's checking something.

Whilst I'm very excited by this - I can't think I'd be using it apart from pose value. I don't have access to wifi all over the place - and if I'm at home I have these lovely things called a) the TV and b) My Computer.

oh and fyi for non-uk peeps - iplayer is not available outside the UK.

 

[slave1]

There's an app in the marked called beebplayer (or similar). You may want to give that the once over.

 

[cronk]

There's an app in the marked called beebplayer (or similar). You may want to give that the once over.

oooh!

Bugger getting errors. It's very early beta tho... will reboot phone and try again.

 

[johnsto]

Bugger getting errors. It's very early beta tho... will reboot phone and try again.

Think I've tracked this bug down, but could you run Log Collector and send me the log? My e-mail address is in BeebPlayer's market entry.

Thanks!

 

[cronk]

All working - ta for the fix Dave.

EVERYONE should download this app now. But be careful - it lets you play with 3G (unlike iphone which is wifi only), you'll be going over your fair use limit with vodadone in no time watching these on 3g.

Dave - do you know what size these streamed vids are in MB?

 

[AaronL]

Hi,

Wheres the app? I can't find it on the market .

thanks,
aaron

 

[deadite66]

from his twitter feed its 1.5 (cupcake) only.

 

[cronk]

Hi,

Wheres the app? I can't find it on the market .

thanks,
aaron

Think it's a uk only app too.

 

[johnsto]

Correct, it's 1.5 only, as 1.5 included various h264 fixes required to decode the iPlayer streams. Also must be in the UK as the iPlayer streams are IP-restricted.

Dave - do you know what size these streamed vids are in MB?

On WiFi, the video is encoded at about 200Kib/s, so you're looking at about 50 megs for an hour long program if I've done my maths right. Adding a filesize indicator is something I'd like to do.

I also plan on adding live streams, and thanks to this thread I've got a head start now I know an RTSP url. If anyone knows the other ones for BBC2, 3, News 24 and so on, those would be rather handy (else I'll just guess).

My twitter is twitter.com/johnsto btw.

 

[johnsto]

On WiFi, the video is encoded at about 200Kib/s, so you're looking at about 50 megs for an hour long program if I've done my maths right. Adding a filesize indicator is something I'd like to do.

Scratch that, I meant 30 mins - for an hour it's closer to 90mb

http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=20...s=org.mozilla:en-GB:official&client=firefox-a

 

[deadite66]

I also plan on adding live streams, and thanks to this thread I've got a head start now I know an RTSP url. If anyone knows the other ones for BBC2, 3, News 24 and so on, those would be rather handy (else I'll just guess).

zip for bbc2, bbc3, bbc4, news and parliament.

 

[AaronL]

Cheers for the info all, I am in the UK FYI, I guess i'll just wait for 1.5 .

Glad I made this thread in the end.

Aaron

P.S Johnno - loved de_dust but always thought it was a tad overrated and a bit unbalanced

 

[johnsto]

zip for bbc2, bbc3, bbc4, news and parliament.

Excellent, thanks!

Thanks to you, live streams are supported in beebPlayer 0.3.1, now on the market.

P.S Johnno - loved de_dust but always thought it was a tad overrated and a bit unbalanced

Hehe thanks, that's fair, never thought it was perfect

 

[davelfc]

is there any reason why i open it with 3G it says this video cannot be played all the time? :'(

i was looking forward to watching Question Time on my phone,

 

[johnsto]

is there any reason why i open it with 3G it says this video cannot be played all the time? :'(

There seem to be problems accessing the iPlayer streams from T-Mobile 3G, not sure why yet. Best bet is to use WiFi if you can for the time being.

 

[cherry]

There seem to be problems accessing the iPlayer streams from T-Mobile 3G, not sure why yet. Best bet is to use WiFi if you can for the time being.

UKRadio V1.0.0 is Android-OnlineRadio-Player for UK Radio stations.
It allows to play most of UKRadio stations.
It also play all bbc radio stations.

 

[kheopsb]

I listen to 1Xtra from the US using BBC iplayer on my mac, if it were truly restricted by region I wouldn't be able to listen to my 1xtra mixes...
I'll give it a try to see if i can stream 1xtra radio shows on my droid

Correct, it's 1.5 only, as 1.5 included various h264 fixes required to decode the iPlayer streams. Also must be in the UK as the iPlayer streams are IP-restricted.



On WiFi, the video is encoded at about 200Kib/s, so you're looking at about 50 megs for an hour long program if I've done my maths right. Adding a filesize indicator is something I'd like to do.

I also plan on adding live streams, and thanks to this thread I've got a head start now I know an RTSP url. If anyone knows the other ones for BBC2, 3, News 24 and so on, those would be rather handy (else I'll just guess).

My twitter is twitter.com/johnsto btw.