Is the Kindle Fire the NookColor upgrade "we" have been wanting?

[Jerry-rigged]

So on that other thread, there were a lot of people wanting an upgraded, duel core Nook Color. The new KF seems to be a nook-beater in most "tick box" comparisons (only thing it lacks is an uSD).

Anyone with a NC planning on ordering a KF? Myself, my NC is doing everything I ask of it, so far. No upgrade fever for me.

 

[2acclaim]

don't see where the Fire has any major benefits over the Nook. Sure the hardware is better but without an SD card slot will make it harder(if not impossible) to mod. It'll also be way too limited to in storage capacity which is why i won't grab an Ipad either.

I've got 3 movies on a 2 gb SD card in my nook. My 16gb is due in tomorrow. I have 'unlimited storage'. That's what makes the Android tablets better in my opinon. Sure you can say some of it bloat and can be deleted and readded. Cruising down the highway though my 12g of songs, 5 gig of apps, e-mails etc. Space gets eaten up pretty quickly.

Do I need all of with me all the time, no, than again, i really don't need a tablet either, nor a smartphone, nor a laptop, etc.

If i'm putting my money into something I want it to do more than what I need for the foreseeable future.

 

[drowe]

From what I've read it is running an "Amazon Enhanced" old version of android and probably won't have the market. Why give up my rooted Nook for that?

 

[Podivin]

From what I've read it is running an "Amazon Enhanced" old version of android and probably won't have the market. Why give up my rooted Nook for that?

+1

 

[Jerry-rigged]

From what I've read it is running an "Amazon Enhanced" old version of android and probably won't have the market. Why give up my rooted Nook for that?

My assumption was that anyone that is running a rooted NC would also plan on rooting the KF. After all, the non-rooted B-N market is pretty lame, right?

 

[chocophile]

The B&N market is W-A-A-Y more lame than the Amazon Appstore, IMHO. If you compare the two stock for stock, the Fire is at least as good as, if not better than the NC, in every category except the already noted lack of an expansion slot. I think B&N is going to have to respond in some way, or watch their sales go through the floor.

Having said that, I like my NC fine. I won't be getting a KF, just to have the latest-greatest-flavor-of-the-month.

 

[KendallParis]

Unless she really raises a stink, (after only playing with a NookColor for two hours, tops) I am going to get one for my Mother. Her needs for a tablet and my needs are completely different, so I think the Fire will be enough for her.

She's more reading different things that she can download on it and playing some of the games that I showed her. I want to read, play games and I have apps that I can actually get work done with on the go.

Now, had I known about this two months ago and never bought the NookColor, I probably would be in a bit of a quandary, because the Fire does look really great.

I do wonder if Amazon's magazine/newspaper selection is going to grow dramatically because compared to B&N, it stinks as of now.

 

[DoAndroidDream?]

No SD card slot if a major fail. Probably no BT either I am guessing.

 

[KendallParis]

I think the SD card for the average user is overrated. You'll be able to download movies and music onto the unit for offline use, so that won't be a problem. I don't think the average user will have a major issue for the occasional load/unload for certain media.

In an article today, Amazon states that you'll be able to hook the Fire up to a PC, so side loading is looking like a possibility, which would be awesome.

 

[colchiro]

from: xda-developers - View Single Post - [USER] CM7 General Discussion thread

Archos 80 G9 > Amazon Fire.
If I were to get another tablet for developing(I'm not) it would probably be the Archos.

 

[KendallParis]

Well! I never!

I don't think I would want or need it to be rooted. My mother wants to be able to install a number of Bibles to assist her while she is teaching every week. Then she gets to play some games???

The only reason why she still leans towards the Nook is because she liked the pictures I used for my wallpapers and wonders if she can put that on the Fire.

I'm going to try to wait until she sees a commercial for it and the NC2 announcement before pulling the plug, but I really don't want to wait around too long and Amazon runs out of their initial run. That would make me mad and it's not even for me.

 

[koopakid08]

Just no... Its basically a nook with a dual core minus anything that matters. No SD slot, only one hardware button, no Bluetooth, no SD boot means you can brick it, list goes on and on

 

[colchiro]

This would have been a nice replacement for the Nook Color: HP Touchpad Go

Now we can offer up the full spec sheet on the TouchPad Go, and it​

 

[2acclaim]

yes but it was killed before it ever saw light of day. Stories though claimed HP was going to produce more tablets even after the discontinuation. Maybe too many left over parts and they need to clean house?

Anyhow I'd have snagged a TP if I had seen the blowout pricing for the 10" of screen goodness. However I don't feel slighted at all with my modded Nook color.

