So in one word: you choose whether to have 1 911 bug (which can be fixed by MERELY turning GPS off, or tens of major bugs. I can imagine someone whose phone was updated getting it out and OOPS, phone ain't working. Wish it only rebooted as I call 911.
Immediately after updating, many users discover new bugs, not to mention missing applications, and in some cases even bricked phones. Yay, Rogers!
I am on board with your website and all the work you've done towards the Android issues with Rogers, but what you consistently fail to realize is that the MAJORITY of the blame here is to be placed on HTC, not Rogers.
Rogers does not make operating systems, nor do they make operating system updates... all you're doing is scapegoating your frustrations on the easiest target... if HTC had a callcenter you'd probably be going off on them...
It is HTC's fault that the Dream and Magic have the problems they do/did, not Rogers. Rogers, however, has the pleasure of cleaning up the mess.
Did you honestly expect the updates to be flawless? When they were so obviously rushed? And what, please tell, did you expect HTC/Rogers to do? Ignore the 911 issue? So someone, somewhere, could possibly die as a result?
I am on board with your website and all the work you've done towards the Android issues with Rogers, but what you consistently fail to realize is that the MAJORITY of the blame here is to be placed on HTC, not Rogers.
Rogers does not make operating systems, nor do they make operating system updates... all you're doing is scapegoating your frustrations on the easiest target... if HTC had a callcenter you'd probably be going off on them...
It is HTC's fault that the Dream and Magic have the problems they do/did, not Rogers. Rogers, however, has the pleasure of cleaning up the mess.
Did you honestly expect the updates to be flawless? When they were so obviously rushed? And what, please tell, did you expect HTC/Rogers to do? Ignore the 911 issue? So someone, somewhere, could possibly die as a result?
By the way, I notice in another thread that you work for a Rogers Plus store.
I hold Rogers responsible because they either bought in to Android without doing their homework, or they were conned by HTC. Either way, Rogers sold me the phone, not HTC.
Your point?
Regardless of who sold you the phone, the manufacturer produced it, and thusly are to blame for any defects. That's just logic.
You can, however, blame Rogers for how they've handled it, but I don't hear you coming up with any better solutions.
We could say they same thing about each person who bought a Dream or Magic, couldn't we? That we all should have "done our homework" so we wouldn't have ended up with these issues?
None of that changes the fact that HTC provided defective phones.
I'm all for you petitioning for 1.6, but lets be honest, you didn't start your quest because you knew about the 911 bug, you did because you (like myself) learned that the Dream would not be getting 1.6, and were annoyed by that. I, personally, just rooted my phone after I found that out. To each their own, I suppose.
Rogers doesn't have techs who tinker with ROMs, HTC would be the ones to handle that... it's their phone. Rogers doesn't make phones. No matter what Rogers had HTC do, they clearly wouldn't have requested something like: "Oh yeah, can you make it so people can't call 911 when the GPS is on? That would be swell."
One can easily make the comparison because HTC sent out lemons... what's next? You're going to tell me that Rogers is the only company in the world that had defective products in their lineup? As if this Toyota thing wasn't a good enough example. Hmm, yeah, I guess all those dealerships and all those people should have "researched" the accelerator and all the dealerships should have tested each model personally. Oh and clearly Toyota never tested any of the models, just sent them out blindly, just like HTC and Rogers, right??You are saying that we are to blame because we did not do our homework, our research before buying the phone. So, what did Rogers do before getting the phone from HTC and offering them to their customers? Did it research the phone? Did it try it on it's network?
Biased much? What's the point of you working for a Rogers store? Take a good look at what you are saying. This looks like a lot of Rogers propaganda to me.
Nicolas Racine
Like I said before, blame Rogers all you want for how they're handling it, but the defective phones are HTC's doing. Please continue to deny that. It's amusing to read your idiotic excuses.
Your arguments are not logical.
Take the Toyota example. Toyota make the cars, and sell them. Yes, they buy the parts from providers, but the providers already established that it followed Toyota's plans. So Toyota's plans were defective.
Rogers buys the phones from HTC, then sell them to its customers. Two different things entirely. Following your example, HTC could blame the GPS chip provider for the 911 bug. Rogers would be just someone who bought bad merchandise and try to sell it to it's customers.
So HTC's plans were defective? Good. Sounds logical to me, that's all I wanted to hear you say.
What is your complaint exactly? All I'm hearing is "Yes, I agree it is HTC's fault." That's all I care about.
If you could read properly, you'd see that when I originally said "we could blame Rogers customers the same etc etc..." I was making a hypothetical comparison to what the OP was saying about Rogers buying the phones from HTC "without research". But you and I have just handily proved that it wasn't Rogers fault, via your own example. End of conversation.
For the record, I obviously don't think it's our fault for buying HTC phones... please...
I have both the Dream and Magic ffs.
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