 

[colchiro]

I got a (relatively) good deal on a 1 wk old 16 gb w/ case, screen protector for $200 shipped from a private party for my wife, but my 32 gb NIB was $280 from fleeBay... not much of a bargain considering they bought them for about $149. Still when I found out the CM Nook team was working on Android, I jumped on it.

 

[trankster]

I use mine a lot as a reader, so a big missing for me is ePUb format; the advertised ebook formats are limited to Amazon's proprietary format, PDF, TXT. I never considered Kindle to begin with because I like to have lots of choices for ebook vendors and formats. With exchange email, Netflix, Skype, multiple reader Apps and Google Marketplace, the NC (with CM7 rooting) via SD card is pretty darn hard to beat. My .02 I wish Amazon well, competition is good.

 

[RichSz]

I use mine a lot as a reader, so a big missing for me is ePUb format; the advertised ebook formats are limited to Amazon's proprietary format, PDF, TXT. I never considered Kindle to begin with because I like to have lots of choices for ebook vendors and formats. With exchange email, Netflix, Skype, multiple reader Apps and Google Marketplace, the NC (with CM7 rooting) via SD card is pretty darn hard to beat. My .02 I wish Amazon well, competition is good.

With calibre - E-book management you have just as many choices. It comes down to the reader and not the ecosystem.

Note there is nothing illegal or unethical about converting the format of a legally obtained ebook. Just don't distribute it to anyone.

 

[Mistiq]

It's no secret that I picked up a Touchpad to replace my NC.

How do you feel about having the Touchpad replace your NC?

I'm asking because I was originally planning on getting a NC (and rooting and installing CM8 when it was available) but after the Amazon fire came out, I reconsidered (until I realized that wihout SD storage & 8 GB memory, I couldn't maximize the potential like the NC.)

Then I realized that the Touchpad would be a good investment for about $200 if I could get it, so I was curious about how you feel about your Touchpad compared to your Nook Color?

How is the size compared to the NC? Is it portable enough for you, or do you feel like you should have a smaller tablet?

Okay final question (lol) Would you prefer the Touchpad or the HTC FLyer (Now for $299) as your daily tablet?

Sorry for the wall of text, but I'm excited now that things are finally becoming reasonable.

 

[colchiro]

Good questions.

Many people like a 7" tablet for traveling or keeping in a coat pocket and a larger tablet (~10") for home.

Dalingrin, one of the developers responsible for CyanogenMod (a variation of Android called GingerBread) on the NC, is currently porting it to the HP Touchpad in preparation for the next version of Android, Ice Cream Sandwich (ICS), due in a few months. He has stated that the Touchpad will get ICS, and "maybe" the Nook Color. I'm not sure if this is a time problem or if the Nook is too slow for ICS. Time will tell.

Nook Color:
New: $250, refurbs or used versions available.
Single core cpu. Stock: .8 gHz, capable of 1.3 gHz
7" screen, 1024x600.
Wi-fi only, but can be tethered to a cell phone.
No GPS. GPS location service available via wi-fi only.
Marginal BlueTooth with a range of 12" when it works.
Sdcard slot for external storage or updating. Max 32 gb.
512 mb ram
No microphone or camera
Virtually unbrickable due to ability to boot off the sdcard. Also able to dual boot via sdcard.
Gingerbread (CM7) may be the last version available
Keyboard, mouse, video cam, storage (usb stick) mounting via usb connection


HP Touchpad:
$200-300, depending on source and 16/32 gb (Craigslist, Ebay, Amazon).
Dual core cpu. Stock 1.2 gHz, capable of 1.8 gHz
9.7" screen, 1024x768 (odd size)
Wi-fi only, but can be tethered to a cell phone.
No GPS. GPS location service available via wi-fi only.
Working BlueTooth
No sdcard slot, total storage 16 gb or 32 gb
1024 mb ram
Front facing microphone and 1.3 MP camera intended for video conference (Skype).
Ability to dual/triple/?? boot limited by available (16/32 gb) storage.
Gingerbread with a promise of Ice Cream Sandwich.
Keyboard, mouse, storage (usb stick) mounting via usb connection.


Both have good battery life and nice screens and are similarly priced.

I think the Nook is a mature platform, but it is slower. Dalingrin has stated that the Touchpad is bogged down by webOS and it will be quite fast with Android.

 

[colchiro]

Sorry, missed the HTC Flyer question.

I have no experience with the Flyer, but I think there's a big advantage to having a popular tablet with a good Android development community like the Nook Color or Touchpad.